WSOF 11: Gaethje vs. Newell (July 05, 2014)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #1
    WSOF 11: Gaethje vs. Newell (July 05, 2014)


    NBC, 4 p.m. ET
    Justin Gaethje vs. Nick Newell
    Jon Fitch vs. Dennis Hallman
    Pablo Alfonso vs. Cody Bollinger
    Gesias Cavalcante vs. Melvin Guillard

    MMAjunkie, 2 p.m. ET
    Benny Madrid vs. Luis Palomino
    Alexandre Pimentel vs. Jerrod Sanders
    Jose Caceres vs. Maurice Salmon
    Jake Heun vs. Kendrick Miree
    Neiman Gracie vs. Dustin Holyko

  • Lick496
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-07-11
    • 590

    #2
    5dimes took the lines off almost instantly
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    • Beelzebubzy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-06-11
      • 6995

      #3
      Gathje is a dog?
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      • Lick496
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-07-11
        • 590

        #4
        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
        Gathje is a dog?
        i was betting as it got cancelled
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        • Lick496
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-07-11
          • 590

          #5
          lollllll they put up the lines backwards
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          • Lick496
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-07-11
            • 590

            #6
            lollllll they put up the lines backwards
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            • Bumdeal
              SBR MVP
              • 12-17-13
              • 3954

              #7
              Newell at +300. Gaethje is a beast but this line is off.
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              • NunyaBidness
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-26-09
                • 9345

                #8
                Yeah, was up, I bet it, they flipped it, I took the other side.
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83686

                  #9
                  This might be the card to bet on over the weekend to make money..

                  My take and pics....

                  Love Nick Newell as an almost 4-1 underdog!!! Impossible to defend his chokes with that nub hook arm of his.. Once locked in it's impossible to escape.. (5 unit straight bet for me on Nick Newell)

                  I will never bet against that guy just because of his nub to go along with that razor sharp elbow of his... I also think it's an unfair advantage in the sport.. Nick could get KO'd charging in but once in the clinch or on the ground he's at a huge advantage as seen in all his previous fights and this one should be no different..


                  Going with Melvin Guillard and Jon Fitch in a parlay (3 units) - Jon Fitch is not fighting a guy whom knocks out people so he should win grinding it out as he likes to do.. Melvin is just simply more talented then his opponent also coming straight from the UFC....
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #10
                    Is melvin motivated this time like bj is motivated?
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                    • JIBBBY
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-10-09
                      • 83686

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                      Is melvin motivated this time like bj is motivated?
                      V don't start with me.. LOL...

                      Melvin is probably more motivated then ever fighting in this new organization.. Why wouldn't he be? New bosses, new venue, new start.. Should be a solid play just like Jon Fitch...
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                      • Jim_Gunn
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-20-13
                        • 542

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                        V don't start with me.. LOL...

                        Melvin is probably more motivated then ever fighting in this new organization.. Why wouldn't he be? New bosses, new venue, new start.. Should be a solid play just like Jon Fitch...
                        He didn't make weight and didn't seem to care much either.
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83686

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                          He didn't make weight and didn't seem to care much either.
                          Really Jimmy???... Not good then!!!! I didn't see the weigh ins..... Even an unmotivated and heavy Melvin should still win this fight.. We see..

                          I already got 3 units on him in a parlay and I ain't backing it up.. I guess my motivational theory is shattered then.. Let's gamble anyways....
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            V don't start with me.. LOL...

                            Melvin is probably more motivated then ever fighting in this new organization.. Why wouldn't he be? New bosses, new venue, new start.. Should be a solid play just like Jon Fitch...
                            Haha tht wasnt mocking you this time! More mocking those tht always say Melvin is back and focussed this time much like bj is always back and motivated this time!
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                            • Ron_Paul_2012
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-31-13
                              • 3953

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              This might be the card to bet on over the weekend to make money..

                              My take and pics....

                              Love Nick Newell as an almost 4-1 underdog!!! Impossible to defend his chokes with that nub hook arm of his.. Once locked in it's impossible to escape.. (10 unit straight bet for me on Nick Newell)

                              I will never bet against that guy just because of his nub to go along with that razor sharp elbow of his... I also think it's an unfair advantage in the sport.. Nick could get KO'd charging in but once in the clinch or on the ground he's at a huge advantage as seen in all his previous fights and this one should be no different..


                              Going with Melvin Guillard and Jon Fitch in a parlay (3 units) - Jon Fitch is not fighting a guy whom knocks out people so he should win grinding it out as he likes to do.. Melvin is just simply more talented then his opponent also coming straight from the UFC....
                              Never know when you are trolling Jibster. If you're serious about Newell then I can't wait to read MD's response. Newell is going to get absolutely DEMOLISHED!
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83686

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                Never know when you are trolling Jibster. If you're serious about Newell then I can't wait to read MD's response. Newell is going to get absolutely DEMOLISHED!
                                I said he could get knocked out charging in like he does in fights, but when clinched or on the ground Nick can sneak in and land that choke from crazy angles, it's sneaky, it's fast and very hard to see coming..

                                Sure he's fighting a beast and very good wrestler but Nick Newell is someone you can't prepare for.. I think Nick get's the choke locked in again at some point in this fight.. I'm betting on it anyways...

                                I think the odds should be closer to even or Nick Newell even being favored a bit in my mind.. Certainly not a 4-1 underdog anyways..

                                WE SEE IF HE GET DEMOLISHED Ronster like you say...
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                                • MD
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-31-12
                                  • 9728

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  This might be the card to bet on over the weekend to make money..

                                  My take and pics....

                                  Love Nick Newell as an almost 4-1 underdog!!! Impossible to defend his chokes with that nub hook arm of his.. Once locked in it's impossible to escape.. (10 unit straight bet for me on Nick Newell)

                                  I will never bet against that guy just because of his nub to go along with that razor sharp elbow of his... I also think it's an unfair advantage in the sport.. Nick could get KO'd charging in but once in the clinch or on the ground he's at a huge advantage as seen in all his previous fights and this one should be no different..


                                  Going with Melvin Guillard and Jon Fitch in a parlay (3 units) - Jon Fitch is not fighting a guy whom knocks out people so he should win grinding it out as he likes to do.. Melvin is just simply more talented then his opponent also coming straight from the UFC....
                                  Are you insane? Have you ever seen Justin Gaethje fight?
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                                  • marzwoody
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-03-14
                                    • 3902

                                    #18
                                    He fights like a bum and newell should wreck him
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MD
                                      Are you insane? Have you ever seen Justin Gaethje fight?
                                      I have and he's a beast. Undefeated.. Justin is tough....

                                      Still Nick Newell has adapted to fight extremely well with the nub and is a decent wrestler himself, he has that advantage with the chop arm and that might be enough in this fight.. Nick is dangerous in tight range and that's all I know... He's undefeated too..

                                      I honestly don't think he should be allowed to fight in MMA.. Gotta consider this - His arm missing full of blood has to be a 7 to 10 pound weight reduction in body mass, so when you think about it, his body and core should be bigger then other fighters at weigh ins.. No one considers that with Nick Newell either..

                                      He gives up a hand and wrist but get's alot in return... You also can't prepare to fight that guy either as the opposing fighter with the Nick Newell sub attacks... NO WAY....

                                      He's the underdog story in MMA... He has a chance in this one for sure.....
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                                      • MD
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-31-12
                                        • 9728

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        I have and he's a beast. Undefeated.. Justin is tough....

                                        Still Nick Newell has adapted to fight extremely well with the nub and is a decent wrestler himself, he has that advantage with the chop arm and that might be enough in this fight.. Nick is dangerous in tight rage and that's all I know... He's undefeated too..

                                        I honestly don't think he should be allowed to fight in MMA.. Gotta consider this - His arm missing full of blood has to be a 7 to 10 pound weight reduction, so when you think about it, his body weight and core should be bigger then other fighters when weighing in.. No one considers that with Nick Newell either..


                                        He gives up a hand and wrist but get's alot in return...
                                        You also can't prepare to fight that guy either as the opposing fighter with the Nick Newell sub attacks... NO WAY....

                                        He's the underdog story in MMA... He has a chance in this one for sure.....
                                        There's a tolerable level of stupidity on SBR, and presenting the idea that Nick Newell should not be allowed to fight in MMA because of the advantage of having half of his arm chopped off is far past that level.

                                        You always find new and more inventive ways to make yourself look bad. It's so much easier to assume you're a troll.
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                                        • marzwoody
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-03-14
                                          • 3902

                                          #21
                                          Lol i honestly dident even know nick newell was that kid without an arm thats how much i was paying attention. but if jibster is right and he wins, then jibby has achieved boss status.
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                                          • Skel
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-04-14
                                            • 1284

                                            #22
                                            Nick "the Nub" Newell
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                                            • Lick496
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 12-07-11
                                              • 590

                                              #23
                                              Wowwwwww jibby..........
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                                              • JIBBBY
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83686

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                There's a tolerable level of stupidity on SBR, and presenting the idea that Nick Newell should not be allowed to fight in MMA because of the advantage of having half of his arm chopped off is far past that level.

                                                You always find new and more inventive ways to make yourself look bad. It's so much easier to assume you're a troll.
                                                My logic is undeniable, don't hate congratulate.....

                                                This UFC tonight special edition on FOX1 is crap and weak.. Gonna check out some fireworks now.. I'm out.
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                                                • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-31-13
                                                  • 3953

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  This might be the card to bet on over the weekend to make money..

                                                  My take and pics....

                                                  Love Nick Newell as an almost 4-1 underdog!!! Impossible to defend his chokes with that nub hook arm of his.. Once locked in it's impossible to escape.. (10 unit straight bet for me on Nick Newell)

                                                  I will never bet against that guy just because of his nub to go along with that razor sharp elbow of his... I also think it's an unfair advantage in the sport.. Nick could get KO'd charging in but once in the clinch or on the ground he's at a huge advantage as seen in all his previous fights and this one should be no different..


                                                  Going with Melvin Guillard and Jon Fitch in a parlay (3 units) - Jon Fitch is not fighting a guy whom knocks out people so he should win grinding it out as he likes to do.. Melvin is just simply more talented then his opponent also coming straight from the UFC....
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                                                  • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-31-13
                                                    • 3953

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by marzwoody
                                                    He fights like a bum and newell should wreck him
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                                                    • Bumdeal
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                      • 3954

                                                      #27
                                                      I like Newell at >+300 odds. Not having an arm to defend against Gaethje insane aggression will certainly be cause for concern but I do give Newell a shot and think odds are inflated here. Justin will need to approach this more conservative than we've seen from him in the past or I believe he may end up in a bad position. I don't think this will be the blow out you guys suggest. Should be fun to watch, gotta figure out how I will catch it in Dominican Republic, maybe free stream sites.

                                                      Also, fade guillard.
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                                                      • reigle9
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-25-07
                                                        • 17879

                                                        #28
                                                        This beating on live network tv is going to get mma banned. Use your money to wipe your ass if you'd bet Newell at 10/1.
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                                                        • Bumdeal
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-17-13
                                                          • 3954

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by reigle9
                                                          This beating on live network tv is going to get mma banned. Use your money to wipe your ass if you'd bet Newell at 10/1.
                                                          and yet the line opened at 4-1. Weird huh? Guess you should bet your life on it, you seem really confident.
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #30
                                                            Jibbeh's love for the handicapped like Newell is understandable fellas

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                                                            • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-31-13
                                                              • 3953

                                                              #31
                                                              Nick Newell has been managed/handled with kid gloves. He's had soft touches for opponents up till now. I believe he really thinks of himself as elite. However, Gaethje is no soft touch. Newell & his backers are going to be in for a huge reality check! Believe it!!
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                                                              • FightFightFight
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-21-11
                                                                • 594

                                                                #32
                                                                Newell is mediocre with a quick td, but looks like guys cant defend the choke. nothing there to pry the arm off with. Thats the advantage. Gaethje could get caught if he's not smart.
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                                                                • FightFightFight
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-21-11
                                                                  • 594

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Having said, I'm not sure if Newell can pull it off whilst laying face down in a pool of blood.
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                                                                  • Thor4140
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                                    • 22296

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    Is melvin motivated this time like bj is motivated?
                                                                    V BJ has been walking around at 148 for three days now. Don't u learn anything. Motivated like never before.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Let me use my strong hand child!
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