Future Fights Thread

**firekillex** · 02-05-17, 12:56 AM

3 round scrap i could see brunson trying to lay and pray silva for a win after getting kod by whittaker
but hes just always so aggressive in every fight im not sure he can change that

if he comes up with his arms straight rushing in against silva all anderson needs is one shot.... if ko/tko is +200 for silva ill be on that if brunson decision prop is above that silva prop ill probably go on that in the end, whichever has more value
just really wanna see vintage silva come back being a fan for so long haha

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-05-17, 11:35 PM

I'm a little annoyed that the UFC matched Lombard and Hendricks. The pairing makes sense but I wanted to fade them both. Maybe will play a prop small or take a complete pass here

**firekillex** · 02-06-17, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I'm a little annoyed that the UFC matched Lombard and Hendricks. The pairing makes sense but I wanted to fade them both. Maybe will play a prop small or take a complete pass here

No play for me brotha can't see an edge with either imo , at best I'd play Hendricks for small to see how he can perform without draining his body , but its sketchy

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

No play for me brotha can't see an edge with either imo , at best I'd play Hendricks for small to see how he can perform without draining his body , but its sketchy

I'd probably take Lombard R1 or the under for small and Live Bet Hendricks if he survives. Crazy how far these guys have declined in like 2 years.

**firekillex** · 02-06-17, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I'd probably take Lombard R1 or the under for small and Live Bet Hendricks if he survives. Crazy how far these guys have declined in like 2 years.

Never thought Lombard was that good imo he wasn't fighting the best guys in bellator
but Hendricks fell off one of the worst I've ever seen , he was either juicing or lost all his motivation for the game after a rough couple decisions

just watched the next cards countdown not liking what brunson is saying he's looking to shoot takedowns when silva comes inside and stick on the outside , aka he's gonna try to stall and grind a 3 rounder out

**MMANick** · 02-06-17, 10:34 AM

Guys, is it crazy that I think Cannonier has a real shot to pull off the upset versus Glover on SAT? I'm a huge Glover fan, but Cannonier looked phenomenal versus Cutelba his last time out. He showcased a great chin in that bout and his striking was great. I think he has a real shot to stop Glover here and it's not just because Rumble ran through Glover... Rumble basically does that to everyone now.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by MMANick

Guys, is it crazy that I think Cannonier has a real shot to pull off the upset versus Glover on SAT? I'm a huge Glover fan, but Cannonier looked phenomenal versus Cutelba his last time out. He showcased a great chin in that bout and his striking was great. I think he has a real shot to stop Glover here and it's not just because Rumble ran through Glover... Rumble basically does that to everyone now.

Definitely not crazy. He's got good power and a solid chin. What do we know about his TDD?

**MMANick** · 02-06-17, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Definitely not crazy. He's got good power and a solid chin. What do we know about his TDD?

That's what worries me a bit. If Glover comes in for the TD and not looking to strike, I think he will submit him. It really depends on the odds here, if Cannonier gets over 2 to 1, I can make a case that's damn good value. As it stands now, value is probably on Glover.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-06-17, 02:24 PM

Glover is going to destroy him.....mark my words.......Glover is on another level...people just don't get it

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Definitely not crazy. He's got good power and a solid chin. What do we know about his TDD?

**PaperTrail07** · 02-06-17, 02:25 PM

Calling 1st round KO for Glover Here.....

**PaperTrail07** · 02-06-17, 02:31 PM

2/11/2017 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1302 Glover Teixeira* -165 vs Jared Cannonier
2/11/2017 8:00 PM UFC Fighting 1702 Islam Makhachev* -175 vs Nik Lentz

**PaperTrail07** · 02-06-17, 02:33 PM

Souza ITD seems good as well....How much can boetch take..i mean really....

GIMME a LIne lol....or the point line that will be

-5.5 -225......huge bet......just like the Andrade....

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by MMANick

That's what worries me a bit. If Glover comes in for the TD and not looking to strike, I think he will submit him. It really depends on the odds here, if Cannonier gets over 2 to 1, I can make a case that's damn good value. As it stands now, value is probably on Glover.

It's a no bet for me at this price. Will have to watch more tape but I doubt I'll be huge on this fight

**PaperTrail07** · 02-06-17, 02:40 PM

Hugo--You don't think Glover has a SERIOUS advantage here in everything>?!@......including experience...just think anything -300 or less has Glover all over it.....

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Hugo--You don't think Glover has a SERIOUS advantage here in everything>?!@......including experience...just think anything -300 or less has Glover all over it.....

Hard for me to bet on someone who just got KO'ed brutally and tends to get hurt in fights against an athletic power puncher. But as I said, I've got to look at some more tape.

**MMANick** · 02-06-17, 04:12 PM

I don't think you'll see another fighter drop their hands and allow Cutelaba to swing at them again. Something has to be said for the confidence in his chin and striking after dropping from HW to LHW.

**MMANick** · 02-06-17, 04:13 PM

Paper, I'm with ya on the Jacare play. He should be able to stop Tim very early on... But, what if it gets into the middle of the second and beyond?

**MMANick** · 02-06-17, 05:09 PM

This is what I'm looking at for UFC 208 so far:

Ian McCall -125 -- I know he's been out for quite some time, but he's also been training basically that whole time for fights that were cancelled. He has the experience advantage here and really has only lost to the best of the best. Brooks looks like a nice prospect, but I think he's completely outgunned here.

Wilson Reis ITD or pts prop -- Sasaki came over here with tons of hype, but his striking is laughable and you don't want to grapple with Reis. This is going to be completely one sided.

Anderson Silva +130 -- Complete value play here. If Brunson comes out swinging like he did against Whittaker, Silva is going to make him regret it. I know Brunson is a strong wrestler, but I think Silva really wants to make another run at the title and he's going to be motivated.

Holly Holm +105 -- I think she'll frustrate De Randamie with her movement here. I'm also fairly certain that Holly will have more gas to go 5 rounds. I like her in this spot.

Still looking at a few and there are still quite a few that Im liking for parlay pieces.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by MMANick

I don't think you'll see another fighter drop their hands and allow Cutelaba to swing at them again. Something has to be said for the confidence in his chin and striking after dropping from HW to LHW.

What worries me is that Cutelaba took him down with ease in Round 1 before gassing.

**MMANick** · 02-06-17, 06:35 PM

He's also an accomplished wrestler in his home country.

**Shagdogy** · 02-06-17, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

think i may play anderson tko/ko over brunson been thinking about it for a bit
i dont think brunsons forward style playing into the spiders skillset

Whittaker absolutely tee'd off on Brunson once he felt comfortable he could stop the takedown. If Brunson tries to rush in and telegraph takedowns vs. Silva it will go really poorly for him, unless he lands a power shot. Whittaker's chin had to get him through some tough spots in that fight and I don't know if Silva's can do the same for him at this point. If he manages to move and gets Brunson's timing down to where he can stuff the outside takedowns then Silva can absolutely do what Whittaker did. Brunson has power though, and if it lands Silva may go down. My guess is this fight ends in TKO/KO one way or the other.

**Shagdogy** · 02-06-17, 10:32 PM

It's not a sexy fight, but anyone looking at Phillipe Nover as a live dog? Glenn's takedown D was terrible vs. Dunham. If Nover can take him down he should win pretty easy. On the feet it's a much closer fight.

Is this fight at 145 or 155? If it's 145, Glenn will be cutting way down and Nover is pretty athletic. I just wish he used his offensive wrestling more often.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

It's not a sexy fight, but anyone looking at Phillipe Nover as a live dog? Glenn's takedown D was terrible vs. Dunham. If Nover can take him down he should win pretty easy. On the feet it's a much closer fight.

Is this fight at 145 or 155? If it's 145, Glenn will be cutting way down and Nover is pretty athletic. I just wish he used his offensive wrestling more often.

He seems like he might be live in this spot. I believe it's 145 but that's where Glenn usually fights as far as I know.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-06-17, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Whittaker absolutely tee'd off on Brunson once he felt comfortable he could stop the takedown. If Brunson tries to rush in and telegraph takedowns vs. Silva it will go really poorly for him, unless he lands a power shot. Whittaker's chin had to get him through some tough spots in that fight and I don't know if Silva's can do the same for him at this point. If he manages to move and gets Brunson's timing down to where he can stuff the outside takedowns then Silva can absolutely do what Whittaker did. Brunson has power though, and if it lands Silva may go down. My guess is this fight ends in TKO/KO one way or the other.

^^^

**JIBBBY** · 02-07-17, 12:11 AM

Who do you take in this fight? Meat head kinda sucks, Fedor is hundred years old and his chin is questionably shot? I think you gotta take Meat Head by KO just because he's younger and does have power right?

Bellator 172 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - SAP Center - San Jose, California - Spike TV


Sat 2/18	3001 Fedor Emelianenko	+140	o1½ +165
11:00PM	3002 Matt Mitrione	-160	u1½ -190

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-07-17, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Who do you take in this fight? Meat head kinda sucks, Fedor is hundred years old and his chin is questionably shot? I think you gotta take Meat Head by KO just because he's younger and does have power right?

Bellator 172 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - SAP Center - San Jose, California - Spike TV


Sat 2/18	3001 Fedor Emelianenko	+140	o1½ +165
11:00PM	3002 Matt Mitrione	-160	u1½ -190

Hmm not sure yet. I lean Mitrione though. Fedor showcased a decent chin in his last fight though. He took a TON of punishment.

**firekillex** · 02-07-17, 04:22 AM

Brunson would take down silva with ease imo he's a very underrated wrestler, he just fell in love with his power and early kos. I wasn't heavily leaning silva because I liked the style matchup but from Brunsons recent interviews saying how he's gonna wrestle and take his time it's got my feeling weary... silva is only getting older he's one of my favourite fighters ever but brunson is a beast if he starts landing takedowns 15 minutes isn't to hard to grind out . Would love to see vintage spider get a Ko though,, either gonna play silva ITD or brunson decision for me gotta see where the odds are at

**MMANick** · 02-07-17, 11:14 AM

If Fedor's odds get much higher, he'll be worthy of a play. Meathead got rocked and almost stopped by Oli Thompson his last time out. Fedor can still punch and he's way more well rounded than Meathead. I understand the odds here, but if Fedor gets much higher, he'll be worthy of a play. Either way, I don't see this going the distance.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-07-17, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by MMANick

If Fedor's odds get much higher, he'll be worthy of a play. Meathead got rocked and almost stopped by Oli Thompson his last time out. Fedor can still punch and he's way more well rounded than Meathead. I understand the odds here, but if Fedor gets much higher, he'll be worthy of a play. Either way, I don't see this going the distance.

Didn't Meathead also get dropped by that homeless dude Seumenutafa?

**JIBBBY** · 02-07-17, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

Brunson would take down silva with ease imo he's a very underrated wrestler, he just fell in love with his power and early kos. I wasn't heavily leaning silva because I liked the style matchup but from Brunsons recent interviews saying how he's gonna wrestle and take his time it's got my feeling weary... silva is only getting older he's one of my favourite fighters ever but brunson is a beast if he starts landing takedowns 15 minutes isn't to hard to grind out . Would love to see vintage spider get a Ko though,, either gonna play silva ITD or brunson decision for me gotta see where the odds are at

Young mans sport, Silva's time is running, i think Brunson knocks his head off.. 1st round ko Brunson...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 02-07-17, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Young mans sport, Silva's time is running, i think Brunson knocks his head off.. 1st round ko Brunson...

Tirteen seconds or less?

**PaperTrail07** · 02-07-17, 11:46 AM

I give him a pass on rumble and JJ....not many people throw a punch so hard you fall before your tooth does SCARY LOL

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Hard for me to bet on someone who just got KO'ed brutally and tends to get hurt in fights against an athletic power puncher. But as I said, I've got to look at some more tape.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-07-17, 11:47 AM

Cant see a fight where Souza does not end it.....Elbow drops or a Sub IMO.......Timmy might not be seen again after...

Originally posted by MMANick

Paper, I'm with ya on the Jacare play. He should be able to stop Tim very early on... But, what if it gets into the middle of the second and beyond?

**PaperTrail07** · 02-07-17, 11:48 AM

Cutelaba deserves a little credit......tough MF'er....

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

What worries me is that Cutelaba took him down with ease in Round 1 before gassing.

**MMANick** · 02-07-17, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Didn't Meathead also get dropped by that homeless dude Seumenutafa?

He's extremely hittable.