UFC 186: Johnson vs. Horiguchi (April 25, 2015)

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  • nanderson1134
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    • 08-07-11
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    #36
    Can't believe rampage is out!
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    • plekz
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      • 07-28-13
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      #37
      pettis had a very glaring possible weakness though, do tell where dj's would be.
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      • JIBBBY
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        • 12-10-09
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        #38
        Event write up slide show, questions and predictions -

        BR - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...g-into-ufc-186

        CombatPress not released yet...
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        • JIBBBY
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          • 12-10-09
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          #39
          CP - EVENT review and picks.. - http://combatpress.com/2015/04/toe-t...d-predictions/


          Finding this card to be very favorite heavy from top to bottom.. About the only dog play I see worth trying is CB Holloway.. Maybe Jessica Rokacsy as well.. Other then that it's favorite after favorite that should win in my opinion and of the opinion of many event writers... May be a 2 team parlay heavy betting card for this guy...
          Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-20-15, 06:10 PM.
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          • JIBBBY
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            • 12-10-09
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            #40
            Posted on another betting forum by me -

            I think Chris Clements will come up a bit short because the dude is almost 40 years old and he’s fighting a guy in Taleb that is pretty durable and will probably just wear him out and out work him in the end if he can stay conscious and weather the early storm...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chris-Clements-13469


            If you do go with Chris Clements as the dog play wait for the KO prop to come out for better value.. 11 Ko’s, 0 submissions and only 1 decision is Chris Clements.. I think his only pathway to victory would be by way of KO early on..


            This prop is out on Clements for value now if you are impatient and can't wait for the KO prop –

            1905 Clements wins inside distance +426*
            Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-20-15, 10:47 PM.
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            • JIBBBY
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              #41
              Originally posted by nanderson1134
              Can't believe rampage is out!
              He's out because he got greedy and broke contract because he saw dollar signs.. A stand up fighter in Maldonaldo that he could handle and a much bigger payday to come in the next UFC fight after that..

              Is a shame though...

              Bellator owns his fighting rights per contract and the UFC/Zuffa boys as always try to break the rules and monopolize.. Temptation of a big Zuffa pay day was just to great for Rampage. It's gonna ultimately cost him in the end and Bellator as well unfortunately.

              If I never see Rampage fight again I will be cool with that.. He should go back to Bellator with his tail between his legs and beg for forgiveness.. He could actually hold a title belt in Bellator for a change and fight bums for easy smaller pay days for a short while.... Build his legacy in Bellator further, finish out his contract with Bellator as champ and then sign and negotiate for big with Zuffa then after..

              Dude needs to keep his word, stay out of the legal courts and fight in Bellator or just retire and go broke!!!...
              Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-20-15, 11:04 PM.
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              • CaptChaos145
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                • 04-03-14
                • 588

                #42
                my picks:

                Small on CB
                Big on Kaufman - remember she beat Davis twice already and she"s pissed all these other girls are jumping her.
                Medium on Cote
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                • Unwritten Law
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                  • 10-31-13
                  • 2532

                  #43
                  Kaufmann and Davis should hit the over 2.5 again. First meeting also want to the scorecards.
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                  • JIBBBY
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                    • 12-10-09
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Unwritten Law
                    Kaufmann and Davis should hit the over 2.5 again. First meeting also want to the scorecards.
                    Yep, they fought twice already, the first fight years ago went into the 3rd round before Sara Dropped Davis.. The second fight went to decision with Sara Kaufman winning again.. Sara Kaufmann should go 3-3 for the clean sweep. Probably goes to decision as Davis has improved enough to make this a really close fight this last go around.. .http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Sarah-Kaufman-16524

                    Trying the Kuafman wins by 3 round decision myself for a small 50 bucks at positive odds -


                    $55.00 $59.95 Pending 4/25/15 9:00pm Props Fighting 1611 Kaufman wins by 3 round decision +109* <small>vs</small> Not Kaufman by 3 round decision
                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-21-15, 12:02 PM.
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                    • mirinquads
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                      • 04-22-13
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                      #45
                      Jibby what happened to your theory of it being hard for fighters to beat each other multiple times!??! I bet 30% bankroll on Davis using your theory, where you just trolling me? You grotesque seinfeld-looking bastard
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        • 12-10-09
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by mirinquads
                        Jibby what happened to your theory of it being hard for fighters to beat each other multiple times!??! I bet 30% bankroll on Davis using your theory, where you just trolling me? You grotesque seinfeld-looking bastard
                        Theory still stands when it's the first rematch.. If it's the 3rd fight the theory goes right out the window as it then usually becomes a one sided affair like when Rich Franklin fought Anderson Silva 3 times and got worked..

                        Sara Kaufman beat her twice already and she should hit the trifecta for the clean sweep!!! Good luck with your 30% bank roll bet Miri as you should watch it burn up...

                        Hey but the first 2 fights were reasonably close so you never know? Then again Sara is still just 29 years old and still in her MMA prime. She's the stronger girl of the two and that's tough to bet against.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Sarah-Kaufman-16524
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                        • Hollafront
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                          • 02-09-15
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                          #47
                          Who's the best 2 to parlay DJ with? Candidates are Mercier, Laprise and Almeida.
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                          • plekz
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                            • 07-28-13
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                            #48
                            rumour has it the rampage fight is back on.
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                            • Iamcloud
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                              • 02-10-15
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                              #49
                              Almeida is a lock, DJ by sub(+3.3)
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                              • UncleChael
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                                • 10-30-13
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Iamcloud
                                Almeida is a lock, DJ by sub(+3.3)
                                Thank you for ur input.
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                                • mirinquads
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                                  • 04-22-13
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  Theory still stands when it's the first rematch.. If it's the 3rd fight the theory goes right out the window as it then usually becomes a one sided affair like when Rich Franklin fought Anderson Silva 3 times and got worked..

                                  Sara Kaufman beat her twice already and she should hit the trifecta for the clean sweep!!! Good luck with your 30% bank roll bet Miri as you should watch it burn up...

                                  Hey but the first 2 fights were reasonably close so you never know? Then again Sara is still just 29 years old and still in her MMA prime. She's the stronger girl of the two and that's tough to bet against.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Sarah-Kaufman-16524
                                  It's your fault bruh, better pay me if it doesn't cash.
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    • 12-10-09
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                                    #52
                                    Like this 2 teamer.. Both fights most likely to cash in my opinion but unfortunately the odds reflect.. Probably should have thrown Patrick Cote in this as well and make it a 3 teamer but forgot...

                                    $108.50 $62.00 Pending 2 Team Parlay
                                    Pending 4/25/15 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Thomas Almeida -450* <small>vs</small> Yves Jabouin
                                    Pending 4/25/15 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Olivier Aubin-Mercier -350* <small>vs</small> David Michaud
                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-21-15, 06:50 PM.
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                                    • JIBBBY
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Iamcloud
                                      Almeida is a lock, DJ by sub(+3.3)
                                      Good reporting Iamcloud..

                                      Not buying it as Rampage could be just blowing steam out of his arse with this tweet.. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/4/21...-fight-back-on
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                                      • JIBBBY
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                                        #54
                                        Yep does look like the Rampage fight is back on.. WOW, yahoo sports reports>>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-ca...16026-mma.html

                                        Cancelled 4/25/15 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Fabio Maldonado -260* <small>vs</small> Steve Bosse
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                                        • tebowned
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                                          • 11-17-14
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                                          #55
                                          Hey Vegas Locals?

                                          Where can I place a bet on these fights on Friday at 4am local time? I need a 24 hour sports book for MMA.
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                                          • yisman
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                                            • 09-01-08
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                            Yep does look like the Rampage fight is back on.. WOW, yahoo sports reports>>> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-ca...16026-mma.html

                                            Cancelled 4/25/15 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Fabio Maldonado -260* <small>vs</small> Steve Bosse
                                            yep

                                            Bosse was replaced by Rampage
                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                            [/quote]

                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                            • Kermit
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                                              • 09-27-10
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by plekz
                                              rumour has it the rampage fight is back on.
                                              It has just been confirmed that it is back on.
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #58
                                                Fabio Maldonaldo can't punk Rampage standing and trading in the pocket I think.. Rampage could lose by decision though if Fabio runs and boxes really well.. I'm gonna bet on Rampage anyways as I think he probably wins by KO...

                                                I would laugh though if Rampage gets dropped by Maldonaldo in this fight and then cut from the UFC shortly after failing a drug test.

                                                $100.00 $150.00 Pending 4/25/15 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Quinton Jackson/Fabio Maldonado Under 2½ +150*
                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-21-15, 10:00 PM.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  #59
                                                  Reading all the gambling forums tonight as I watch and bet on the NBA playoffs.. Lot's of MMA betting heads are on the CB Dollaway by decision win at +190...

                                                  I’m personally a little worried CB may finish.. After all Bisping is getting up in age and has been spending more time in the UFC studios then in the gym lately… CB Dollaway is probably working day and night after that quick Machida loss.. Just saying…

                                                  Liking CB Dollaway in this match up regardless at the current price of +125… CB Dollaway 6 KO's, 3 Subs.. 6 wins by decison...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/CB-Dollaway-22350
                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-21-15, 09:34 PM.
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                                                  • Hollafront
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                                                    #60
                                                    CB will finish Bittchping by GNP or sub.

                                                    Rampage and Maldonaldo will go decision. Page and finishing Maldonaldo and vice versa.
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                                                    • Sykes
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                                                      #61
                                                      ^^ Rampage is not fighting. Bisping is better than you guys think. Hes not top level but better than most.. Just saying.
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                                                      • bjpenn85
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                                                        • 02-17-11
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                                                        #62
                                                        yep, those over under-bets are like lotto. You win some you loose some. A lot of matchups are very juicy, and the bets that cashes is very hard to foresee. who thought holloway could submit swanson? Or a sterling with a typical mizugaki sub (i know you prediced this jibby) ? i mean its no point..this becomes a profit reducing factor longterm, at least for me.
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                                                        • agendaman
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                                                          • 12-01-11
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                                                          #63
                                                          careful on this dolloway train why do i smell trap
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                                                          • Domestic
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                                                            • 02-10-09
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Sykes
                                                            ^^ Rampage is not fighting. Bisping is better than you guys think. Hes not top level but better than most.. Just saying.
                                                            Pretty sure he is fighting now man, also agree with you on Bisping.
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                                                            • getlucky2win
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                                                              • 01-14-12
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by tebowned
                                                              Hey Vegas Locals?

                                                              Where can I place a bet on these fights on Friday at 4am local time? I need a 24 hour sports book for MMA.
                                                              southpoint casino book is open 24-7. westgate aka lvh. also william hill has machines open 24-7 at casinos downtown, hooters, pt sports bars etc.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #66
                                                                Rampage Jackson -300 now.. Geez.....

                                                                First fight back in the UFC so I certainly don't see Rampage losing, even if it goes to decision Maldonaldo will probably get robbed if need be.......

                                                                Maldonaldo will hold the boxing edge but not the punching power and chin strength as both favor Rampage Jackson..

                                                                3-1 odds you will be paying to play that straight... Yipes!!!!


                                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-22-15, 10:19 PM.
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                                                                • yacuna island
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                                                                  • 03-06-15
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  How can you lay money on a guy that is the worst cry baby and rolls out excuse after excuse. If he loses it will always be someone else's fault

                                                                  Maldonado is going to be a vegetable when he retires too.
                                                                  I'd love to know the stat of how many power punches he's had in his face
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                                                                  • Sanity Check
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                                                                    • 03-30-13
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Rampage had a lingering knee injury around the time he fought Rashad that never healed properly. Being oblique kicked by Jon Jones might have also aggravated it. That injury was never dealt with properly until Rampage moved to Bellator, which is when he was supposed to have rehabbed it fully.

                                                                    That's the major upside to Rampage from his last stint in the UFC.

                                                                    But yeah, Yacuna. Rampage does have a tendency to be as disciplined or want it as more as others do. He tends to slack off and cut corners, then he blames his opponents when he shows up out of shape and is out hustled by wrestlers who just want to hug and cuddle.

                                                                    Maldonado was training with Team Nogueira. I think he left Team Nog because they made him pay gym fees, whereas other UFC pros didn't have to. Maldonado has been training out of his own gym for his last few fights. Not sure if Maldonado has quality sparring partners in his gym to work with, he might just be training himself over there.
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      ^^^^All indicators certainly suggest Rampage should win this fight...
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                                                                      • Sanity Check
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        ^^^^All indicators certainly suggest Rampage should win this fight...
                                                                        I would think Rampage has to be a lock.

                                                                        But what if Rampage ate nothing but donuts and junk food when his fight with Maldonado was cancelled. He stopped training and hit the clubs.

                                                                        As a result, Rampage has a terrible weight cut that dehydrates him and leaves him half dead on the scale, and Maldonado beats him on points?

                                                                        Rampage is so prone towards goofing off and not taking his fighting career seriously. Might be a good idea to wait for weigh ins to see how in shape he looks 24 hrs before the fight.
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