UFC Fight Night: Shogun vs. Henderson 2 (March 23, 2014)

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  • Wilbo86
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    • 01-22-14
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    #36
    I think the Doberman should be close to even money, expecting a close fight...

    Odds aren't out where i am, hopeing for decent + money on him
    Last edited by Wilbo86; 03-20-14, 06:49 PM.
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    • PunisherIND
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      #37
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      • begood2
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        • 01-04-14
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        #38
        I'm thinking about a triple on Markes, Brandao and Rua.

        I have some reservations about Chope's 12 inch reach advantage and if he learned his lesson from his last fight and will now abide by a strict jab and move gameplan. However I don't think Chope is at the same level skill/talent wise. I'll have to see the weight ins also to determine if Brandao is in the right head space and if he makes weight this time around. But the whole fight seems to be a 'get the Brazilian' a win for the home fans.

        I wonder is it the same for Rua v Hendo. Hendo's 3 fight losing streak is too much to ignore. As is his age. I know he's been counted out on that before but I think the time has come. Or at least that my best estimation. He's saying he wants to see out his 6 fight contract but he must be thinking about retiring since he won't be able to use TRT anymore after this fight. But does he use TRT 365 days of the year or weekly or does he go on 12 week cycles. I don't know. Another thing you always here about is the H-Bomb. We haven't seen that in years

        The Markes fight is the one I'm most confident about
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        • Vaughany
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          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #39
          Originally posted by begood2
          I'm thinking about a triple on Markes, Brandao and Rua.

          I have some reservations about Chope's 12 inch reach advantage and if he learned his lesson from his last fight and will now abide by a strict jab and move gameplan. However I don't think Chope is at the same level skill/talent wise. I'll have to see the weight ins also to determine if Brandao is in the right head space and if he makes weight this time around. But the whole fight seems to be a 'get the Brazilian' a win for the home fans.

          I wonder is it the same for Rua v Hendo. Hendo's 3 fight losing streak is too much to ignore. As is his age. I know he's been counted out on that before but I think the time has come. Or at least that my best estimation. He's saying he wants to see out his 6 fight contract but he must be thinking about retiring since he won't be able to use TRT anymore after this fight. But does he use TRT 365 days of the year or weekly or does he go on 12 week cycles. I don't know. Another thing you always here about is the H-Bomb. We haven't seen that in years

          The Markes fight is the one I'm most confident about
          I was hoping to get Markes at -800 so waiting..needs to be chalkier
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          • Vaughany
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            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #40
            Originally posted by PunisherIND
            lol never gets old
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            • Vaughany
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              • 03-07-10
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              #41
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              • marzwoody
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                • 01-03-14
                • 3902

                #42
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                The doberman gon f-ck some nuggaz up
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                • Beelzebubzy
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                  • 06-06-11
                  • 6995

                  #43
                  Jorgenson Dec +100
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                  • MD
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                    • 01-31-12
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                    Jorgenson Dec +100
                    Terrible bet, IMO. Jorgensen straight is -190, there virtually can't be less than a 15% chance of Jorgensen getting a finish with Formiga's propensity for quitting, I think.
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                    • Beelzebubzy
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                      • 06-06-11
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                      #45
                      Public agrees with you

                      Dec prop at +140
                      Last edited by Beelzebubzy; 03-21-14, 10:05 PM.
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                      • judochop87
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 12-01-13
                        • 51

                        #46
                        my plays so far (pending weigh ins)

                        Shogun ITD
                        Parke
                        Villante
                        Markes
                        Tausimov
                        Lahat
                        Perpetuo
                        Ferreira/CB o2.5
                        Jorgenson/Jussier ov2.5
                        Brando/Chope o1.5

                        What y'all think
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                        • Ron_Paul_2012
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                          • 01-31-13
                          • 3953

                          #47
                          Originally posted by judochop87
                          my plays so far (pending weigh ins)

                          Shogun ITD
                          Parke
                          Villante
                          Markes
                          Tausimov
                          Lahat
                          Perpetuo
                          Ferreira/CB o2.5
                          Jorgenson/Jussier ov2.5
                          Brando/Chope o1.5

                          What y'all think
                          I think you're going to make some money this Sunday!
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                          • marzwoody
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                            • 01-03-14
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                            #48
                            Markes + Brandao + Shogun
                            Shogun + Parke + Jason
                            Shogun + Parke
                            Dolloway + Parke + Maldonado

                            Thinking of making another play for brandao + shogun will see after the weigh ins
                            YOLO
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                            • Ron_Paul_2012
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                              • 01-31-13
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by marzwoody
                              Markes + Brandao + Shogun
                              Shogun + Parke + Jason
                              Shogun + Parke
                              Dolloway + Parke + Maldonado

                              Thinking of making another play for brandao + shogun will see after the weigh ins
                              YOLO
                              Just curious. Why did you wait so long to bet Brandao? You could have got him @ -320 via Bookmaker. He's a bit too expensive now.
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                              • marzwoody
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                                • 01-03-14
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                Just curious. Why did you wait so long to bet Brandao? You could have got him @ -320 via Bookmaker. He's a bit too expensive now.
                                Got that with the first parlay, haven't just made these bets recently, Guess just worrying about markes and cover it with more confidence in shogun and brandao?.
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                                • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                  • 01-31-13
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by marzwoody
                                  Got that with the first parlay, haven't just made these bets recently, Guess just worrying about markes and cover it with more confidence in shogun and brandao?.
                                  Anything can happen but I really don't see Markes losing. It would be upset of the year if he did. Markes is a skilled light heavyweight fighting @ 185 & his opponent is a mediocre welterweight taking a fight @ 185. Markes will take him down & get a submission.
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                                  • judochop87
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 12-01-13
                                    • 51

                                    #52
                                    I know the price is a little inflated but might put some on Branado straight or by Sub instead of the over 1.5, I am worried he snags a quick submission.
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                                    • marzwoody
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                                      • 01-03-14
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                      Anything can happen but I really don't see Markes losing. It would be upset of the year if he did. Markes is a skilled light heavyweight fighting @ 185 & his opponent is a mediocre welterweight taking a fight @ 185. Markes will take him down & get a submission.
                                      K thanks for the encouragement i got a lot riding on parke aswell but he should win as long as he keeps it standing and doesn't get trapped in anything.
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                                      • marzwoody
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                                        • 01-03-14
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by judochop87
                                        I know the price is a little inflated but might put some on Branado straight or by Sub instead of the over 1.5, I am worried he snags a quick submission.
                                        Its very possible. Chope has a weak ground game.
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                                        • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                          • 01-31-13
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by marzwoody
                                          K thanks for the encouragement i got a lot riding on parke aswell but he should win as long as he keeps it standing and doesn't get trapped in anything.
                                          Parke will win via Decision.
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                                          • marzwoody
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                                            • 01-03-14
                                            • 3902

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                            Parke will win via Decision.
                                            What do you think of shogun bro? just curious, i think its more risky than other plays but if he loses to hendo he might as well retire.
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                                            • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                              • 01-31-13
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by marzwoody
                                              What do you think of shogun bro? just curious, i think its more risky than other plays but if he loses to hendo he might as well retire.
                                              One never knows what Shogun will show up. I won't be laying down a single penny till' after the weigh in's. Even if Shogun appears to be in shape I still will only be placing a small bet on him. Lot's of things to consider. How is Hendo going to come back after his head rattling KO from Vitor. Hendo is also 43 & looked terribly slow & stiff vs Machida. Rua is now with a serious camp with Maia. He had many people that pushed him in preparation for Hendo. I'll probably end up playing 5 units on Rua but no more than that.
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                                              • judochop87
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                                                • 12-01-13
                                                • 51

                                                #58
                                                I agree with this one, will be playing Parke by Dec.
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                                                • NunyaBidness
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                                                  • 07-26-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  Markes 190
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                                                  • Beelzebubzy
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                                                    • 06-06-11
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                                                    #60
                                                    Santos in Round 3 +3000
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                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                      • 01-31-13
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                      Santos in Round 3 +3000

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                                                      • Skel
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                                                        • 03-04-14
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                        Santos in Round 3 +3000
                                                        Where is that? The highest I've seen it is +1700
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                                                        • Dwil125
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                                                          #63
                                                          Missed brandao by sub at +420. Just took it at +220
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                                                          • Beelzebubzy
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                                                            • 06-06-11
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Skel
                                                            Where is that? The highest I've seen it is +1700
                                                            I move lines.
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                                                            • Skel
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                                                              • 03-04-14
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Dwil125
                                                              Missed brandao by sub at +420. Just took it at +220
                                                              Yeah, it was at 450 yesterday. I went to play it then passed after seeing the drop.
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                                                              • Dwil125
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                                                                #66
                                                                Anyone like Villante by decision over Fabio?
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                                                                • Skel
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                                                                  • 03-04-14
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                  I move lines.
                                                                  It opened at +1400 and bestfightodds.com doesn't have it moving above +1700 (what it is now).
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                                                                  • Dwil125
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                                                                    • 11-08-12
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Skel
                                                                    Yeah, it was at 450 yesterday. I went to play it then passed after seeing the drop.
                                                                    Yesterday? I was checking Bfo on and off and didn't see the extra props come out.
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                                                                    • Skel
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                                                                      • 03-04-14
                                                                      • 1284

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Here are my bets so far:

                                                                      2.4 units on Parke by decision at -120 to win 2 units
                                                                      .5 units on Parke points handicap -3.5 at +200 to win 1 unit
                                                                      1 unit on Henderson by decision at +605 to win 6.05 units
                                                                      .5 units on Maldonado wins in R3 at +2100 to win 10.5 units
                                                                      .5 units on Jason wins by submission at +550 to win 2.75 units
                                                                      3 units on Rua + Maldonado/Villante starts R2 to win 2.16 units
                                                                      3 units on Maldonado/Villante starts R2 + Brandao ITD to win 2.93 units
                                                                      4 units on Maldonado/Villante GTD + Not Santos by KO/TKO to win 2.76 units
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                                                                      • Beelzebubzy
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                                                                        • 06-06-11
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Skel
                                                                        It opened at +1400 and bestfightodds.com doesn't have it moving above +1700 (what it is now).
                                                                        Que?

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