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  • Ron_Paul_2012
    SBR MVP
    • 01-31-13
    • 3953

    #176
    New interview of Brian Tuohy author of The Fix Is In. His latest book is Larceny Games.



    Fast forward to the 11:00 mark.
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    • marzwoody
      SBR MVP
      • 01-03-14
      • 3902

      #177
      Does he mention anything about reptiles?
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      • MD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-31-12
        • 9728

        #178
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Cant really remember, think it was cos they were worried about lookin like they dont care about womens rights and shiiit
        "Threw him under the boss​."
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #179
          Originally posted by Vaughany
          nah, they found out eventually that she'd accused two other guys before and lied so he got away with it. But the Marines threw him under the boss during it and didnt support him (which is one of main reasons he quit)
          lol didnt realise i'd put that
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          • Thor4140
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #180
            Originally posted by MD
            "Threw him under the boss​."
            i started thinking maybe the saying was "throw him under the boss"
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            • Thor4140
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-09-08
              • 22296

              #181
              Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
              New interview of Brian Tuohy author of The Fix Is In. His latest book is Larceny Games.



              Fast forward to the 11:00 mark.
              LOL all this shit i said before and u were posting tin foil hats. Now your hero say's something about it and u are all in Let me help this guy out a little. the refs are a small part of it but it is some players and many coaches who do the most damage all from from the leagues orders. Pete Rose did this on his own and will never ever see the hall of fame. Now guys like Peyton or Brady (who both brought in the number for the books) will get color commentator jobs if they want. Trillion dollar business world wide and no corruption? U have to be one of the most naive asshats in the world to believe that.
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              • Ron_Paul_2012
                SBR MVP
                • 01-31-13
                • 3953

                #182
                Originally posted by Thor4140
                LOL all this shit i said before and u were posting tin foil hats. Now your hero say's something about it and u are all in Let me help this guy out a little. the refs are a small part of it but it is some players and many coaches who do the most damage all from from the leagues orders. Pete Rose did this on his own and will never ever see the hall of fame. Now guys like Peyton or Brady (who both brought in the number for the books) will get color commentator jobs if they want. Trillion dollar business world wide and no corruption? U have to be one of the most naive asshats in the world to believe that.
                You seem to be very confused Thor. To be clear. No one on this message board believes that there is zero corruption in sports. However, no one is jumping on your wild eyed conjecture wagon either. If you do not understand the difference then so be it.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #183
                  Imagine if injury rehab was as efficient as drug rehab? It would be an entirely different sport.
                  Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) light heavyweight champion Jon Jones checked himself into a drug rehabilitation facility last week, following news that he tested positive for cocaine metabolites prior to his UFC 182 title defense in Las Vegas.
                  But it was less of a stay and more of a <strike style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;">publicity stunt</strike> layover.
                  In fact, "Bones" was in and out within 24 hours, according to his mother Camille, who also revealed (via Action News 12) that she was glad her son got pinched by Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), because it will help him prevent a small problem from snowballing into a much larger one.

                  Her words:
                  "I'm glad that this happened to Jon, this stopped him in his tracks, this let him know that he may need to change some friends, you know, because everyone is not for you for the best. Me and my husband considered it a blessing from God that our child was able to be helped and know that he need to stop and know that he needed the assistance to stop before it came to something worse. When he tested positive, my first question was, do you have a problem, a serious problem? And then he told me what happened. Jon is usually very honest with me, so he told me what happened. I was like, good for you....good. You needed to be caught, it was just timing."
                  Jones did not face the wrath of his parents, nor will he face any disciplinary action from NSAC.
                  That's because "Bones" was tested out of competition and cocaine was not on the list of prohibited substances. As such, his unanimous decision win over Daniel Cormier will stand, and Jones will now move forward to face the winner of Alexander Gustafsson vs. Anthony Johnson, who fight for the No. 1 contender spot later this month (details).
                  In the meantime, he'll be stopping by the AFC Championship game this weekend to watch his brothers play.
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                  • Thor4140
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-09-08
                    • 22296

                    #184
                    Seems like people have forgotten Jones drinking and driving incident. Looks like the kid likes to party.
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                    • Thor4140
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-09-08
                      • 22296

                      #185
                      Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                      You seem to be very confused Thor. To be clear. No one on this message board believes that there is zero corruption in sports. However, no one is jumping on your wild eyed conjecture wagon either. If you do not understand the difference then so be it.
                      i think the difference is that i can see things right in my face while a guy like u needs this ass hat to explain everything to ya.
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                      • Sacrelicious
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-29-12
                        • 5984

                        #186
                        Anythony Pettis is out for 9 months with complications arising from a hiatal hernia.
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                        • mirinquads
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-22-13
                          • 3927

                          #187
                          Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                          Anythony Pettis is out for 9 months with complications arising from a hiatal hernia.
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                          • MD
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-31-12
                            • 9728

                            #188
                            Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                            Anythony Pettis is out for 9 months with complications arising from a hiatal hernia.
                            This is why you won't be on the new forum.
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                            • Beelzebubzy
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-06-11
                              • 6995

                              #189
                              It was either [change his approach] or retire," Hendricks said. "That's how bad that weight cut was." Hendricks, long since conditioned to weight cutting during an amateur wrestling career which culminated in an NCAA championship, had made a habit of letting his weight go as high as 218 in between fights. But the former champ now understands his approach started working against him.
                              "It sucks because the last couple fights have been where it's been questionable" Hendricks said. "And it's been half my fault. I can't do that weight cut. I can't balloon up to 218 and think that [Mike] Dolce can get me down to weight. That's where I'm taking the responsibility. I'm walking around at '95, and I'm getting my muscle mass back, I'm looking to get my body weight back. ... It will also be better for me when I fight, because I'll have my power back, my steam, and you feel like you're hitting hard again. That makes me happy. It will help with my wrestling or anything."
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                              • MD
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-31-12
                                • 9728

                                #190
                                Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                It was either [change his approach] or retire," Hendricks said. "That's how bad that weight cut was." Hendricks, long since conditioned to weight cutting during an amateur wrestling career which culminated in an NCAA championship, had made a habit of letting his weight go as high as 218 in between fights. But the former champ now understands his approach started working against him.
                                "It sucks because the last couple fights have been where it's been questionable" Hendricks said. "And it's been half my fault. I can't do that weight cut. I can't balloon up to 218 and think that [Mike] Dolce can get me down to weight. That's where I'm taking the responsibility. I'm walking around at '95, and I'm getting my muscle mass back, I'm looking to get my body weight back. ... It will also be better for me when I fight, because I'll have my power back, my steam, and you feel like you're hitting hard again. That makes me happy. It will help with my wrestling or anything."
                                When he said "it's been questionable", he was referring to the judges' decision.
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by MD
                                  This is why you won't be on the new forum.
                                  hey douche, when you leaving?

                                  nevermind, marty mcfly just told in a year from now you'll still be here.


                                  sweet, in other news...

                                  What Boston cares about right now: Get breaking updates on news, sports, and weather. Local alerts, things to do, and more on Boston.com.


                                  marty mcfly's sneakers are real
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                                  • Beelzebubzy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-06-11
                                    • 6995

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by MD
                                    When he said "it's been questionable", he was referring to the judges' decision.
                                    Damn. My reading comprehension is getting worse.
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                                    • MD
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-31-12
                                      • 9728

                                      #193
                                      The entertainment network where videos and personalities get really big, really fast. Download Vine to watch videos, remixes and trends before they blow up.


                                      Anderson destroys training partner... for some reason.
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by MD
                                        https://vine.co/v/ODH0EVLEZVI

                                        Anderson destroys training partner... for some reason.
                                        lol
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                                        • Crassus
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-08-12
                                          • 1538

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by MD
                                          https://vine.co/v/ODH0EVLEZVI

                                          Anderson destroys training partner... for some reason.
                                          He's waking him up.
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                                          • marzwoody
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-03-14
                                            • 3902

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by MD
                                            https://vine.co/v/ODH0EVLEZVI

                                            Anderson destroys training partner... for some reason.
                                            Faker then CM punks "fights" in the WWE.
                                            Nice job by the stuntman Dana hired to make Anderson "the can" Silva's knee look legit.
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                                            • marzwoody
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-03-14
                                              • 3902

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                              hey douche, when you leaving?

                                              nevermind, marty mcfly just told in a year from now you'll still be here.


                                              sweet, in other news...

                                              What Boston cares about right now: Get breaking updates on news, sports, and weather. Local alerts, things to do, and more on Boston.com.


                                              marty mcfly's sneakers are real
                                              Sadly i don't think you can buy them with betpoints. maybe next year.
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                                              • MD
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-31-12
                                                • 9728

                                                #198
                                                Nate Diaz made $16000 for the dos Anjos fight.

                                                They're getting thousands of betpoints a month from Brooks yet they still aren't paying their fighters? Fock the UFC, seriously.

                                                That's legitimately disgusting.
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                                                • brooks85
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                  Nate Diaz made $16000 for the dos Anjos fight.

                                                  They're getting thousands of betpoints a month from Brooks yet they still aren't paying their fighters? Fock the UFC, seriously.

                                                  That's legitimately disgusting.
                                                  overpaid for that performance.
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                                                  • MD
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-31-12
                                                    • 9728

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    overpaid for that performance.
                                                    After taxes and training camp costs, he's taking home far less than that, probably under half.

                                                    He fought for the title just two years ago, he's a perennial top five/top ten guy, and he has been fighting very high-ranked guys, dos Anjos being #3 in the world. I think that sort of payout for a guy like Diaz is criminal, especially with the number of events he has headlined, to good ratings no less.

                                                    He's certainly worth more, I don't think that can be argued against at this point. The ratings of his FOX shows alone substantiate that.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                      overpaid for that performance.
                                                      They wouldn't of known he was going to put in that performance before though would they
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                                                      • brooks85
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                        They wouldn't of known he was going to put in that performance before though would they
                                                        bingo

                                                        hence why he is fairly paid. He didn't win, he got what he deserved. Free market is a beautiful thing.
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                                                        • MD
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-31-12
                                                          • 9728

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by brooks85
                                                          bingo

                                                          hence why he is fairly paid. He didn't win, he got what he deserved.
                                                          That's not how you decide who gets paid what. Their value is not directly equivalent with their success on fight night.
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                                                          • brooks85
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 44709

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by MD
                                                            That's not how you decide who gets paid what. Their value is not directly equivalent with their success on fight night.
                                                            I couldn't disagree more. There is no set value, it all comes down to perception. Nate sat out a year and came back with a shit performance. Whoever setup his contract deserves a raise if anything.
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                                                            • MD
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-31-12
                                                              • 9728

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                                              I couldn't disagree more. There is no set value, it all comes down to perception. Nate sat out a year and came back with a shit performance. Whoever setup his contract deserves a raise if anything.
                                                              How do you explain Frank Mir getting paid so much? $200K to drop his fourth fight in a row, to Overeem.
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                                                              • brooks85
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-05-09
                                                                • 44709

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                                How do you explain Frank Mir getting paid so much? $200K to drop his fourth fight in a row, to Overeem.

                                                                I don't, I just said you can't. You can't put a set value on any of these fighters, they are commodities but they are technically not "commodities." Corn and Oil have set prices. These fighters are worth as much as or as little as they can get and it is all based on perception.

                                                                Mir is a HW, UFC loves him, he loves the UFC, fans love him, reem/mir is a huge draw(again being HW is naturally a better draw).

                                                                UFC hates diaz bros and rightfully so, they also apparently love to hate UFC. Nate was out a year and it clearly showed. Definitely smart business move to give him a low contract.




                                                                Lesnar is going to be back in the UFC and make more than all these guys. And he deserves every penny.
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                                                                • Thor4140
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                                  • 22296

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                                  How do you explain Frank Mir getting paid so much? $200K to drop his fourth fight in a row, to Overeem.
                                                                  Stop debating this nitwit. He will be a corporate nut huggers the rest of his life. The funny part is that he hates unions but holds a union job. He would be happy if Nate got 500 and the rest of the card got that too. The problem with putting this douchebag on ignore is he sucks others into his billionaire mentality. They quote him and guys like me read his nonsense (cause it is visible)even tho he is on ignore. "Give Nate 25 dollars but stay the hell away from my union pension and perks". I don't have anything against corporations but this clown thinks he is gonna be a billionaire someday and will carry the water bucket for any type of greddy CEO as long as they make money. No matter how they make it..
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                                                                  • MD
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-31-12
                                                                    • 9728

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    I don't, I just said you can't. You can't put a set value on any of these fighters, they are commodities but they are technically not "commodities." Corn and Oil have set prices. These fighters are worth as much as or as little as they can get and it is all based on perception.

                                                                    Mir is a HW, UFC loves him, he loves the UFC, fans love him, reem/mir is a huge draw(again being HW is naturally a better draw).

                                                                    UFC hates diaz bros and rightfully so, they also apparently love to hate UFC. Nate was out a year and it clearly showed. Definitely smart business move to give him a low contract.




                                                                    Lesnar is going to be back in the UFC and make more than all these guys. And he deserves every penny.
                                                                    You can't argue that fighters have a set value, but you also cannot argue that fighters make what they're worth, because they're largely incapable of doing so. To make their true worth, collective bargaining is required.

                                                                    To say that Diaz isn't worthy of being paid more because of his drawing power is inaccurate. He was co-main to Lesnar vs Overeem, and has headlined numerous shows, including FOX shows, with success in almost all of them, barring the Miller fight which was considerably below average.
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                                                                    • brooks85
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 44709

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                      Stop debating this nitwit. He will be a corporate nut huggers the rest of his life. The funny part is that he hates unions but holds a union job. He would be happy if Nate got 500 and the rest of the card got that too. The problem with putting this douchebag on ignore is he sucks others into his billionaire mentality. They quote him and guys like me read his nonsense (cause it is visible)even tho he is on ignore. "Give Nate 25 dollars but stay the hell away from my union pension and perks". I don't have anything against corporations but this clown thinks he is gonna be a billionaire someday and will carry the water bucket for any type of greddy CEO as long as they make money. No matter how they make it..


                                                                      even if it means turning little kids into chocolate

                                                                      muahahahah


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                                                                      • brooks85
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44709

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by MD
                                                                        You can't argue that fighters have a set value, but you also cannot argue that fighters make what they're worth, because they're largely incapable of doing so. To make their true worth, collective bargaining is required.

                                                                        To say that Diaz isn't worthy of being paid more because of his drawing power is inaccurate. He was co-main to Lesnar vs Overeem, and has headlined numerous shows, including FOX shows, with success in almost all of them, barring the Miller fight which was considerably below average.

                                                                        Make what their worth in THEIR opinion. Yes, it would achieve that certainly.


                                                                        And all that jazz you said about Nate was gone when he decided to take his ball and go home. He sat out a year and fought like it too.
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