UFC Fight Night: Holloway vs. Oliveira (August 23, 2015)

**UncleChael** · 08-22-15, 07:02 PM

Who is Elias Silverio, and Frankie Perez?

**GoBlue77** · 08-23-15, 01:10 AM

Moroz
Magny
Cote

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 08-23-15, 02:02 AM

check out that big cross Laprise is wearing, that guy really loves the lord.

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 02:28 AM

Pending8/23/15 6:00pm UFC Fighting 2202 Daniel Jolly +415* <small>vs</small> Misha Cirkunov

1st fight of the card I'm thinking dog for small - Does the undefeated Daniel Jolly at 5-0 have a chance in this one?.. Dude went the distance and won in a 5 rounder recently so he probably has a decent gas tank... Seems kinda well rounded, durable.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Daniel-Jolly-83243

Facing a more experienced and probably stronger wrestler in this Xtreme Courture trained dude Misha.... Chick name.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Misha-Cirkunov-59197

Thoughts fellas? Both making UFC debuts.. Jolly is undefeated so you really never know is my thinking... Probably a long shot but those odds are ripe..

Misha in action -

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by GoBlue77

Moroz
Magny
Cote

I'm on those 3 as well..... GL!!! Get this please...

**bjpenn85** · 08-23-15, 07:47 AM

Do anyone have the link to the igor pokrajac vs de lima fight?

**Kermit** · 08-23-15, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

check out that big cross Laprise is wearing, that guy really loves the lord.

Either that or he is ready for a vampire outbreak.

**BIGDAY** · 08-23-15, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I'm on those 3 as well..... GL!!! Get this please...

Jibby... With the long action withdraw, it seems like you have a wager going in every fight whether it's strait or prop.

Jibbs, do you even know how much action you have on tonight's card? Or will you just check your balance in the am and call it a good card or bad?

GL tonight.

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Jibby... With the long action withdraw, it seems like you have a wager going in every fight whether it's strait or prop.

Jibbs, do you even know how much action you have on tonight's card? Or will you just check your balance in the am and call it a good card or bad?

GL tonight.

I've bet every fight on every UFC card for years and years. I need to entertained while watching the live fights right? Got action?

lol...

In all seriousness that's how I roll.. I bet evenly for the most part and calculate my bets and amounts.. I look and read into every match up carefully going in.. I had to cover the events for my job for years and it just stuck with me.. My goal is always to win the events in the end and yes I know my action pending for most part during the fights.. In the end it usually works out for me.. I don't bet the field in other sports only in MMA..

System of play - I'll bet slightly more on the fights, props and O/U's that I really like, and less on the ones I don't.. Bet the dogs straight mostly and parlay up the heavy favorites in 2 or 3 teamers to even out the losses when they happen... I have been known to chase a bit in the last 2 fights on a card if I'm down money in attempt to win or break even for that event.. Load up on one fight I think will be a lock at times also..

That's how I roll bigday with the MMA gambling.. If it works don't fix it so the saying goes..
Keep winning Bigday as I like your picks most of the time. GL

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 12:17 PM

My picks and $3 lotto ticket gents in the 12 teamer below.. Get that cheddar people, GL everyone!!!

$3.00	$56,633.96	Pending	12 Team Parlay
				Pending	8/23/15 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Max Holloway -235* <small>vs</small> Charles Oliveira
				Pending	8/23/15 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1101 Neil Magny +168* <small>vs</small> Erick Silva
				Pending	8/23/15 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Patrick Cote +115* <small>vs</small> Josh Burkman
				Pending	8/23/15 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Francisco Trinaldo +295* <small>vs</small> Chad Laprise
				Pending	8/23/15 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1401 Tony Sims +195* <small>vs</small> Olivier Aubin-Mercier
				Pending	8/23/15 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1501 Maryna Moroz -215* <small>vs</small> Valerie Letourneau
				Pending	8/23/15 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Felipe Arantes -225* <small>vs</small> Yves Jabouin
				Pending	8/23/15 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Marcos Rogerio de Lima -170* <small>vs</small> Nikita Krylov
				Pending	8/23/15 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1902 Sam Stout +115* <small>vs</small> Frankie Perez
				Pending	8/23/15 6:30pm UFC Fighting 2002 Chris Beal -165* <small>vs</small> Chris Kelades
				Pending	8/23/15 6:00pm UFC Fighting 2102 Shane Campbell +230* <small>vs</small> Elias Silverio
				Pending	8/23/15 6:00pm UFC Fighting 2202 Daniel Jolly +415* <small>vs</small> Misha Cirkunov

**BIGDAY** · 08-23-15, 12:35 PM

It's FIGHT NIGHT

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

check out that big cross Laprise is wearing, that guy really loves the lord.

If I need an exorcism I'm calling this guy..

**TPowell** · 08-23-15, 03:02 PM

Stout is a very solid pick IMO. At even money you get the much better technical striker with experience. Frankie Perez is still green on his feet and while he MAY have some power, he'll be hard pressed to use it. Stout just has to stay on his feet and avoid the sub game of Perez. I think Stout gets an easy decision here IMO. Maybe not easy looks wise but we are in Canada and if he doesn't get tapped, he'll survive

**TPowell** · 08-23-15, 03:05 PM

Last 4 fights on the card, I will be on the dogs. I think Magny keeps Silva at range and frustrates him. Maybe KO's him but def outpoints him. Lets face it, Erick Silva isn't Demian Meia on the ground, not even close. Trinaldo is a solid fighter and this fight should be a good one. My only concern is this fight def hits the judges and we are in Canada. As for the main event, I still can't get the image of McGregor holding Holloway down on a torn ACL for an entire round. I think Oliveria surprised with a sub or grounds down the great cardio that Holloway has. The old adage is that a wrestler is easily worn down striking and vice versa

**TPowell** · 08-23-15, 03:12 PM

do people realize that Jobouin's only lost to freak Almeida, Wineland, and Pickett? Arantes hasn't faced anywhere near the competition, is making the drop to 135, and is very sloppy technically on the feet

**PaperTrail07** · 08-23-15, 04:25 PM

Agree Powell _ I'm w ya

**PaperTrail07** · 08-23-15, 04:25 PM

However. Silva will roll Magny. End him w elbows

**Sanity Check** · 08-23-15, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Do anyone have the link to the igor pokrajac vs de lima fight?

http://mmashare.com.2112112.net/f1-f38/marcos-rogerio-de-lima-vs-igor-pokrajac-t78172.html#p1450340

**Sanity Check** · 08-23-15, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

do people realize that Jobouin's only lost to freak Almeida, Wineland, and Pickett? Arantes hasn't faced anywhere near the competition, is making the drop to 135, and is very sloppy technically on the feet

On the flip side, 135 is a much shallower division than 145 is.

Arantes last fight at 145 was against 5 foot 11 Andre Fili. Arantes did well, but Fili the bigger man more or less just overpowered him.

Thomas Almeida is Arantes' training partner also, which could be a bit strange for Jabouin as he'll see the last person to TKO him giving Arantes' instructions in the corner.

And Jabouin is getting up there in age. He's 35 or 36. Unless he's Fabricio Werdum's distant cousin who is en route to winning a title when he reaches 37, his fighting days could be nearing their end.

**bjpenn85** · 08-23-15, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

http://mmashare.com.2112112.net/f1-f....html#p1450340

thanks man

**TPowell** · 08-23-15, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

On the flip side, 135 is a much shallower division than 145 is.

Arantes last fight at 145 was against 5 foot 11 Andre Fili. Arantes did well, but Fili the bigger man more or less just overpowered him.

Thomas Almeida is Arantes' training partner also, which could be a bit strange for Jabouin as he'll see the last person to TKO him giving Arantes' instructions in the corner.

And Jabouin is getting up there in age. He's 35 or 36. Unless he's Fabricio Werdum's distant cousin who is en route to winning a title when he reaches 37, his fighting days could be nearing their end.

I just don't mind betting the lighter guys when they get older. 135 is certainly shallower than 145 but Arantes still has to get used to the cut in theory and he didn't face any top talent at 145 anyway. Almeida may be an edge, but you have to remember that Almedia would finish Arantes without breaking a sweat. How much of what Almedia says, Arantes can actually do is what matters.

**Sanity Check** · 08-23-15, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Stout is a very solid pick IMO. At even money you get the much better technical striker with experience. Frankie Perez is still green on his feet and while he MAY have some power, he'll be hard pressed to use it. Stout just has to stay on his feet and avoid the sub game of Perez. I think Stout gets an easy decision here IMO. Maybe not easy looks wise but we are in Canada and if he doesn't get tapped, he'll survive

Sam Stout looked the best he has ever been before Ross Pearson dropped him with that left hook.

I think you're definitely right in that Stout could be undervalued and should possibly be the favorite.

Originally posted by TPowell

As for the main event, I still can't get the image of McGregor holding Holloway down on a torn ACL for an entire round. I think Oliveria surprised with a sub or grounds down the great cardio that Holloway has. The old adage is that a wrestler is easily worn down striking and vice versa

Holloway could be moving enough that Oliveira will never get a hold of him to try for a takedown or guard pull. Holloway could be close to a title shot, or a fight with a top 5'er like a Frankie Edgar or Chad Mendes. Excited to see him fight.

**TPowell** · 08-23-15, 04:47 PM

I REALLY love this card. Here are my highlights

Magny
Stout
De Lima
Sims/Aubin Mercier DOES NOT go 3 rounds (-115)

**TPowell** · 08-23-15, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

Sam Stout looked the best he has ever been before Ross Pearson dropped him with that left hook.

I think you're definitely right in that Stout could be undervalued and should possibly be the favorite.

Holloway could be moving enough that Oliveira will never get a hold of him to try for a takedown or guard pull. Holloway could be close to a title shot, or a fight with a top 5'er like a Frankie Edgar or Chad Mendes. Excited to see him fight.

if Edgar fights again before getting a title shot, he should immediately get to Dana White and do what he does. Pepper him with jabs, land some nice double legs, and wait to have his arm raised. Seriously though, Edgar would starch EVERYONE at FW outside of maybe Aldo, Mendes, and Conor. I happen to think he's the worst matchup in the weight class for Conor.

**UncleChael** · 08-23-15, 04:50 PM

Lima, Stout, Moroz, Laprise, Silva, and Holloway ITD. Good day, boy's.

**KingHawkins** · 08-23-15, 04:51 PM

10 minutes away. First fight looks like a fun one to watch. I am leaning U 1.5 +127 and fight doesn't go distance to start a parlay

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 04:58 PM

It's fight Time!!!!

Drink and computer in hand, ready to roll with this event!!!! Let's do this!!

Going with some early long shot dogs in the first 2 fights.. Hoping one will stick at worst.. $50 bucks a pop on each

...

**Sanity Check** · 08-23-15, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

if Edgar fights again before getting a title shot, he should immediately get to Dana White and do what he does. Pepper him with jabs, land some nice double legs, and wait to have his arm raised. Seriously though, Edgar would starch EVERYONE at FW outside of maybe Aldo, Mendes, and Conor. I happen to think he's the worst matchup in the weight class for Conor.

Max Holloway is 5'11.

Frankie Edgar had trouble with Bendo and Bendo is only 5'9 or something like that.

AFAIK, Edgar doesn't cut weight when he fights. If Frankie doesn't get his takedown a lot of the bigger guys are 145 could beat him standing if only because Edgar is giving up so much reach.

**KingHawkins** · 08-23-15, 05:00 PM

On the favorite in the first for me, too, although I am not happy about it. Two beasts here

**shabang** · 08-23-15, 05:02 PM

gL all

**KingHawkins** · 08-23-15, 05:05 PM

After a previous event, a guy was on here and posted about the MMA chat room at Nitrogen Sports, and that they had good streams for the events. Well my streams right now seem to have no audio. Did anyone ever find that chatroom, and/or more private streams? I perused the Nitrogen site a little bit but couldn't find the chatroom

**KingHawkins** · 08-23-15, 05:08 PM

well I found a good stream at FirstRow, but yeah still interested in that chatroom if anyone has the details.

**KingHawkins** · 08-23-15, 05:14 PM

Knocked him the penetrate out

**JIBBBY** · 08-23-15, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by KingHawkins

On the favorite in the first for me, too, although I am not happy about it. Two beasts here

Good call..

**spurginobili** · 08-23-15, 05:16 PM

Under works