UFC on FOX: Nurmagomedov vs. Ferguson (April 16, 2016)

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  • Ty$
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    #71
    Originally posted by UncleChael
    Glover almost went to sleep by Bader. You want to be the best you got to beat the best. I like betting dogs. Suga Rashad ain't done yet. Rashad is the homie.
    Word .. Who doesn't like the underdog... I'm jus not sold on this one. Btw Bader got in a good shot then got put down. Glover is tough as they come.
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    • JoshKnows46
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      #72
      Originally posted by UncleChael
      Glover almost went to sleep by Bader. You want to be the best you got to beat the best. I like betting dogs. Suga Rashad ain't done yet. Rashad is the homie.
      Neither guy is the best, both looked like crap in their last outing, glover won but he didn't look his best in the fight, leaning to a no bet, rashad saying his old knees feeling better, and he feels he can get back to enjoying fight, texeria probable a old juicer, but so was jds, and he did fine against fat boy rothshit. I'm leaning to no bet, based on the line, feel it should be around glover -170, think he wins but wouldn't be surprised with a upset by rashad by dec.
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      • JoshKnows46
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        #73
        Line probable doesn't move much, it's a fight you can decide at weigh ins if you want to mess with, I see question marks on both sides. Rashad a little quicker if he's healthy, and has better wrestling, glover has the better sub game and more power, kinda similar in a sense to the Roth jds comparison, exept text is quicker than fat boy, and you have to pay over 2 to 1 to bet him.
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        • JoshKnows46
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          #74
          I'm thinking for that price, I might as well just double down on the thug namajunes at the same price and call it a night...because I'm more confident in her bringing home my money. Or jusr throw machida in a parlay with mighty mouse or someone else. So probable no bet on the straight line for either guy
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          • TheCalculator
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            #75
            I think the smartest bet on that fight is the over.
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            • Ty$
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              #76
              Originally posted by JoshKnows46
              I'm thinking for that price, I might as well just double down on the thug namajunes at the same price and call it a night...because I'm more confident in her bringing home my money. Or jusr throw machida in a parlay with mighty mouse or someone else. So probable no bet on the straight line for either guy

              Rose by DEC ...
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              • PaperTrail07
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                #77
                Machida by decision is just gonna happen right
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                • JoshKnows46
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by TheCalculator
                  I think the smartest bet on that fight is the over.
                  I like it, I'd love it if it was 2.5 instead of 3.5, but they only have 2 stoppage loses between them, both have decent chins.
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                  • PaperTrail07
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                    #79
                    No way hendo catches machida
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                    • Ty$
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                      Machida by decision is just gonna happen right
                      I think machida finishes him ... Prolly fast
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                      • JoshKnows46
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                        Machida by decision is just gonna happen right
                        I'm thinking 2nd round finish, Hendo runs his face into something, thing is Hendo never gets knocked out cold, machida gonna have to follow up with some gnp or choke.
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                        • Ty$
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                          I'm thinking 2nd round finish, Hendo runs his face into something, thing is Hendo never gets knocked out cold, machida gonna have to follow up with some gnp or choke.
                          👍🏻🤑.
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                          • PaperTrail07
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                            #83
                            I doubt machida will be that aggressive
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                            • PaperTrail07
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                              #84
                              Fights with the don't lose mentality
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                #85
                                Does he have the ability to _ absolutely. I think he will be a little Silva _ish this fight
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                                • Ty$
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                  I doubt machida will be that aggressive

                                  He doesn't have to be Hendo will be. Machida counters and bam it's over.
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                                  • Ty$
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                                    #87
                                    Hendos chin is gone.
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                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                      #88
                                      Good point $$$$
                                      Originally posted by Ty$
                                      He doesn't have to be Hendo will be. Machida counters and bam it's over.
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                                      • JoshKnows46
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        Does he have the ability to _ absolutely. I think he will be a little Silva _ish this fight
                                        Machida packs a punch, but he has the ability to make it boring....Hendo doesn't have that granite chin anymore, if you've watched him recently, it's getting bad for him, he should have retired a few fights ago, them having fought before, I think machida opens up and finishes in the 2nd, I bet machida with mighty mouse parlay which feels like a lock, and two smaller plays on starts 2nd round and Machida ko in the 2nd.
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                                        • Ty$
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                                          #90
                                          Also Cezar Ferreria will get KTFO by Bamgbose
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                                          • Ty$
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                            Machida packs a punch, but he has the ability to make it boring....Hendo doesn't have that granite chin anymore, if you've watched him recently, it's getting bad for him, he should have retired a few fights ago, them having fought before, I think machida opens up and finishes in the 2nd, I bet machida with mighty mouse parlay which feels like a lock, and two smaller plays on starts 2nd round and Machida ko in the 2nd.

                                            I won't call the round I'll jus say machida ITD ... If it's round 1 though won't surprise me 😎
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                                            • Ty$
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                                              #92
                                              Khabib vs Darrell Horcher? Will khabib finish him?
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                                              • JoshKnows46
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                Good point $$$$
                                                If ur leaning to it making the distance, I'd just go with starts 2nd round, it's only at -133
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                                                • PaperTrail07
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                                                  #94
                                                  Lol for sure. Hard to Call the round. The _feel out process could be 1min or 1 round. Hendo at some point. Will get caught walking in
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                                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Ty$
                                                    I won't call the round I'll jus say machida ITD ... If it's round 1 though won't surprise me 
                                                    I agree wouldn't surprise me either, but lyoto is a slow starter, and he likes to find his range, hendo still has power for him to consider, late 1st wouldn't surprise me. Lyoto plus 450 sure looks good in the 2nd though.
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                      #96
                                                      Not bad at all.
                                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                      If ur leaning to it making the distance, I'd just go with starts 2nd round, it's only at -133
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                        #97
                                                        Machida-350. Should be -575 imo. Thinking it will end -450ish
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                                                        • JoshKnows46
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Ty$
                                                          Rose by DEC ...
                                                          You could be right, because rose has talked about not joining in to Torres gameplan and chasing her, but being more patient in this fight..straight bet is the best bet, because the thug truly has all 3 paths to victory, she generates decent power for her size, great techique, punches like a man would. And her ground game is much better,she's all around better, there's still plenty value to be had even at the current line of 225, but I put a small bet on sub, because both women have been wrestling more lately in fights and I feel that namajunes is world's better there and can sub her from top or bottom. If it stays standing, your dec will have a better chance, but I have reason to believe it wont. I wouldn't make dec your base bet is what I'm saying.
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                                                          • JoshKnows46
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                            Not bad at all.
                                                            I think that's a great number, when I was looking for it, I was think it would be -190 -200, if only based on their last fight
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                                                            • plekz
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                              You can't say ferguson will never be champion because you don't even know who will be champion by the time he gets a title shot, that's just a stupid statement, he's young, he will be a champion one day.
                                                              Hey baldie, Ferguson is 32 when the fck did 32 become ''young'' in the lower weightclasses of mma? Looking at general trajectory of his weightclass he's around his peak right now and after this he'll start moving in a downward trajectory instead.

                                                              And Ferguson trying to grapple with multiple times sambo worldchamp Khabib? That would not have been a good night at all for Ferguson.
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                                                              • UncleChael
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Ty$
                                                                Word .. Who doesn't like the underdog... I'm jus not sold on this one. Btw Bader got in a good shot then got put down. Glover is tough as they come.
                                                                They switch from 3 rounds to 5, I would also think it would favour the smaller guy, if anything? I also never seen anyone smash Chael Sonnen the way Rashad Evans did.
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                                                                • Ty$
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                                  You could be right, because rose has talked about not joining in to Torres gameplan and chasing her, but being more patient in this fight..straight bet is the best bet, because the thug truly has all 3 paths to victory, she generates decent power for her size, great techique, punches like a man would. And her ground game is much better,she's all around better, there's still plenty value to be had even at the current line of 225, but I put a small bet on sub, because both women have been wrestling more lately in fights and I feel that namajunes is world's better there and can sub her from top or bottom. If it stays standing, your dec will have a better chance, but I have reason to believe it wont. I wouldn't make dec your base bet is what I'm saying.


                                                                  I feel this DEC could go either way... Torres did win the first time pretty convincingly. This might even be a no bet for me idfk.
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                                                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by plekz
                                                                    Hey baldie, Ferguson is 32 when the fck did 32 become ''young'' in the lower weightclasses of mma? Looking at general trajectory of his weightclass he's around his peak right now and after this he'll start moving in a downward trajectory instead.

                                                                    And Ferguson trying to grapple with multiple times worldchamp Khabib? That would not have been a good night at all for Ferguson.

                                                                    32, fuk time flys, muthafucka don't move like he's 32, I was thinking 26 27, I didn't look it up. On that night, kabib had no chance, I'm not gonna break down why, but know on that night he had no chance, well never know cus that night never happen, but we'll get a idea when they fight, I'll just say ferguson isn't the fight you want on your first night back on the job lol I would have made a fuckin killing with the prices on props I had. You've never been right about anything ever, so Ill stick with my opinion lol you've lost ever single bet you've commented on, stick to ur day job kid.
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                                                                    • JoshKnows46
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                      They switch from 3 rounds to 5, I would also think it would favour the smaller guy, if anything? I also never seen anyone smash Chael Sonnen the way Rashad Evans did.
                                                                      I don't think it helps anyone in the fight, neither guy gasses In fights. Just makes it harder for rashad to survive another 10 minutes to possibly pick up a dec. I think if your betting Rashid you can probable just play the dec prop if it's a good amount better then the straight wager.
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                                                                      • plekz
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                                        You've never been right about anything ever
                                                                        You should do your research then.
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