UFC 162 Silva Vs Weidman (July 06, 2013)

[eligibletackle]

Call them out.....i wanna see a fight!!

idk, there were some Silva bettors who thought Silva under -300 vs whoever was an auto-play. Too many pages to read.

Having said that, MD is the worst capper on this board.

:fistpumps to grab & rocky:

[Vaughany]

The commentary here is pretty silly right now.

Chris Weidman didn't knock AS out because he's some GOAT amazing striker. He knocked Silva out because Silva did what Silva ALWAYS does when he doesn't respect his opponents abilities.

To argue that Silva threw the fight, or that Weidman is a great striker shows a complete lack of understanding of variance in MMA. Silva avoids those shots some large percentage of the time, just as he always has, in this universe he got caught. Prior to that moment, Weidman was frustrated, and Silva was on his way to opening up his offense.

The live line coming into the second round was AS -300, after he had LOST round 1, that is the way the momentum was shifting.

Was Silva's plan stupid? Yes! And it was stupid when he did it against Maia, and Bonnar, and everyone else. He could've easily got caught there as well.

If there is a rematch, I would bet Silva at -210 now, when I WOULDN'T have bet him at that price tonight.

Some sense here

[Educ8d Degener8]

F*ck all this nonsense about Spider and Weidman... Tim Kennedy and Edson Barboza... lapdances on the house!

edit... it's that time of night... in lieu of lapdances... beejers.

Hope y'all had as good a time tonight.

[Vaughany]

silva paid the price tonight and so did I, these never had a chance

186496648-1	7/6/13 6:43pm	$1.00	$2,265.47	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1043 Weidman wins by 5 rnd unanimous dec. +1260* vs Any other result
				Win	7/6/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Edgar wins by 3 round decision +115* vs Not Edgar by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1211 Kennedy wins by 3 round decision +160* vs Not Kennedy by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1311 Munoz wins by 3 round decision +275* vs Not Munoz by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1409 Swanson wins inside distance +200* vs Not Swanson inside distance
				Win	7/6/13 9:00pm Props Fighting 1611 Parke wins by 3 round decision +165* vs Not Parke by 3 round decision
186496648-2	7/6/13 6:43pm	$1.00	$1,329.42	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1043 Weidman wins by 5 rnd unanimous dec. +1260* vs Any other result
				Win	7/6/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Edgar wins by 3 round decision +115* vs Not Edgar by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1211 Kennedy wins by 3 round decision +160* vs Not Kennedy by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1311 Munoz wins by 3 round decision +275* vs Not Munoz by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1409 Swanson wins inside distance +200* vs Not Swanson inside distance
				Win	7/6/13 8:00pm Props Fighting 1809 Barboza wins inside distance -180* vs Not Barboza inside distance
186496648-4	7/6/13 6:43pm	$1.00	$1,174.20	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1043 Weidman wins by 5 rnd unanimous dec. +1260* vs Any other result
				Win	7/6/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Edgar wins by 3 round decision +115* vs Not Edgar by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1211 Kennedy wins by 3 round decision +160* vs Not Kennedy by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1311 Munoz wins by 3 round decision +275* vs Not Munoz by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 9:00pm Props Fighting 1611 Parke wins by 3 round decision +165* vs Not Parke by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 8:00pm Props Fighting 1809 Barboza wins inside distance -180* vs Not Barboza inside distance
186496648-7	7/6/13 6:43pm	$1.00	$939.16	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1043 Weidman wins by 5 rnd unanimous dec. +1260* vs Any other result
				Win	7/6/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Edgar wins by 3 round decision +115* vs Not Edgar by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1211 Kennedy wins by 3 round decision +160* vs Not Kennedy by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1409 Swanson wins inside distance +200* vs Not Swanson inside distance
				Win	7/6/13 9:00pm Props Fighting 1611 Parke wins by 3 round decision +165* vs Not Parke by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 8:00pm Props Fighting 1809 Barboza wins inside distance -180* vs Not Barboza inside distance
186496648-11	7/6/13 6:43pm	$1.00	$1,355.01	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1043 Weidman wins by 5 rnd unanimous dec. +1260* vs Any other result
				Win	7/6/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Edgar wins by 3 round decision +115* vs Not Edgar by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1311 Munoz wins by 3 round decision +275* vs Not Munoz by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1409 Swanson wins inside distance +200* vs Not Swanson inside distance
				Win	7/6/13 9:00pm Props Fighting 1611 Parke wins by 3 round decision +165* vs Not Parke by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 8:00pm Props Fighting 1809 Barboza wins inside distance -180* vs Not Barboza inside distance
186496648-16	7/6/13 6:43pm	$1.00	$1,638.82	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1043 Weidman wins by 5 rnd unanimous dec. +1260* vs Any other result
				Win	7/6/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1211 Kennedy wins by 3 round decision +160* vs Not Kennedy by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:30pm Props Fighting 1311 Munoz wins by 3 round decision +275* vs Not Munoz by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1409 Swanson wins inside distance +200* vs Not Swanson inside distance
				Win	7/6/13 9:00pm Props Fighting 1611 Parke wins by 3 round decision +165* vs Not Parke by 3 round decision
				Win	7/6/13 8:00pm Props Fighting 1809 Barboza wins inside distance -180* vs Not Barboza inside distance

dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn son

[Grabaka]

Yeah i feel for you brooks...damn!!!

[Rubber Guard]

Here to eat crow. Anderson is an idiot, he deserved to lose. Too bad his run ended like that. What an idiot move. Congrats Weidman backers.

[raag]

Ando always does that shit to get guys to engage and take them out of their game. It usually works. It started to work on Chris, who was mesmerised for a bit before he snapped back to it and put Silva down. Him doing that weird backfist after the right straight threw off Silva's head movement timing and he rolled right into that left hook. Great setup from Weidman.

[The iron sheik]

Someone get me Ryo Chonan and/or Daiju Takase on the phone STAT!

[goodfellas433]

Honest opinions...does this make me a sick gambler:
I had weidman itd and by Ko. The weidman win has me up over 3k.
Earlier in the night I doubled my Kennedy bet after reading the breakdowns by md and and the crew and profited 600, placing another 100 on weidman by Ko after that win. It was the best night of my gambling life.
Then immediately after I felt angry I didn't put more down on the ko than I did. Is this normal for any of you or am I just greedy lol.

[Sato]

Weidman ITD was a deluxe play. I mean everyone saw Weidman with a point victory here...ITD is the shit.

Well gotta control yourself a bit there...just be happy you got the max out of this and go on to Mighty Mouse in 20 days!

[PunisherIND]

Honest opinions...does this make me a sick gambler:
I had weidman itd and by Ko. The weidman win has me up over 3k.
Earlier in the night I doubled my Kennedy bet after reading the breakdowns by md and and the crew and profited 600, placing another 100 on weidman by Ko after that win. It was the best night of my gambling life.
Then immediately after I felt angry I didn't put more down on the ko than I did. Is this normal for any of you or am I just greedy lol.

good stuff dude. Normal reaction imo. Nature of the beast. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

[goodfellas433]

Thanks, though probably not true in hindsight but I figured that a robbery or favoritism to Silva was likely and looked at it like he had to finish Silva to win. I also felt that Silva had enough grappling to at least fend off subs..so I happened to make the right pick.
This is coming from the guy who came in here to specifically ask if he should hedge if having a long parlay ending with weidman lol

[Sykes]

It makes for a good rematch, real good one. mo fo lost a bit on that fight, really surprised to see it happen but congratz to the Weidman backers prolly your best night ever!

[Dr.Gonzo]

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"Clown Silva" gets fighters to fight his fight. When Silva goes into "clown mode" he usually demoralizes his opponent - with his head and fists. He didn't go into that mode until Weidman got Andy in his world on the ground. It was a calculated decision by Silva. It was something that's worked 100% of the time in all prior UFC fights - and to an extent it did as Weidman stood and traded for a while. Silva didn't like being on his back, saw how easily Weidman could do it and changed his gameplan accordingly. Just b/c he looked to be showboating doesn't mean he wasn't taking anything lightly- if he didn't do that Weidman would've shot for TD a bunch more times. Let's not act like GOAT can't control his emotions in the cage. Silva's tactics got the desired effect, which was Weidman swinging. It's one Silva, he's not some bipolar fighter

:realtalk

Although Fedor's the GOAT.

[Beelzebubzy]

Dd anyone get paid on FOTN?

I only got paid evens for Aloe Vera Edgar at +400

[PaperTrail07]

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn son

[Mr Handicapable]

:realtalk

Although Fedor's the GOAT.

Fedor is the GOAT and I don't care if the game passed him by. He was humble, respected the game, respected his opponents, and respected himself. He came out there every fight to stop the guy and most of them were 30-50 lbs bigger than him in his prime. Don't give me the UFC shit either....Sylvia, Arlovski, and Randy Couture were the best they had at the time.

As for Silva.....he's getting old...obv not fully motivated....who says they'd lose a superfight (vs Jones) a day or 2 before a title fight? Don't underestimate Weidman either....didnt see the Munoz fight but he's a tough tough guy but Weidman completely DESTROYED him.

[bjpenn85]

betvictor decided to pay me 50% on both winning bets. Shady shit!

[rocky16]

idk, there were some Silva bettors who thought Silva under -300 vs whoever was an auto-play. Too many pages to read.

Having said that, MD is the worst capper on this board.

:fistpumps to grab & rocky:

Nice hit bro. Ended up dropping another $150 on Weidman. $400 to win $800 in total. Rest of night was wash. Lost Gracie, Boetsch, Herman. Won Edgar, Cub, and Pierce/barboza/parke parlay. Hoping Weidman comes in + on rematch. More easy cash.

[rocky16]

penetrating awesome +25 units in that play alone!!!!

Jesus pal, what a focking haul. Don't spend too much on the Hoers and cocaine.

[MD]

idk, there were some Silva bettors who thought Silva under -300 vs whoever was an auto-play. Too many pages to read.

Having said that, MD is the worst capper on this board.

:fistpumps to grab & rocky:

You realize I was on Weidman and probably made more money last night than you've made over the entire course of your time spent gambling, right? I also started two threads with plays recommended to people, at -144 and -130, and both cashed.

Nice try though brah.

[Beelzebubzy]

Md what night was bigger this or 161

I cashed big with weidman Kennedy Edgar

[MD]

Md what night was bigger this or 161

I cashed big with weidman Kennedy Edgar

161. I added almost 50% to my bankroll at 161.

Same here, I also cashed big with Parke and Craig, and got burned on Boetsch.

[JamesKim]

Not sure if this was intentional, but that backhand off the right messed with Silva's headmovement. He mistook it for a straight left and moves into Weidman's left thinking he has no punch there anymore, but gets caught blindsided. I'm inclined to believe it was a luck combo.

edit: made some mistakes

[MD]

Not sure if this was intentional, but that backhand off the hook messed with Silva's headmovement. He mistook it for a straight right and moves into Weidman's right thinking he has no punch there anymore, but gets caught blindsided. I'm inclined to believe it was a luck combo.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/7/7/4500432/post-fight-focus-belongs-on-chris-weidmans-execution-not-anderson

This is a great article on the subject.

Nice to see you around again, by the way.

[JamesKim]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/7/7/...n-not-anderson

This is a great article on the subject.

Nice to see you around again, by the way.

Thanks

Silva was definitely trying to get Weidman more aggressive, I don't think this is a case of Silva not trying like many people are saying either. However, I'm not so sure about that backhand. If Chris actually threw that backhand off the right to trick Anderson into moving to his left, he is a hell of a better striker than I thought.

[PunisherIND]

betvictor decided to pay me 50% on both winning bets. Shady shit!

dead heat rules, fellas

[Ron_Paul_2012]

dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn son

Good calls on most of the parlays though. A+ for effort.

[Vaughany]

Honest opinions...does this make me a sick gambler:
I had weidman itd and by Ko. The weidman win has me up over 3k.
Earlier in the night I doubled my Kennedy bet after reading the breakdowns by md and and the crew and profited 600, placing another 100 on weidman by Ko after that win. It was the best night of my gambling life.
Then immediately after I felt angry I didn't put more down on the ko than I did. Is this normal for any of you or am I just greedy lol.

One of the banes of gambling.

[Vaughany]

Thanks

Silva was definitely trying to get Weidman more aggressive, I don't think this is a case of Silva not trying like many people are saying either. However, I'm not so sure about that backhand. If Chris actually threw that backhand off the right to trick Anderson into moving to his left, he is a hell of a better striker than I thought.

Hes done tht before, cant remember what fight tho, maybe sakara

[NunyaBidness]

I agree with you to a degree. I think that Weidman is a very, very good striker though, but I thought that before the fight, so it doesn't have much to do with what you're implying. That said, I think the image you're portraying of the fight is not accurate. Anderson was throwing a lot of shots at Weidman, and Weidman was using his stellar head movement to dodge the majority of them. No reason to think that Anderson was about to knock him out. Weidman was doing very well, even before the KO, he was hitting Anderson frequently and dodging a lot of Anderson's shots. The fact that Anderson had his hands down and was taunting Weidman doesn't indicate that he was winning.

If you believe this, you should've been pounding the Weidman line coming into round 2. Why not post some screenshots?

[MD]

If you believe this, you should've been pounding the Weidman line coming into round 2. Why not post some screenshots?

I do believe it; I have said multiple times that MMA isn't a kickboxing match, and that Weidman can knock Anderson out. When you have to worry about takedowns, your striking defence gets significantly worse. Pretty sure I even PM'd that to you yesterday.

No live bets from me on that fight, though. I had closed Bet365 and 5D as I was really excited for the fight and just wanted to enjoy it.

I do think that the Weidman win was overblown and was definitely partly variance, but nothing I saw in that fight made me reconsider my initial handicapping of it, which was Silva -120ish.

[NunyaBidness]

No live bets from me on that fight, though. I had closed Bet365 and 5D as I was really excited for the fight and just wanted to enjoy it.

That doesn't sound like a 'pro' move.

[NunyaBidness]

I will give you credit and say you were the only one I saw who said that Weidman would be able to KO Silva standing, everyone else who argued KO was arguing by GNP.

In PM, I said that Weidman KOs Silva standing <1% I was clearly wrong, I will adjust my figure to <10%.

[MD]

That doesn't sound like a 'pro' move.

It wasn't, I will definitely concede that. -EV, but I was really excited for the fight. Some amounts of money are worth losing to see that unreal KO.

I will give you credit and say you were the only one I saw who said that Weidman would be able to KO Silva standing, everyone else who argued KO was arguing by GNP.

In PM, I said that Weidman KOs Silva standing <1% I was clearly wrong, I will adjust my figure to <10%.

The figure I had a Weidman KO at was about 13%, encompassing both GNP and standing stoppages, so I did think it was unlikely. I thought he was more likely to get a standing stoppage than GNP though, Anderson is great at neutralization on the ground and pure GNP stoppages are pretty hard in MMA these days. I never ended up playing Weidman KO, although I did have a bet on Weidman KO of the night. I figured the odds of Weidman stopping Silva and not getting it were <1%.

18xxxxxxx-x	7/5/13 7:xxpm	$100.00	$1,000.00	$1,100.00	Win	7/6/13 7:00pm Props Fighting 11001 Chris Weidman wins KO of the Night +1000* vs Not KO of the Night Winner/no winner

Not sure how I'll bet if and when they rematch. Do you think Silva will be favoured?