JoshKnows Ufc 196: Mcgregor vs Diaz

**GoodSun** · 02-29-16, 12:42 PM

liked holly aswell.

really like your prop setup, lets get it.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 12:59 PM

Cant hate on that Plus $ one bit-esp considering the toughness of tate...

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Holm finishes in 3rd round +875 $100
Holm finishes in 4th round +1300 $150
Holm finishes in 5th round +1900 $150
Nunes +100/-155 $600
Latifi -150/-210/-190 $1600

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kPrmjTSiqBs

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 01:00 PM

Thoughts on Taleb/Silva....Will silva to too fast for him?

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 01:02 PM

Love these bets to start
MMA Fighting
Selection : G. Villante/I. Latifi 3/5/2016 7:00PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ -115 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : N. Taleb/E. Silva 3/5/2016 5:00PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ -150 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : C. Skelly 3/5/2016 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -145 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : J. Erosa 3/5/2016 3:30PM - (PST) Money Line -225 for Game

**mirinquads** · 02-29-16, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Love these bets to start
MMA Fighting
Selection : G. Villante/I. Latifi 3/5/2016 7:00PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ -115 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : N. Taleb/E. Silva 3/5/2016 5:00PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ -150 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : C. Skelly 3/5/2016 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -145 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : J. Erosa 3/5/2016 3:30PM - (PST) Money Line -225 for Game

Over in Villante/Latifi, why?

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 01:47 PM

Dont feel Latifi will land the early KO--Villante is better than that.....after that..i expect them to tie up and watch the pace SLOW way way down...After the first 2:30 it should be a cruise..

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Thoughts on Taleb/Silva....Will silva to too fast for him?

I like taleb at plus money, he just needs to make it out the first round, maybe I'll hedge with silva by sub or the 1st round prop, or maybe I'll just wait to bet taleb live after the 1st. taleb by dec possibly. Silva's off the roids.

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Love these bets to start
MMA Fighting
Selection : G. Villante/I. Latifi 3/5/2016 7:00PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ -115 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : N. Taleb/E. Silva 3/5/2016 5:00PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ -150 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : C. Skelly 3/5/2016 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -145 for Game

MMA Fighting
Selection : J. Erosa 3/5/2016 3:30PM - (PST) Money Line -225 for Game

These look good, you probable hit 3 outta 4, or 4 outta 4.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 02:40 PM

Yeah -I am just not sure on this fight.....If he can't get silva down I see him winning a decision...prop 29-28...

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

I like taleb at plus money, he just needs to make it out the first round, maybe I'll hedge with silva by sub or the 1st round prop, or maybe I'll just wait to bet taleb live after the 1st. taleb by dec possibly. Silva's off the roids.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 02:41 PM

Thats the plan..Loving the Silva/Taleb over.....

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

These look good, you probable hit 3 outta 4, or 4 outta 4.

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Yeah -I am just not sure on this fight.....If he can't get silva down I see him winning a decision...prop 29-28...

Silva gasses after the first few minutes, and taleb gameplan is most likely to get him to the ground, I believe after the 1st taleb will be able to do whatever he wills, with standup and wrestling, both are tough guys, and it should sail over 1.5 rounds. I'm intrested to see if Silva's in better Shape at the weigh ins.

**mirinquads** · 02-29-16, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Dont feel Latifi will land the early KO--Villante is better than that.....after that..i expect them to tie up and watch the pace SLOW way way down...After the first 2:30 it should be a cruise..

Both guys could finish each other in the first, and Villante is very hard to take down. Not saying I hate the bet, just not seeing the value, juiced line even.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 03:14 PM

totally agree....if he is in bad shape..he will be too slow in rounds 2-3....tends to pull guard when tired to ranther than try to get up....round 1 he will try to get up im sure....

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Silva gasses after the first few minutes, and taleb gameplan is most likely to get him to the ground, I believe after the 1st taleb will be able to do whatever he wills, with standup and wrestling, both are tough guys, and it should sail over 1.5 rounds. I'm intrested to see if Silva's in better Shape at the weigh ins.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 03:16 PM

True....but I think the gameplan for GV will be to avoid the first 2 minutes and figure out the distance....the power/skill on both sides will have them both tentative IMO....guess we will see.....I dont see GV trying anything for alteast 3 minutes...nothing with major intent....

Originally posted by mirinquads

Both guys could finish each other in the first, and Villante is very hard to take down. Not saying I hate the bet, just not seeing the value, juiced line even.

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 03:16 PM

totally agree----SAIL over the 1.5 ...no matter who wins the fight....

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

totally agree....if he is in bad shape..he will be too slow in rounds 2-3....tends to pull guard when tired to ranther than try to get up....round 1 he will try to get up im sure....

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Both guys could finish each other in the first, and Villante is very hard to take down. Not saying I hate the bet, just not seeing the value, juiced line even.

You would think that line would be plus money, or eventually be plus money. Kinda strange, maybe he's on to something. I expected the Nunez line to be much higher as well, was thinking it would open -300

**PaperTrail07** · 02-29-16, 03:23 PM

That over moved to -120......---yeah that nunes line has me weirded out lol...GV has more skills....wont get caught early...should weather the storm and even possibly win the decision.......even if he does lose...i see Latifi landing the takedown and GV fighting it off for 2-3 minutes....as long as they dont stand it up super quick........should be $$...

**AliMMA** · 02-29-16, 05:42 PM

Sanchez, Silva, mcgregor $20 to get $315 enhanced odds!!

Thoughts guys?!

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by AliMMA

Sanchez, Silva, mcgregor $20 to get $315 enhanced odds!!

Thoughts guys?!

What would u get for mcgregor nunes latifi, do that instead...I'll most likely be against both Sanchez and silva.

**AliMMA** · 02-29-16, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

What would u get for mcgregor nunes latifi, do that instead...I'll most likely be against both Sanchez and silva.

Much less unfortunately!!

as they are enhanced odds the sports book I use is offering!

but you never know they had Bisping, Pickett and Breese for +900!!

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by AliMMA

Much less unfortunately!!

as they are enhanced odds the sports book I use is offering!

but you never know they had Bisping, Pickett and Breese for +900!!

Doesn't hurt to give it a shot, Sanchez gets alot of gift decs, and Silva's dangerious in the first round, plus he looks in slightly better shape this time. It's def possible. Why do they give enhanced odds just on certain fighters, and what book is it.

**JIBBBY** · 02-29-16, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

I'll most likely be against both Sanchez and silva.

Agreed.. Thinking Taleb by decision myself..

Jim Miller may have enough left in the tank to out point Diego Sanchez and keep the fight standing.. That might go to decision too.. Both of those guys are tough as nails..

Diego Sanchez does hold the wrestling and cardio advantage over Jim Miller and that worries me a bit though in regards to picking a straight up winner loser in that fight...

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Agreed.. Thinking Taleb by decision myself.. Jim Miller may have enough left in the tank to out point Diego Sanchez and keep the fight standing.. That might go to decision too.. Both of those guys are tough as nails..

Diego Sanchez does hold the wrestling advantage over Jim Miller and worries me a bit though..

Yep taleb by dec, nothing big, but gonna put a little on it. And Jim miller is better everywhere, only worry is Sanchez has the better gas tank and seems judges love his style of fighting, maybe I'll throw a small hedge on Sanchez 3rd round finish for 25 50 bucks, miller fades, and Sanchez probable gets fired up in the 3rd once he's down 2 rounds, like he usually does.

**JIBBBY** · 02-29-16, 08:01 PM

^^ I edited my above post while you were typing yours.. Lol.. Cardio is a concern with Miller in late round for sure... Spot on Josh, we thinking the same..

**AliMMA** · 02-29-16, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Doesn't hurt to give it a shot, Sanchez gets alot of gift decs, and Silva's dangerious in the first round, plus he looks in slightly better shape this time. It's def possible. Why do they give enhanced odds just on certain fighters, and what book is it.

The book is called Coral it's a UK betting book, well on each event they have 3 fighters, usually two favourites and an underdog and you get enhanced odds for the parlay!

**JoshKnows46** · 02-29-16, 11:02 PM

Ufc 196 embedded....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbM8rlVVuoY

**TPowell** · 03-01-16, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Yep taleb by dec, nothing big, but gonna put a little on it. And Jim miller is better everywhere, only worry is Sanchez has the better gas tank and seems judges love his style of fighting, maybe I'll throw a small hedge on Sanchez 3rd round finish for 25 50 bucks, miller fades, and Sanchez probable gets fired up in the 3rd once he's down 2 rounds, like he usually does.

Why not take Miller prefight and then Sanchez live after the 1st or 2nd. Miller is the much better fighter here. Sanchez has to either land something crazy or get going when Miller tires

**JoshKnows46** · 03-01-16, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

Why not take Miller prefight and then Sanchez live after the 1st or 2nd. Miller is the much better fighter here. Sanchez has to either land something crazy or get going when Miller tires

I will, but waiting for miller line to go down more, like it now, but bets will continue to flow in on sanchez, he's very well loved, by me included, no hurry to get a bet in....will also probable bet Sanchez after 2nd live if it's remotely close.

**JoshKnows46** · 03-01-16, 01:28 AM

Vitor Miranda inside the distance -120/-130/-140 to win $300
Vitor Miranda -300 Risking $3000
Taleb by dec +325 Risking $100
Taleb by dec +300 Risking $50
Nunes -155 Risking $600 more
Corey Anderson by dec -105/-120/-130 to win $300

**JoshKnows46** · 03-01-16, 03:42 AM

Miranda/guim under 2.5 +110 $100
Miranda/guim fight doesn't go the distance -120 $120
Teruto Ishihara +200 $600

**Vaughany** · 03-01-16, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

Why not take Miller prefight and then Sanchez live after the 1st or 2nd. Miller is the much better fighter here. Sanchez has to either land something crazy or get going when Miller tires

because there wont be live betting as its fightpass

**Vaughany** · 03-01-16, 04:12 AM

Erik Silva isnt training with bums in Brazil anymore, he's at Kings working with Machida, RDA, Cordeiro and co. IF he loses to Nordine friggin Taleb he may as well retire

**Ultimatemeatball** · 03-01-16, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Erik Silva isnt training with bums in Brazil anymore, he's at Kings working with Machida, RDA, Cordeiro and co. IF he loses to Nordine friggin Taleb he may as well retire

i think at this point in his career he realizes what's on the line. The clock is ticking.

**Ultimatemeatball** · 03-01-16, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Ufc 196 embedded....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbM8rlVVuoY

just watched the embedded. It's as if Diaz doesn't exist.