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  • Sato
    SBR MVP
    • 07-10-12
    • 1201

    #71
    V's anthem...for tonight!
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    • Ron_Paul_2012
      SBR MVP
      • 01-31-13
      • 3953

      #72
      Fury has a new website. I wish him much luck on his new endeavor. Hater's gonna hate but I don't see any of the hater's putting their face on the line & out in the open. These cold & timid souls just hide behind their computer in total anonymity. I give him credit because he is in the arena.

      THE MAN IN THE ARENA: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
      Last edited by Ron_Paul_2012; 11-21-13, 02:06 PM.
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      • Sato
        SBR MVP
        • 07-10-12
        • 1201

        #73
        Its good to be ambitious and go out there...but Luca is just slime. The guys an unstable little dipshit that gets to have some real personal info and he pretends to have some might in the betting underworld. I bet the guy throws in his Casino DVD at night and pops his favorite haribos while watching the flick. Now he opens up a site that competes with a guy that took him in and gave him a platform to make money.
        I felt a little bit of slime leaving my mouth while typing the last sentence.
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        • FightFightFight
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-21-11
          • 594

          #74
          I second the slime notion. Kalikas reputation was the building force there, and he built it, and Luca stole it and Nicks customers, with his computer/media savvy. Now he doesnt have to wait until limits go up to give out picks. He has no adult supervision anymore. Can nurture that ROI with softer early lines. Thats what its all about, right? ROI? Ego? ...Id rather make money than ROI.
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          • omalley21
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-08-10
            • 908

            #75
            Wait is kalikas still running mmaob? I think all the talk on here about the conflict of interest is behind this.
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            • Noleafclover
              SBR MVP
              • 06-06-13
              • 1349

              #76
              V, you really don't need to defend calling him out on misrepresenting himself. It's pretty clear he's just gonna come back with more of the same, change the subject or go ad hominem. He's pathological.

              Shame, he seems like a good capper.. And I do sometimes wonder how much damage this sub-forum has done to him, cause ya'll never stop. But I'm newer here, I don't know why this got the way it is. Prolly because he wouldn't see reason in the first place.
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #77
                ha A lot of it is in jest, it's become more of a comedy routine thing now because it's all happened so often!
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                • Mercersux
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-03-12
                  • 1516

                  #78
                  Gabe is a parody of a successful gambler. He is a comedian after all. Evidently a good actor as well.
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                  • Ron_Paul_2012
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-31-13
                    • 3953

                    #79
                    I don't know either Luca or Gabe but I believe that both are in their early to mid 20's. I think that it's important to remember that when criticizing them.
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                    • Sykes
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-23-12
                      • 2714

                      #80
                      Odds on MD becoming one of the posters for Fury -600
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                      • The iron sheik
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-17-13
                        • 1105

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                        Fury has a new website. I wish him much luck on his new endeavor. Hater's gonna hate but I don't see any of the hater's putting their face on the line & out in the open. These cold & timid souls just hide behind their computer in total anonymity. I give him credit because he is in the arena.

                        THE MAN IN THE ARENA: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
                        Perhaps the "haters" would put their face on the line and out in the open if they wanted money out of other people. Besides, fabricating results is the opposite of putting it out in the open. It's being a snake oil salesman.
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                        • Ron_Paul_2012
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-31-13
                          • 3953

                          #82
                          Originally posted by The iron sheik
                          Perhaps the "haters" would put their face on the line and out in the open if they wanted money out of other people. Besides, fabricating results is the opposite of putting it out in the open. It's being a snake oil salesman.
                          Well I suppose you do have a point about the $ thing. As far as fabricating results. I know Gabe is well known for "getting creative" with his play results. But, I don't recall Luca ever doing that.
                          Last edited by Ron_Paul_2012; 11-22-13, 02:17 PM.
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #83
                            Some more "top-of-the-food chain" results manipulation by my boiii Gaberz!!!!...

                            GABE KILLIAN’S TUF 18 FINALE BETTING RECAP AND RESULTS DEC 2, 2013



                            The Ultimate Fighter 18 finale is now behind us, and another season of the reality series is in the bag. It was the first card in UFC history to feature three women’s fights on the main card. Let’s take a look at how our bets did…
                            Things started off with a loss on a play recommended on Twitter, as Ryan Benoit (+110) came up short against Josh Sampo in a Fight of the Night award-winning battle. We dropped 1u there, but immediately made it back in the next bout, as Sean Spencer (-210) cashed for 1u, when he defeated Drew Dober by unanimous decision.
                            It was all even going into the third bout of the evening, where heavyweights Walter Harris and Jared Rosholt collided in their promotional debuts. I recommended a 2u play on Harris, which we lost, because he came short in a decision. I feel he was robbed, as I scored the first two rounds for him; the first round could have been a 10-8. The good news is, I had recommended Rosholt by Decision (+400) on Twitter to hedge the Harris bet, as I felt that was his best shot at a victory, and loved the odds. Rightfully so, as it was down to +230 the next time I took a look. With the Rosholt decision win cashing for 4u, we walk away from that fight up 2u, and also +2u on the night.
                            Next, in a featherweight contest, we lost a recommended Twitter bet on Tom Niinimaki wins inside distance (+375) for 1u, as he won a decision, and was unable to find a finish. That was followed up by another featherweight match-up, in which we cashed a bet on Akira Corassani (+145) for 5.8u, but ended up losing 3.3u on the Over 2.5 (-110) prop. Maximo Blanco caught Corassani with a knee, and after what seemed to be a fine acting job on behalf of Corassani, referee Mario Yamasaki stopped the fight and awarded him the win via disqualification. We stepped away from that fight up 2.5u, and +3.5u on the night.
                            The main card kicked off, and we cashed a monster play on Raquel Pennington (+280) for 5u, but unfortunately, we lost 6.75u on the Under 2.5 (-130) prop. We also lost 6.85u on Pennington wins inside distance, and 1.85u on Fight won’t go the distance. At the end of this fight, we were in the red for 6.95u, so things started to not look so good. I was confident Pennington would win, but I shouldn’t have gone so big on the ITD and under. I was expecting a knockout, but knew there was a chance she wouldn’t fight to her full potential, as I expected some Octagon jitters from her.
                            In the next fight of the evening, we had Jessamyn Duke (-210) as part of a two-team parlay for +118, so that stayed alive, but unfortunately, we dropped 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195). In the TUF 18 bantamweight tournament finals, we had a play on Chris Holdsworth (-210), as part of a two-team parlay with Duke for +118 for 5.6u, which cashed beautifully, as Holdsworth sunk in a rear naked choke in the second round to become the TUF season 18 winner.
                            We had a play on Jessica Rakozcy (+200) when she took on Julianna Pena in the TUF season 18 women’s bantamweight finals. Pena mounted Rakozcy, and rained down punches and elbows, until referee Mario Yamasaki stepped in to stop the fight with one second remaining in the round. I personally felt the ref could have let it go one more second just to see what Rakozcy had in the next round, and if it was going to be stopped, he should have stopped it 30 seconds earlier when Pena was landing the more damaging blows. This one hurt. We lost 3u on Rakozcy and 9.1u on Over 2.5 rounds (-130).
                            Going into the main event of the evening, we are -14.45u, and are now having a terrible night. Nate Diaz knocked out Gray Maynard in the first round, and immediately made me regret not pulling the trigger on Diaz by KO (+751). I looked at that prop for days, and came close to hitting it every time! I thought Diaz might get a submission, and I would be kicking myself, so I decided to play it safe and take Diaz wins inside distance (+335), instead of the KO or submission props. Most Diaz backers thought we would get a sub, but I was feeling more confident about a knockout. I cashed the Diaz ITD prop for 3.35u, but my main play on the fight, Gray Maynard -3.5 lost for 3.5u. I assumed it’d be either Maynard 30-27 or Diaz ITD, and played both sides. I would have ended up slightly profiting, instead of slightly losing on the fight, had I not added a last minute 1u on Maynard via Twitter.
                            We wrapped up the main card being down 14.6u, which would have been brutal. Fortunately, my pick for Fight of the Night,Benoit/Sampo +900 cashed tremendously for 18u, as I had recommended a 2u bet on it. We profited 15u off that prop, since we lost 3u on Rakozcy/Pena FOTN +325, and ultimately ended up finishing the night in the green, +0.4u.
                            I have been waiting for the Australia card to arrive, and it is finally here. I believe UFC Fight Night 33 is going to be a very big night for us, so be sure to keep checking in!

                            Gabe’s FOTN Play: 4u to win 13u on Pena/Rakoczy (+325), and 2u to win 18u on Benoit/Sampo +900



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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #84
                              oh and of course that is not all! Naturally, when one hits his live twitter plays/recommendations they are to be included in a review, such as "I had recommended Rosholt by Decision (+400) on Twitter to hedge the Harris bet, as I felt that was his best shot at a victory, and loved the odds.,,, Rosholt decision win cashing for 4u, we walk away from that fight up 2u, and also +2u on the night." But if on the other hand a live twitter play/recommendation fails such as ... "Adding 1u to win 4u on Rakozcy by Dec +400" then of course that shouldn't be taken in to account in review!!!

                              But wait, unsurprisingly there is more! ...

                              In the next fight of the evening, we had Jessamyn Duke (-210) as part of a two-team parlay for +118, so that stayed alive, but unfortunately, we dropped 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195).

                              Oh, just the 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195) was it Gaberz?...
                              Gabriel Killian@GabeKillianMMA30 Nov
                              Adding: Benoit +110 (1u to win 1.1u), Spencer -215 (2.1u to win 1u), Pennington ITD -105 (5.25u to win 5u), & Duke ITD +195 (2u to win 3.9u)

                              CANT MAKE IT UP!
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #85
                                In before...

                                "GOD YOU ARE SO DUMB, YOU AND MD ARE JUST OBSESSED WITH ME! CLEARLY DUKE ITD WAS A FLIER SO YOU HAVE TO HALF THE STAKE WHICH WAS ACTUALLY STATED"! GOD SUCH A DUMB KID! SERIOUSLY YOU AND MD NEED TO GET A LIFE"!
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                                • Ron_Paul_2012
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-31-13
                                  • 3953

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  oh and of course that is not all! Naturally, when one hits his live twitter plays/recommendations they are to be included in a review, such as "I had recommended Rosholt by Decision (+400) on Twitter to hedge the Harris bet, as I felt that was his best shot at a victory, and loved the odds.,,, Rosholt decision win cashing for 4u, we walk away from that fight up 2u, and also +2u on the night." But if on the other hand a live twitter play/recommendation fails such as ... "Adding 1u to win 4u on Rakozcy by Dec +400" then of course that shouldn't be taken in to account in review!!!

                                  But wait, unsurprisingly there is more! ...

                                  In the next fight of the evening, we had Jessamyn Duke (-210) as part of a two-team parlay for +118, so that stayed alive, but unfortunately, we dropped 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195).

                                  Oh, just the 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195) was it Gaberz?...
                                  Gabriel Killian@GabeKillianMMA30 Nov
                                  Adding: Benoit +110 (1u to win 1.1u), Spencer -215 (2.1u to win 1u), Pennington ITD -105 (5.25u to win 5u), & Duke ITD +195 (2u to win 3.9u)

                                  CANT MAKE IT UP!
                                  Well personally I believe Gabe writing for MMAOddsbreaker is a long running inside joke. After all he is a comedian. Right?
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                    Well personally I believe Gabe writing for MMAOddsbreaker is a long running inside joke. After all he is a comedian. Right?
                                    lol Well it has to be surely?!
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                                    • NunyaBidness
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-26-09
                                      • 9345

                                      #88
                                      Post Divorce Results:

                                      Kalikas: +9.37u
                                      Fury: -2.8u

                                      I guess we know why Fury is half-price.
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                                      • PunisherIND
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-24-11
                                        • 4980

                                        #89
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                                        • gabe
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-12-11
                                          • 7405

                                          #90
                                          Wow, I totally missed that. I thought I recommended 3u on it, I personally only ended up betting 3u on it so I was going off my plays instead of looking at the article... Will have that fixed. Damn.
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                                          • Beelzebubzy
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-06-11
                                            • 6995

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                            Post Divorce Results:

                                            Kalikas: +9.37u
                                            Fury: -2.8u

                                            I guess we know why Fury is half-price.
                                            how come gabers didn't go over in the divorce
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                                            • gabe
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-12-11
                                              • 7405

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                              oh and of course that is not all! Naturally, when one hits his live twitter plays/recommendations they are to be included in a review, such as "I had recommended Rosholt by Decision (+400) on Twitter to hedge the Harris bet, as I felt that was his best shot at a victory, and loved the odds.,,, Rosholt decision win cashing for 4u, we walk away from that fight up 2u, and also +2u on the night." But if on the other hand a live twitter play/recommendation fails such as ... "Adding 1u to win 4u on Rakozcy by Dec +400" then of course that shouldn't be taken in to account in review!!!

                                              But wait, unsurprisingly there is more! ...

                                              In the next fight of the evening, we had Jessamyn Duke (-210) as part of a two-team parlay for +118, so that stayed alive, but unfortunately, we dropped 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195).

                                              Oh, just the 1u on Duke wins inside distance (+195) was it Gaberz?...
                                              Gabriel Killian@GabeKillianMMA30 Nov
                                              Adding: Benoit +110 (1u to win 1.1u), Spencer -215 (2.1u to win 1u), Pennington ITD -105 (5.25u to win 5u), & Duke ITD +195 (2u to win 3.9u)

                                              CANT MAKE IT UP!
                                              sh*t... another mistake... damn, this looks real bad. lol i think i should stop doing these recap articles. i'll have it all fixed.

                                              why not just tell me privately to correct them? lol oh yeah you're obsessed with me and track my every move and look for every chance to put me down
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                                              • MD
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-31-12
                                                • 9728

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                sh*t... another mistake... damn, this looks real bad. lol i think i should stop doing these recap articles. i'll have it all fixed.

                                                why not just tell me privately to correct them?
                                                lol oh yeah you're obsessed with me and track my every move and look for every chance to put me down
                                                Because you lie every time. Jesus.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                                  sh*t... another mistake... damn, this looks real bad. lol i think i should stop doing these recap articles. i'll have it all fixed.

                                                  why not just tell me privately to correct them? lol oh yeah you're obsessed with me and track my every move and look for every chance to put me down
                                                  hahaha for a minute there I thought you were trying to be sincere but then had to go and ruin it!
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by MD
                                                    Because you lie every time. Jesus.
                                                    haaha yeah, why dont we aid him in manipulating results! Let's be a party to it!

                                                    Dont think ol' Gaberz is getting the point
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                                                    • gabe
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                                      Well personally I believe Gabe writing for MMAOddsbreaker is a long running inside joke. After all he is a comedian. Right?
                                                      a joke that has been consistently been making people money for months
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                        how come gabers didn't go over in the divorce
                                                        Gaberz got beef with Fury innit bruv. Fury got one of Kalikas' over-sized baggy shirts and a ball of Gaberz's sweaty pubic hair as part of the divorce settlement instead!!
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                                                        • gabe
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                                                          • 09-12-11
                                                          • 7405

                                                          #98
                                                          "manipulating results" lol or the truth: a simple mistake

                                                          i was off by 2u going off memory for certain plays. i honestly remembered having those for 3u and 1u instead of 4 and 2... why would i bs in the article when i know you and MD are reading my every word and checking on everything???
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                                                          • Beelzebubzy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-06-11
                                                            • 6995

                                                            #99
                                                            So Gaberz is down .6u for this event?
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by gabe
                                                              "manipulating results" lol or the truth: a simple mistake

                                                              i was off by 2u going off memory for certain plays. i honestly remembered having those for 3u and 1u instead of 4 and 2... why would i bs in the article when i know you and MD are reading my every word and checking on everything???
                                                              Been wondering why as well! Perhaps because there is no consequence as a result of it?! You can just keep saying "oh it was an error, I'll change it" and people just think "oh silly ol' Gaberz and his dodgy memory and lack of basic math"!!!

                                                              Most people who do any kind of serious gambling keep some kind of record of their bets in a spreadsheet of some sort. It shouldnt be hard to put in a couple of numbers and have a final plus or minus total!
                                                              Last edited by Vaughany; 12-02-13, 04:13 PM.
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                                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-26-09
                                                                • 9345

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                                "manipulating results" lol or the truth: a simple mistake

                                                                i was off by 2u going off memory for certain plays. i honestly remembered having those for 3u and 1u instead of 4 and 2... why would i bs in the article when i know you and MD are reading my every word and checking on everything???

                                                                Have any of your record keeping mistakes not been in your favor? Seems like they should fall 50/50 on either side.
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                  So Gaberz is down .6u for this event?
                                                                  more like 2.6u or sumin
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                                                                  • MD
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-31-12
                                                                    • 9728

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                                                    "manipulating results" lol or the truth: a simple mistake

                                                                    i was off by 2u going off memory for certain plays. i honestly remembered having those for 3u and 1u instead of 4 and 2... why would i bs in the article when i know you and MD are reading my every word and checking on everything???
                                                                    You say that every time you get called out, but you keep doing it.
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                                                                    • cheeese
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-22-11
                                                                      • 784

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                      Have any of your record keeping mistakes not been in your favor? Seems like they should fall 50/50 on either side.
                                                                      He's just running hot on his mistakes
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                                                                      • MD
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-31-12
                                                                        • 9728

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by cheeese
                                                                        He's just running hot on his mistakes
                                                                        He recommended a 4u mistake on Duke ITD on Twitter. Guy is sharp as a tac.
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