UFC 170: Rousey vs. McMann (February 22, 2014)

[Vaughany]

Wonderboy still Evens on Boylesports my Euro niggz. Also Rory Mac is -225 still

[Vaughany]

Anyone got a link to the countdown show? We dont get FS1 up here in teh canadas.

hmm cant see it...Uncle Dana will probably start charging for them sooner or later! Only this so far...

[Beelzebubzy]

Will gsp be in the corner of rory

also will there be performance of te night bets

[Vaughany]

Will gsp be in the corner of rory

also will there be performance of te night bets

eee busy doin ayhuasca wit dan 'ardee

[Thor4140]

i dont think so. Im actually betting rory because he doesnt get taken down easily. Therefor he wins easily. Easily Thor...easily.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKivRtrgCs

He doesn't get taken down easily but he has a knack for getting taken down and this isnt the guy to let u take u down. I won a lot of money on Rory except his last fight but this weakness has stalled my wagers. Heck i think Ellenberger shot once the whole fight and took him down. If he would have taken him down in round two he prolly wins the fight. Pyle took him down rather easily. I think even Lawler took him down but not sure. I think these JU jitz guys who can take ya down against elite guys, just do enuf to win rounds. They rarely submit guys anymore. Rory isn't the greatest off his back either. Terrific on top tho. Im not betting the fight either way. Heck Rory might come out like an animal for all i know but Maia is no slouch and a guy u are just gonna run over.

[Thor4140]

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[eligibletackle]

+1, Thor.


short analysis - Maia at 170 only warrants dogs odds like these vs few WWs, RoMac is not one of them


longer analysis - Maia has shown this freak aggressive style at 170. I dunno if it's b/c he's bigger or faster at the weight - but he's clearly sprouted a ton of confidence since the drop down. MacDonald, like any Zahabi trained fighter up against a 'specialist', will be conservative to a fault. Maia has taken down arguably stronger WWs (Story) and WWs with a stronger wrestling acumen (Fitch) than MacDonald. If MacDonald was still a bit reckless w/ his offensive approach I'd feel differently but it seems too probable that he's going to go in there with a basic "fight not to lose & avoid grappling" gameplan and I don't think that's sufficient to stop a jitz maverick like Maia that has been hopping on everyone's back like sometype of deranged lemur.

[Beelzebubzy]

I don't like the new countdown format

john Morgan is gettin huge

[GunShard]

[Thor4140]

+1, Thor.


short analysis - Maia at 170 only warrants dogs odds like these vs few WWs, RoMac is not one of them


longer analysis - Maia has shown this freak aggressive style at 170. I dunno if it's b/c he's bigger or faster at the weight - but he's clearly sprouted a ton of confidence since the drop down. MacDonald, like any Zahabi trained fighter up against a 'specialist', will be conservative to a fault. Maia has taken down arguably stronger WWs (Story) and WWs with a stronger wrestling acumen (Fitch) than MacDonald. If MacDonald was still a bit reckless w/ his offensive approach I'd feel differently but it seems too probable that he's going to go in there with a basic "fight not to lose & avoid grappling" gameplan and I don't think that's sufficient to stop a jitz maverick like Maia that has been hopping on everyone's back like sometype of deranged lemur.

Yeah i basically see it this way also. Maia will lose to big time wrestlers who try to just smother him and avoid the subs. Rory doesn't have this style. Interesting fight but no way could i lay these kinds of odds with Rory. I have in the past but not this time.

[Thor4140]

I can't wait for this card to be over. Every day something about Rousey. So tired of looking at her. Talk about over saturation. I wonder if the ufc did half of this for other cards they might sell a few more PPV instead of full bore with Rousey.

[Dwil125]

I can't wait for this card to be over. Every day something about Rousey. So tired of looking at her. Talk about over saturation. I wonder if the ufc did half of this for other cards they might sell a few more PPV instead of full bore with Rousey.

Bellator is about to be back too, In addition to a ufc card every saturday for these next 4 weeks

[bjpenn85]

Worst case scenario is a decision, maia always goes to decision. I dont care if he is at 170 pounds, rory is strong as hell so its basically like hes an 185er. So, after rory gets taken down in the first round where he maybe loses slighty, ever so slightly. Maia will struggle in round 2 and round 3. Maybe closer than i expect, maybe closer than i like. But rory should be hungry and ready against this one trick pony. I understand some want to lay off at these odds, its not great, but from a stylistical standpoint after round 1, this is a nightmare matchup for maia considering athleticism, speed, strength, striking, cardio just all around not a fight for maia.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Bellator is about to be back too, In addition to a ufc card every saturday for these next 4 weeks

[Thor4140]

Worst case scenario is a decision, maia always goes to decision. I dont care if he is at 170 pounds, rory is strong as hell so its basically like hes an 185er. So, after rory gets taken down in the first round where he maybe loses slighty, ever so slightly. Maia will struggle in round 2 and round 3. Maybe closer than i expect, maybe closer than i like. But rory should be hungry and ready against this one trick pony. I understand some want to lay off at these odds, its not great, but from a stylistical standpoint after round 1, this is a nightmare matchup for maia considering athleticism, speed, strength, striking, cardio just all around not a fight for maia.

Maia striking has improved greatly. Rory's is okay nothing to be super confident with. When he had a chance to strike with Chel Mills he decided that wasn't the best route after getting clipped. Lawler almost knocked him out and Penn got some decent shots in for a 145 pounder.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

I can't wait for this card to be over. Every day something about Rousey. So tired of looking at her. Talk about over saturation. I wonder if the ufc did half of this for other cards they might sell a few more PPV instead of full bore with Rousey.

Get use to it kid. Rousey is the biggest star the UFC has! Rousey is going to retire undefeated! Rousey will star in The Athena Project. Sider along with anyone else who is foolish enough to bet against her will lose! We should all pitch in to buy Sider some bus passes after he loses all his money as well as his car. Wish I could see the expression on his face after Rousey arm bars McCann.

[Vaughany]

[PunisherIND]

damn tyson griffin looking big

[Thor4140]

Get use to it kid. Rousey is the biggest star the UFC has! Rousey is going to retire undefeated! Rousey will star in The Athena Project. Sider along with anyone else who is foolish enough to bet against her will lose! We should all pitch in to buy Sider some bus passes after he loses all his money as well as his car. Wish I could see the expression on his face after Rousey arm bars McCann.

i will tell ya what i need to get used ta. Ufc declining at a rapid rate. They desperately need a big card to get the fans interest back. All the friends i use to watch it with are pretty much gone now. Dana act is getting old and the way the top brass is getting greedy is taking a toll. There is a reason the unions hate the Fertitas. They pay shit just like they are trying to do in the ufc. Greed rears its ugly head when it comes to this group.

[Dwil125]

cormier fastest ko of the night +450?

[Ron_Paul_2012]

i will tell ya what i need to get used ta. Ufc declining at a rapid rate. They desperately need a big card to get the fans interest back. All the friends i use to watch it with are pretty much gone now. Dana act is getting old and the way the top brass is getting greedy is taking a toll. There is a reason the unions hate the Fertitas. They pay shit just like they are trying to do in the ufc. Greed rears its ugly head when it comes to this group.

I don't agree that the UFC is rapidly declining world wide. However, everything else you said I agree with 100%. The UFC brass made a horrible PR blunder when they sued some of their fans for clicking on a link to watch a stream. They are definitely too greedy & it turns a lot of people off. If Bjorn Rebney wasn't such an unlikable prick I would be rooting for Bellator.

[NunyaBidness]

cormier fastest ko of the night +450?

I like Pyle +650 here.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

I like Pyle +650 here.

[Thor4140]

I don't agree that the UFC is rapidly declining world wide. However, everything else you said I agree with 100%. The UFC brass made a horrible PR blunder when they sued some of their fans for clicking on a link to watch a stream. They are definitely too greedy & it turns a lot of people off. If Bjorn Rebney wasn't such an unlikable prick I would be rooting for Bellator.

i used to watch it with about five friends. If Sunday i call one and say "did u see the Comier fight last night" They will say "who did he fight" Something has to be done. These fighters who have found a set of balls and talking about this pathetic pay scale, are damaging Dana's cred. His big mouth isn't doing anyone any favors either. Heck, i like Dana and feel he is head and shoulders above any sports commissioner out there but his act is getting old with a lot of people.

[latarianmilton]

Maia striking has improved greatly. Rory's is okay nothing to be super confident with. When he had a chance to strike with Chel Mills he decided that wasn't the best route after getting clipped. Lawler almost knocked him out and Penn got some decent shots in for a 145 pounder.

thor, maiia striking is horrendous, did u saw him fight shields? he does not stand a chance vs rory on the feet.
still ,im not paying the juice on rory because he is mentally weak.
im only playing koch and davis this time

[Thor4140]

thor, maiia striking is horrendous, did u saw him fight shields? he does not stand a chance vs rory on the feet.
still ,im not paying the juice on rory because he is mentally weak.
im only playing koch and davis this time

Yes, it isn't anything to say wow about but the first time i saw him he was pitiful. He at least has improved in this area compared to others who fight the same way fight after fight. Rory hands are a bit overrated. They are better than Maia but how much better?

[mmaed]

Maias hands might be decent enough for him to get inside and land a takedown.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

Yes, it isn't anything to say wow about but the first time i saw him he was pitiful. He at least has improved in this area compared to others who fight the same way fight after fight. Rory hands are a bit overrated. They are better than Maia but how much better?

rory is far more technical but maia has improved...in a pure striking match id easily favor rory w/o thinking twice

[FightFightFight]

I like Pyle +650 here.

Pyle will get kod before that. Go with Cormier.

[Dwil125]

I like Pyle +650 here.

I added some on pyle too. Is it a bad move throwing these into parlays since the payouts are already big? I two teamed it with Johnny Hendricks.

[Dwil125]

Pyle will get kod before that. Go with Cormier.

Not sure if serious.. I took Dc also. Waldburger isn't knocking out anyone though.

[NunyaBidness]

Not sure if serious.. I took Dc also. Waldburger isn't knocking out anyone though.

He almost Kod Catone.

[NunyaBidness]

I added some on pyle too. Is it a bad move throwing these into parlays since the payouts are already big? I two teamed it with Johnny Hendricks.

If you're into parlays you should parlay ALL of your picks together in tiny round robins, if you think they are +EV. + EV x +EV = more EV than +ev + +ev.

[Thor4140]

Sider if this is true and i wouldn't believe these line makers if they said the sky was blue McMann has no shot at a decision. Needs a finish to win. I would think late money would be on Rousey. This guy prolly adjusted the line because of what has been said here and it wasn't money. Who knows.

The main event of UFC 170 is a five-round title fight between UFC women’s bantamweight champion “Rowdy” Ronda Rousey and Sara McMann.

The current betting line lists Rousey as a -450 betting favorite (while McMann is a +400 underdog. MMA oddsmaker Nick Kalikas originally opened up Rousey at -705 and McMann at +435, meaning the betting public has been wagering on the underdog McMann.

Rousey (8-0) is regarded by many as the premier female mixed martial artist on the planet. The 27 year old is undefeated in her pro MMA career with all wins coming by way of armbar submission, including seven inside the first round. Considering Rousey is improving with every fight, it’s hard to say who’s going to take her crown. This weekend at UFC 170, Rousey is finally fighting a grappler on her level and the fight is going to ultimately come down to which one is stronger and whether or not Rousey’s judo trumps McMann’s wrestling.

[Vaughany]

He almost Kod Catone.

He also dropped Ebersole if I recall correctly in first round