Attn: Luca Fury and Gabe

**Brian Hemminger** · 12-07-13, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Speaking of taking the high road. Do you feel there is a conflict of interests with selling picks for lines you yourself have set? Sub question, who do you think Nick is scamming, 5dimes or his own customers? Sub-question B, if it is 5dimes, do you think Tony would have him killed if he realized?

I don't think it's that big of an issue. He sets the lines (which are usually very solid) and then he offers bets on what he thinks can make you money based on his own personal feelings and how much the lines have moved. The betting public shifts the lines after he sets them, so I don't see an issue with him offering advice on bets to make.

Besides, all the betting sites are making plenty of money. The money Kalikas is helping his premium members make is likely a drop in the bucket. If his service gets super popular and he's still doing very well, then that could be an issue in the future, but as of right now it's not.

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-10-13, 02:47 PM

@GabeKillianMMA: @Shaun_Pierce @FightOdds @MMAOddsBreaker @FurysFightPicks luca, try to keep ur trolls caged in, instead of sending them out to get dirty 4 u

**Vaughany** · 12-10-13, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

@GabeKillianMMA: @Shaun_Pierce @FightOdds @MMAOddsBreaker @FurysFightPicks luca, try to keep ur trolls caged in, instead of sending them out to get dirty 4 u

hahaah Because Couzin Gaberz thought Mighty Mouse/Benavidez was only 3 rounds!

Pierce ‏@Shaun_Pierce 6h
. @FightOdds @GabeKillianMMA @MMAOddsBreaker ah.....isn't this a 5 round fight?!? LOL! i'll stick with @FurysFightPicks

**Noleafclover** · 12-10-13, 08:34 PM

Really? Well mighty mouse fights 3 rders all the time.....

MD · 12-10-13, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

hahaah Because Couzin Gaberz thought Mighty Mouse/Benavidez was only 3 rounds!

Pierce ‏@Shaun_Pierce 6h
. @FightOdds @GabeKillianMMA @MMAOddsBreaker ah.....isn't this a 5 round fight?!? LOL! i'll stick with @FurysFightPicks

Did he edit the article or something? It says five rounds everywhere.

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-10-13, 09:05 PM

Most likely. He doesn't make many mistakes but once you call him out he fixes them

nor does he lie

**gabe** · 12-10-13, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

hahaah Because Couzin Gaberz thought Mighty Mouse/Benavidez was only 3 rounds!

Pierce ‏@Shaun_Pierce 6h
. @FightOdds @GabeKillianMMA @MMAOddsBreaker ah.....isn't this a 5 round fight?!? LOL! i'll stick with @FurysFightPicks

How did I think it was 3 rounds if my pick is Benavidez by 48-47? That = 3 rounds to you?

I've written "...has good conditioning and will be able to go all three rounds" so many times, it was muscle memory.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 12-12-13, 08:08 PM

oh boy, Gabe makes his audio debut?

**BIGDAY** · 12-12-13, 09:13 PM

Unreal.

Gaberz!!

This Brad guy needs some practice though.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 12-12-13, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Unreal.

Gaberz!!

This Brad guy needs some practice though.

they both do, that was tough to listen to

**Mercersux** · 12-13-13, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

oh boy, Gabe makes his audio debut?

First minute in these clowns say "we've got quite a bit to talk about today so we're not gonna bore you" then they proceed to make an almost 90 minute long "Boring" podcast. Great job guys...

**Noleafclover** · 12-13-13, 03:50 AM

Is it just me that thinks, it would be kinda nice if there was a TINY bit more to say in the ufc forum than gabe sucks gabe sucks blah blah blah.

**Vaughany** · 12-13-13, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Noleafclover

Is it just me that thinks, it would be kinda nice if there was a TINY bit more to say in the ufc forum than gabe sucks gabe sucks blah blah blah.

Nah jus you!

**reigle9** · 12-13-13, 04:48 AM

I used to hate Luca cause of his pretentious tone (and that's just who is he), but he's tried to back 'er down a bit. I also hated him cause at one point he said he liked tennis more than mma so I just stopped listening to him at that point. But, I think he gets it now. He knows what he's looking at so he's definitely worth listening to.

I like the at odds guys too. It's easy to sit back and shit on people, I know if I gave effort I could do a podcast with a bunch of winners but it's hard to smoothly talk about. Chances are the people shit talking them would stutter like a retard trying to do one.

**mirinquads** · 12-13-13, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Noleafclover

Is it just me that thinks, it would be kinda nice if there was a TINY bit more to say in the ufc forum than gabe sucks gabe sucks blah blah blah.

Just you bro

**NunyaBidness** · 12-13-13, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Noleafclover

Is it just me that thinks, it would be kinda nice if there was a TINY bit more to say in the ufc forum than gabe sucks gabe sucks blah blah blah.

Still you.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 12-13-13, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Noleafclover

Is it just me that thinks, it would be kinda nice if there was a TINY bit more to say in the ufc forum than gabe sucks gabe sucks blah blah blah.

Sorry bro. It truly is just you. But for the record I like all of the MMA odds type show's. I just think that Gabe comes across as someone who needs a lot more practice. He gives one word responses & his timing is way off. Not the end of the world. Hopefully he gets better.

**Vaughany** · 12-13-13, 12:50 PM

Ha i think Gaberz voice is cool as fuuck to be fair! Proper American-Armo!

**Vaughany** · 12-15-13, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

And Fury loses another -4.6 units on this event.

Nobodies actually paying this clown are they?

**PunisherIND** · 12-15-13, 09:41 AM

UFC on FOX 9: Johnson vs Benavidez 2

1-5 for -13.68 units

Wins

4 unit parlay: Joe Lauzon & Chad Mendes -107
Losses

2 units: Danny Castillo +255
2 units: Michael McDonald +125
4 units: Court McGee -115
4 unit parlay: Sam Stout & Scott Jorgenson -107

**NunyaBidness** · 12-15-13, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

UFC on FOX 9: Johnson vs Benavidez 2

1-5 for -13.68 units

Wins

4 unit parlay: Joe Lauzon & Chad Mendes -107
Losses

2 units: Danny Castillo +255
2 units: Michael McDonald +125
4 units: Court McGee -115
4 unit parlay: Sam Stout & Scott Jorgenson -107

So what's that bring us to since Kalikas dropped his ass? Like -30u? Also minus whatever you lost paying this dude.

Only tout I'd pay for is the Law offices of Cohen, Cohen, & Pun. That dude called everything last night. I'd opt out of the boxing service though...

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-15-13, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

UFC on FOX 9: Johnson vs Benavidez 2

1-5 for -13.68 units

Wins

4 unit parlay: Joe Lauzon & Chad Mendes -107
Losses

2 units: Danny Castillo +255
2 units: Michael McDonald +125
4 units: Court McGee -115
4 unit parlay: Sam Stout & Scott Jorgenson -107

how is that -13? Is my math getting this bad? Karma is biting me in the ass for Teasing Gaberz

**Brian Hemminger** · 12-15-13, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

how is that -13? Is my math getting this bad? Karma is biting me in the ass for Teasing Gaberz

I think they forgot to include Bowling.

**NunyaBidness** · 12-15-13, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Brian Hemminger

I think they forgot to include Bowling.

penetrate touts though, amirite?

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-15-13, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

penetrate touts though, amirite?

So did Gabe teaching luca the trick of leaving out plays?

**NunyaBidness** · 12-15-13, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

So did Gabe teaching luca the trick of leaving out plays?

Your english is getting a little nutty, and with your short term memory loss, I'm wondering if maybe you have had a stroke that needs to be treated?

Pun left off the Bowling play, record is correct.

**PunisherIND** · 12-15-13, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

So what's that bring us to since Kalikas dropped his ass? Like -30u? Also minus whatever you lost paying this dude.

Only tout I'd pay for is the Law offices of Cohen, Cohen, & Pun. That dude called everything last night. I'd opt out of the boxing service though...

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-15-13, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Your english is getting a little nutty, and with your short term memory loss, I'm wondering if maybe you have had a stroke that needs to be treated?

Pun left off the Bowling play, record is correct.

Wow. My English is getting as bad as my memory now.

**PunisherIND** · 12-15-13, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Your english is getting a little nutty, and with your short term memory loss, I'm wondering if maybe you have had a stroke that needs to be treated?

Pun left off the Bowling play, record is correct.

oye, pun didnt leave out anything. pun cut and paste

**FightFightFight** · 12-15-13, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Speaking of taking the high road. Do you feel there is a conflict of interests with selling picks for lines you yourself have set? Sub question, who do you think Nick is scamming, 5dimes or his own customers? Sub-question B, if it is 5dimes, do you think Tony would have him killed if he realized?

I give Nick the benefit of the doubt as far as conscious intent goes, but opens Green +170, bets it +140. Opens Laflare +120, bets it even at -120. Overs in benavides and Jorgensen fights the same thing. More often than not seems to be the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him with some busted up legs.

**Sykes** · 12-15-13, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by FightFightFight

I give Nick the benefit of the doubt as far as conscious intent goes, but opens Green +170, bets it +140. Opens Laflare +120, bets it even at -120. Overs in benavides and Jorgensen fights the same thing. More often than not seems to be the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him with some busted up legs.

I think I get this but can you reply in a dummies guide to plz?

**FightFightFight** · 12-15-13, 11:22 PM

If he likes laflare enough to bet him at -120, then why open him as the dog? More profitable for him that way, if the dog line holds, but his answer would be that he felt the public would bet McGee so opened McGee the favorite. That's all assuming that you want balanced betting. Which they shouldn't if he thinks laflare wins. Then they should open laflare a huge favorite so people bet McGee as the dog. ...rambling again. Just seems like he's opening his leans at nice prices for him to bet it. Did he really think people would come in on the under in the Benavidez fight? Doubt it. Not saying he's dishonest CONSCIOUSLY, but is a definite conflict of interest. No question. I'm sure he makes more money betting than he does working for the books, so even moreso.

**FightFightFight** · 12-15-13, 11:29 PM

Where he should be finding bets is where he opens a line where he thinks it should be, like Mendes under at +130, then public bets it to -200! Then he says hey, there's a good bet. That shouldve been +130. Good for the books, good for him. No conflict. Where was that bet?

**FightFightFight** · 12-15-13, 11:40 PM

Have no idea why dimes is paying a guy for this anyways when they ping pong the lines around like they do. Open everything at even and it'll cost you maybe 500 an event in erroneous line openers to get a balanced line. Must pay him peanuts. What they need is a guy like Odessa with some balls to play the market as if he's betting the sportsbooks money and bringing more money in on one side. He may penetrate up the odd line, but he's making someone plenty of money. Bm used to with nick. Why dimes doesn't I don't know. Stupid I'd guess. Go back to the numbers out of a hat system of opening lines.

**FightFightFight** · 12-15-13, 11:41 PM

There. That should do me for forum contributions for another year. Fin.