UFC Fight Night: Te Huna vs. Marquardt (June 28, 2014)

[JIBBBY]

30 lbs is 30 lbs. Obviously 30 lbs of muscle mass is more difficult to deal with. But I've grappled with guys + or - 30 lbs and it's a world of difference.

I'm 6'5" 240 pounds and in good shape, I wrestled in high school, trained a few years as an adult in grappling here in LA years ago... I've been rag dolled by one or two guys around 190-200lbs (D1 wrestlers) with that wirey gorilla like strength combined with good wrestling skills, it was very disheartening.. Out weighed them by 40 pounds... Very humbling..

Sure weight and size advantages matters but that's not always the case when the skill and farm boy strength advantages come into play for the smaller dude.. Cardio and speed factors also can be hard too to deal with as the bigger guy..

[Vaughany]

When was the last time you grappled against someone 30 lbs heavier than you cuz?

Well, gaberz rolls with joey diaz every night, he's about 300 lbs heavier

[TheCalculator]

well, gaberz rolls with joey diaz every night, he's about 300 lbs heavier

lmao

[TheCalculator]

I'm 6'5" 240 pounds and in good shape, I wrestled in high school, trained a few years as an adult in grappling here in LA years ago... I've been rag dolled by one or two guys around 190-200lbs (D1 wrestlers) with that wirey gorilla like strength combined with good wrestling skills, it was very disheartening.. Out weighed them by 40 pounds... Very humbling..
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I've out grappled guys 50 lbs heavier than me a couple times. I was able to neutralize and win half the grappling matches against 2 national Judo champions -- primarily cause I was bigger stronger.

The most humbled I've ever been is completely overpowered by a big dude on roids. Guys was literally 2X stronger than me and weighed about 30 lbs more and I couldn't do anything grappling wise.

[gabe]

When was the last time you grappled against someone 30 lbs heavier than you cuz?

lol are we pretending i'm a decorated wrestler a la rosholt?

[marzwoody]

Well, gaberz rolls with joey diaz every night, he's about 300 lbs heavier

Lmao.. I GOT THAT HIP ESCAPE DOWN DAWG!

[Ron_Paul_2012]

I've out grappled guys 50 lbs heavier than me a couple times. I was able to neutralize and win half the grappling matches against 2 national Judo champions -- primarily cause I was bigger stronger.

The most humbled I've ever been is completely overpowered by a big dude on roids. Guys was literally 2X stronger than me and weighed about 30 lbs more and I couldn't do anything grappling wise.

So why don't you gear up?

[JIBBBY]

Most comprehensive breakdown on Nate vs Te Huna yet.. 5 pages ..

I'm done trying to cap this fight now.. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2105277-nate-marquardt-vs-james-te-huna-full-head-to-toe-breakdown


Check the start time on this event fellas!!!!.. AM hours.. Fight Pass viewing only as well.. This sucks!!!

[TheCalculator]

So why don't you gear up?

LOL

Got nothing against the sauce -- but once you're on IMO there's no coming off. If I was competing or getting paid millions to do a movie I would strongly consider it. I see more liabilities than benefits at the moment. TRT in my 60s will probably be a GO.

[JIBBBY]

http://www.mmamania.com/2014/6/23/5833400/ufc-fight-night-43-preview-predictions-marquardt-vs-te-huna-online-prelims-new-zealand

[Dwil125]

Just threw a couple units on my boy neil magny at -258

[gabe]

Just threw a couple units on my boy neil magny at -258

what do you know about his opponent?

[JIBBBY]

dont sleep on soa. while he may be out wrestled, he is a great striker, has great power and a concrete chin. his BJJ is also far superior to roscholts, i wouldnt be suprised to see a submission. only chance roscholt has of beating soa is to hold him down 3 rounds, soa is the more complete fighter.

Contemplating if I want to play this action??? Jared is such an easy target to hit and Soa can hammer anyone unconscious if connecting solid....

Gotta figure Jared isn't gonna waste any time as he will shoot or close the distance in a hurry.. Jared has decent chin strength too..

Sad to say I think this is gonna be a pass and no play for me.. I think always go with the wrestler first but with a good striker with size and as experienced as Soa with that many fights under his belt he may just hit the target early on...

Forget about a submission from the bottom from Soa GR33D by the way.. Not gonna happen with these big HW's..

[JIBBBY]

what do you know about his opponent?

Word for word from a write up.... (copy and paste)

Rodrigo Goiana de Lima (8-1-1) missed all of 2012, but had a very successful 2013 campaign, picking up two first-round submissions and the Jungle Fight welterweight title in the process. The victories marked the 22-year-old’s fifth and sixth submission wins, both coming by way of rear-naked choke.
"Monstro" replaces the injured Claudio Henrque da Silva on around a month’s notice.
de Lima is younger and seems to be a physical beast -- he’s got the tools to make an eventual impact in the division. I say "eventual" because he’s not ready yet. Magny’s striking is improving rapidly and "Monstro’s" takedown offense doesn’t seem sufficient to overcome Neil’s takedown defense. Add that to a massive length advantage for the American and it adds up to an unsuccessful debut for the Brazilian.
It remains to be seen how Magny does against the Top 20. What we’ve seen so far, though, should be plenty to chew up "Monstro" at range -- decision win for Magny.
Prediction: Magny via unanimous decision

Odds are a little high for my liking at -250..... Should land for Magny though I would think..

[Dwil125]

what do you know about his opponent?

Only saw two videos on him there wasn't much footage I could find. He's replacing Claudio Da Silva and took the fight on just over three weeks notice. He's only 22 years old, but he has pro fights listed on his record from 2004 and 2006 which is really strange...? He has not faced great competition so far, and this is his first time fighting outside of Brazil. He looks like he is undersized for welterweight, and from the tape that I saw his opponents were smaller also. Magny should be able to keep him on the outside and defend his takedowns since he will be shooting from further away, Magny has a huge reach and is 6'2 or 6'3 this kid is 5'9 or 5'10 and his offensive wrestling was not set up well from the limited tape that I saw. Magny's Tdd has looked pretty good since he switched over to grudge, I don't see him getting neil down really. (I'm also somewhat biased since Ive ran into Magny a couple times before he was on tuf).

[gabe]

Only saw two videos on him there wasn't much footage I could find. He's replacing Claudio Da Silva and took the fight on just over three weeks notice. He's only 22 years old, but he has pro fights listed on his record from 2004 and 2006 which is really strange...? He has not faced great competition so far, and this is his first time fighting outside of Brazil. He looks like he is undersized for welterweight, and from the tape that I saw his opponents were smaller also. Magny should be able to keep him on the outside and defend his takedowns since he will be shooting from further away, Magny has a huge reach and is 6'2 or 6'3 this kid is 5'9 or 5'10 and his offensive wrestling was not set up well from the limited tape that I saw. Magny's Tdd has looked pretty good since he switched over to grudge, I don't see him getting neil down really. (I'm also somewhat biased since Ive ran into Magny a couple times before he was on tuf).

thanks, gonna download his jungle fight fights

[JIBBBY]

I just want to know if anyone reading in is actually gonna wake up early enough to view this event live??????

I'm placing the bets and crashing.. No chance of catching this one live... Wake up to results..

[Jim_Gunn]

I just want to know if anyone reading in is actually gonna wake up early enough to view this event live??????

I'm placing the bets and crashing.. No chance of catching this one live... Wake up to results..

Being an East Coaster, I'm more looking at it as staying up all night Friday night to watch, starting at 2:30 am then crashing after 7:30 am on Saturday when it's over and then getting up Saturday sometime after noon and watching the San Antonio show that evening.

[Dwil125]

I'm staying up for the first couple. hopefully there's some first round subs or something and it moves it along. Starts at 1:30 for me

[Grabaka]

I'm staying up for the first couple. hopefully there's some first round subs or something and it moves it along. Starts at 1:30 for me

Same here.

[Dwil125]

Same here.

I need to see that Hioki/do bronx fight though

[Keyboard Warrior]

I've out grappled guys 50 lbs heavier than me a couple times. I was able to neutralize and win half the grappling matches against 2 national Judo champions -- primarily cause I was bigger stronger.

The most humbled I've ever been is completely overpowered by a big dude on roids. Guys was literally 2X stronger than me and weighed about 30 lbs more and I couldn't do anything grappling wise.

BJJ > Judo

Freestyle > Judo

[JIBBBY]

Looks like everyone made weight...http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/ufc-fight-night-43-live-and-official-weigh-in-results

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/6/26/5843720/ufc-fight-night-43-weigh-in-video

[MD]

Wiki-capping the weighins. Love ya jibster.

There's no way I'm watching this card. This is f-cking terrible. 'Capping these fights is a chore.

[Keyboard Warrior]

Hey Md, new really good anime coming out:

[MD]

Seen Kaiji? Some serious manly gambling going on right there. Akagi too.

[JIBBBY]

I see Nate is trying to pad up his chin for this fight.. LOL... Maybe he can take a punch like Roy Nelson now..

[Skel]

Magny + Faber 10 units to win 5 units
De Lima/Magny O2.5 -130 3.25 units to win 2.5 units
Faber + Hioki/Oliveira GTD + Not Musoke by decision 2.5 units to win 2.05 units
Palelei by decision +1500 0.5 units to win 7.5 units
Rosholt by decision +375 0.5 units to win 1.875 units
Palelei/Rosholt O1.5 +120 2 units to win 2.4 units
Palelei/Rosholt GTD +280 1.5 units to win 4.2 units
Matthews by decision +364 2 units to win 7.25 units
Oliveira + Enz 2 units to win 2.7 units
Oliveira + Borg 1.5 units to win 1.3 units
Grujic/Indich GTD -150 2.25 units to win 1.5 units

[Skel]

Being an East Coaster, I'm more looking at it as staying up all night Friday night to watch, starting at 2:30 am then crashing after 7:30 am on Saturday when it's over and then getting up Saturday sometime after noon and watching the San Antonio show that evening.

Same here. I'm trying this new Vitamin Water energy drink.

[Skel]

Wiki-capping the weighins. Love ya jibster.

There's no way I'm watching this card. This is f-cking terrible. 'Capping these fights is a chore.

If I miss these fights, I won't be able to cap the competitors' next fights. It's so much easier to watch fights live than to go back and watch tape.

[Rubber Guard]

I dont care to watch nor cap it just from that weigh in pic, large on Te Huna. Nate looks like an idiot. And it is obvious that he is old and not roided.

[JIBBBY]

I dont care to watch nor cap it just from that weigh in pic, large on Te Huna. Nate looks like an idiot. And it is obvious that he is old and not roided.

^^^I put a little on Nate +170 as the underdog (1 unit) but I agree that this fight could go South for him, I'm not confident and probably should have made this a no play.. Temped by the odds as usual.... I'm thinking Nate isn't completely washed up just yet and Tuna isn't all that..

I got some back up play taking the U +100 for (5 units) if Nate does fold in a hurry..

I'm just hoping Nate doesn't run for 2 rounds in fear.. I think this one ends in a hurry either way...

[MD]

If I miss these fights, I won't be able to cap the competitors' next fights. It's so much easier to watch fights live than to go back and watch tape.

What is your idea of "watching tape"?

[Bumdeal]

took villante and magny to start. hoping i can stay awake to watch 2 or 3 fights.

... this is a hilarious article.

http://www.examiner.com/article/long-island-stud-gian-villante-set-to-melt-hearts-at-ufc-fight-night-43

2 paragraphs devoted to how sexy he is.

then

"Long Island heartthrob Gian Villante (11-5) faces the toughest challenge of his young career this weekend in New Zealand when he goes up against fast-rising superstar Sean O'Connell"

"Villante vs. O'Connell is an absolute must-watch, as both men could be fighting to remain on the UFC roster."

[Jim_Gunn]

UFN 43 Risk $602.00

Nate Marquardt (+185) vs James Te Huna $40.00 for $74.00
Marquardt wins in round 1 (+700) $10.00 for $70.00
Nate Marquardt/James Te Huna Over 1½ (-150) $45.00 for $30.00
Jared Rosholt (-140) vs Soa Palelei $56.00 for $40.00
Rosholt wins by 3 round decision (+455) $10.00 for $45.50
Soa Palelei/Jared Rosholt Over 1½ (+120) $40.00 for $48.00
Hatsu Hioki (+190) vs Charles Oliveira $40.00 for $76.00
Mike Rhodes (+250) vs Robert Whittaker $25.00 for $62.50

Jake Matthews (-130) vs Dashon Johnson $26.00 for $20.00
Matthews wins by 3 round decision (+364) $10.00 for $36.40
Roldan Sangcha-An (+130) vs Richie Vaculik $25.00 for $32.50
Vik Grujik (-120) vs Chris Indich $30.00 for $25.00
Vik Grujic/Chris Indich Over 2½ (-165) $165.00 for $100.00
Magny wins by 3 round decision (+138) $15.00 for $20.70

Daniel Hooker/Ian Entwhistle Under 1½ (+105) $20.00 for $21.00
Sean O'Connell (+250) vs Gian Villante $20.00 for $50.00

Parlay:
Roland Sangcha-An (+132) + Grujic/Indich Over 2½ (-165) + Neil Magny (-285) $25.00 for $100.84