UFC Fight For the Troops 3 (November 06, 2013)

**Vaughany** · 11-05-13, 09:34 AM

I'd lean Rivera because Roop is very hittable and I think he could walk right in to one of Rivera's bombs. Roop is quite smart at implementing a gameplan though and will mix it up with takedown attempts unlike Rivera who is purely a kick-boxer

**Beelzebubzy** · 11-05-13, 09:54 AM

So it's just a lean not a pick or lock

**Vaughany** · 11-05-13, 12:16 PM

Semi lean semi pick, quarter lock

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-05-13, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

I'd lean Rivera because Roop is very hittable and I think he could walk right in to one of Rivera's bombs. Roop is quite smart at implementing a gameplan though and will mix it up with takedown attempts unlike Rivera who is purely a kick-boxer

I like a juiced up Rivera as well. However, there is no telling whether or not he will come into the fight juiced to the gills since he has now been caught once before. And Roop survived a first round attack from a juiced to the gills (18 to 1 ratio) Brian Bowles. He survived then came back to win. Too many unknown's in this match. I plan on staying away from this one.

**cheeese** · 11-05-13, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Semi lean semi pick, quarter lock

I like your confidence. Tailing this.

**Hannibal** · 11-05-13, 02:52 PM

Roop $$$$
Everyone counts roop out cause he looks so ugly and skinny. He'd have a lot more fans and his usual lines would be like 50 pts higher if he didnt have such a weird looking body. But thqt weird body gives him am edge and Roop is a tough fight for anyone at 135

MD · 11-05-13, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Hannibal

Roop $$$$
Everyone counts roop out cause he looks so ugly and skinny. He'd have a lot more fans and his usual lines would be like 50 pts higher if he didnt have such a weird looking body. But thqt weird body gives him am edge and Roop is a tough fight for anyone at 135

I agree he should be slightly favoured. I favoured Rivera yesterday, but after rewatching some tape I think that Roop should be around -115ish. Roop will never be a threat to the top of the division as long as he refuses to move his head. He's a technical striker who's incredibly vulnerable to wild, looping hooks; only reason he isn't a big favourite against Rivera, who is pretty bad in his own right.

**Beelzebubzy** · 11-05-13, 03:48 PM

No chin. Don't know if his clinch game is stron enough to take down Rivera. I think Rivera will be too quick for him

**Hannibal** · 11-05-13, 03:50 PM

True, his head movement is lacking but his reach and distance often make up for it. Its the guys that can close huge distances while striking that manage to give him trouble. Guys like cub, hominick, wineland. Rivera does not have that ability.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-05-13, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by MD

I agree he should be slightly favoured. I favoured Rivera yesterday, but after rewatching some tape I think that Roop should be around -115ish. Roop will never be a threat to the top of the division as long as he refuses to move his head. He's a technical striker who's incredibly vulnerable to wild, looping hooks; only reason he isn't a big favourite against Rivera, who is pretty bad in his own right.

Flip Flopper.

**reigle9** · 11-05-13, 05:34 PM

Think Roop's last win might be getting overrated. Tough fight to bet, and like I used to tell people on my last forum, it's not like you have to bet every fight. I'll take the Cisco KO if the line is good enough.

MD · 11-05-13, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Hannibal

True, his head movement is lacking but his reach and distance often make up for it. Its the guys that can close huge distances while striking that manage to give him trouble. Guys like cub, hominick, wineland. Rivera does not have that ability.

I don't think his distance makes up for it at all. Who has tried to get in on Roop and failed? Brian Bowles almost KO'd Roop, and he is not a good striker. Cub resorted to just bumrushing Roop and throwing hooks. I like Roop here too, but it's a very winnable fight for Rivera. I expect Rivera to have the wrestling edge, too, due to his strength.

**Hannibal** · 11-05-13, 06:50 PM

Zombie couldnt get in on roop. Zombie is pretty long for a fw, and he throws very nice long and straight punches. He couldn't even touch roop that fight.
Bowles didnt do shit.
I also think roop is deceptively strong in the clinch. He uses his leverage well. Everyone underestimates his strength fron just looking at his body type.

**mirinquads** · 11-05-13, 07:08 PM

Any thoughts on Yves v Mediros? Incline to play Yves, he's honestly looked sharp in his outings though he's getting old. He did better in his last fight than I thought he would. These two will likely strike..

**Thor4140** · 11-05-13, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Any thoughts on Yves v Mediros? Incline to play Yves, he's honestly looked sharp in his outings though he's getting old. He did better in his last fight than I thought he would. These two will likely strike..

according to sideloader his life is almost over

MD · 11-05-13, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Hannibal

Zombie couldnt get in on roop. Zombie is pretty long for a fw, and he throws very nice long and straight punches. He couldn't even touch roop that fight.
Bowles didnt do shit.
I also think roop is deceptively strong in the clinch. He uses his leverage well. Everyone underestimates his strength fron just looking at his body type.

He staggered Roop badly near the start of R1, knocked him down and almost KO'd him at the end of the round, then almost choked him out after that.

**mmaed** · 11-05-13, 08:30 PM

Im liking Lorenz larkin a lot. He should be the much better striker and very hard for Camozzi to take down. Im also liking Yoel. I think he will be very good at 185 pounds. I am just a little worried Ronny Markes might catch him with a submission, maybe even a punch. I am also liking some of the distance props in the kennedy/natal fight. Anyone seeing a stoppage in this one?

**mmaed** · 11-05-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by MD

He staggered Roop badly near the start of R1, knocked him down and almost KO'd him at the end of the round, then almost choked him out after that.

Yeah then Bowles gassed allowing Roop to get the finish. Reuban Duran was catching Roop as well. Then he stopped trying to strike with Roop and started trying to wrestle him and failed. He really is very hittable. I would think Duran should win the standup fairly handily but like everyone has been saying he has a nice reach advantage and he can be pretty effective pushing guys up against the fence. Hes just a flat out big guy at 135. I wouldn't be comfortable betting him though. Rivera or nothing. IMO theres too good a chance Roop gets dropped. Hes been rocked/dropped/tko'd in his last three fights. Another thing to consider. Rivera knocked out Figueroa. That guy is really frickin tough. Oh and lastly, wiki has Figueroa listed as five foot nine. I don't know if its true but if it is that will mean roop will have less height/reach advantage than he is accustomed to at 135. I think I am talking myself into a River bet.

**beaver4100** · 11-05-13, 08:38 PM

Glad to see you back in here JC...you liking anyone else this week?

**Hannibal** · 11-05-13, 10:32 PM

lol yup i dont know what i was talking about
rivera was a lot worse in my head
actually watched his fights. he could easily knock roop the fck out

**sideloaded** · 11-05-13, 10:44 PM

Nunes +100 does anyone know why ???

**getlucky2win** · 11-05-13, 10:56 PM

Lol. I was gonna ask u that. Just a small bet for me right now

**reigle9** · 11-05-13, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

Nunes +100 does anyone know why ???

I was hoping someone would be on this side. That kickboxing broad looked like shit to me. Of course, every girl I've ever seen try to fight looks like shit to me, but she did more for being a "champion".

MD · 11-05-13, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

Nunes +100 does anyone know why ???

If she comes to grapple (which she will), she has a pretty decent chance. It helps that she's aggressive, as De Randamie has pretty good takedown defence in the center of the cage, but she has a terrible sense of leverage (in a grappling sense) against the cage and it makes her pretty easy to take down.

I 'capped Randamie at around -135, so I'm betting her, but it's a very close fight and I wouldn't be surprised to see Nunes win.

**sideloaded** · 11-05-13, 11:01 PM

i dont know, nunes should win this easy. only way to lose is via knockout and Germaine couldn't knock out HIROKO who is an old dominatrix from japan.

MD · 11-05-13, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

i dont know, nunes should win this easy. only way to lose is via knockout and Germaine couldn't knock out HIROKO who is an old dominatrix from japan.

I actually think de Randamie has a good chance of picking her apart to a decision.

Do you think Nunes grapplef-cks her here?

**sideloaded** · 11-05-13, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by MD

If she comes to grapple (which she will), she has a pretty decent chance. It helps that she's aggressive, as De Randamie has pretty good takedown defence in the center of the cage, but she has a terrible sense of leverage (in a grappling sense) against the cage and it makes her pretty easy to take down.

I 'capped Randamie at around -135, so I'm betting her, but it's a very close fight and I wouldn't be surprised to see Nunes win.

you say the strangest shit

she definitely coming to grapple dude. did you see the weigh ins and wrestling stance? and all the videos from her camp grappling. It's not a close fight at all and no way Randamie should be a favorite on any planet.

**sideloaded** · 11-05-13, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by MD

I actually think de Randamie has a good chance of picking her apart to a decision.

Do you think Nunes grapplef-cks her here?

i also have a thor theory that the ufc is actually marketing nunes compared to randamie who they never interview before a fight and nunes has quite a few youtube videos on the ufc channel

**Noleafclover** · 11-05-13, 11:33 PM

Nunes' gas tank is a major worry. Question is if GDR can take the second. She's got a decent controlling guard, but it depends when the refs stand them up.

**goodfellas433** · 11-06-13, 12:09 AM

I like a bunch of dogs here. Nunes, Yves and Houston. I think Houston is being brought in to deliver a nasty first round ko.
I like both female dogs here actually. Bitches fits

**Vaughany** · 11-06-13, 04:11 AM

**reigle9** · 11-06-13, 04:32 AM

I don't see Cisco caring about the reach. KO for me.

**reigle9** · 11-06-13, 04:34 AM

But more importantly, what's up with that whore letting her mom dress her up like a whore to attract men? I wasn't sure if I should get a boner or send money to save her.

**Das Jax** · 11-06-13, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Any thoughts on Yves v Mediros? Incline to play Yves, he's honestly looked sharp in his outings though he's getting old. He did better in his last fight than I thought he would. These two will likely strike..

I like Yves as well. Mediros probably has a better chin at this point in his career, but I don't find any aspect of his striking or his ground work all that impressive. Yves on the other hand is incredibly well rounded and, despite his age, has number of tricks up his sleeve. If Yves shows up even half as hungry as he did the last time around, I think this is his to lose. You can put me down for two units on Yves and a Filkins on Yves ITD.

Edit: Eh, scratch the Filkins... I don't think the price is high enough to warrant the play. I think this likely goes the distance.

**Vaughany** · 11-06-13, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by cheeese

I like your confidence. Tailing this.

I've just up-graded it to quarter lean, quarter pick, semi-lock now so go all in couzin