UFC on FUEL 10 (June 08, 2013)

[Grabaka]

Round 2
Patolino stocking and vizcardi running and hitting air everytime he throw. Pato just stocks and watches this fella hit air. Then nails him with 1 or 2, Vizcardi looking more and more like guida vs gray. Tries a good takedown and Pato scapes. Pato looking like Gray calling guida to fight. More of the same. 1 or 2 lands from Pato. Then Bla bla...nothing

[Grabaka]

It probably is lazy or just downright shitty capping. I don't agree that nog is better standing, better on the matt, nothing. I agree he has heart, but I just see werdum as a better Mir....sorry. And I will take the abuse both here and in my 5dimes account (severely) if I am way off base here. I have heard lots of cappers say werdum will willingly go the distance with nog out of respect...I don't but it. I think he is looking at a title shot with a win here and I think he is intelligent enough to know that a decision would be way too risky for him.

Nog is a little better boxer for sure....hes hindered by speed in the fights he does not train for, hindered by not the greatest chin anymore, injuries bla bla....but he is better boxer imo.

[MD]

It probably is lazy or just downright shitty capping. I don't agree that nog is better standing, better on the matt, nothing. I agree he has heart, but I just see werdum as a better Mir....sorry. And I will take the abuse both here and in my 5dimes account (severely) if I am way off base here. I have heard lots of cappers say werdum will willingly go the distance with nog out of respect...I don't but it. I think he is looking at a title shot with a win here and I think he is intelligent enough to know that a decision would be way too risky for him.

^ Lazy 'capping, but...

It probably is lazy or just downright shitty capping. I don't agree that nog is better standing, better on the matt, nothing.I agree he has heart, but I just see werdum as a better Mir....sorry. And I will take the abuse both here and in my 5dimes account (severely) if I am way off base here. I have heard lots of cappers say werdum will willingly go the distance with nog out of respect...I don't but it. I think he is looking at a title shot with a win here and I think he is intelligent enough to know that a decision would be way too risky for him.

...at least you're not an idiot like these guys must be.

[goodfellas433]

Lol, you can always count on honest opinions from the fine folks in this forum.

[Grabaka]

Round 3
Patolino stocking and vizcardi running and hitting air everytime he throw. Pato just stocks and watches this fella hit air AGAIN. Vizcardi running more more, both tried takedown but none get it done. They exchange.
Pato gets hit goes down and does a Lesnar flip and as he stands he gets caught with a knee. Protests...Mazzaflagg lets it pass and fight resumes. Pato lands one hard in the body stocks a little and land big overight hand that drops Vizco. Pato pounds him with 30 good ones and keeps the pressure and gets the finish. Vizcardi kept defending but that was 30 or more punches and elbows going in.

[MD]

Lol, you can always count on honest opinions from the fine folks in this forum.

If you leave your ego at the door and take everything in good humour, it's a pretty fun place to be.

I think that's Gabe's problem; he never wants to let things go. Unfortunate, since I actually like Gabe.

[Grabaka]

I agree with all MD. This place is bananas but i lol every time i come.

[Grabaka]

A good quote from the show was that the argentinian kept saying "yes im argentinian but im actually nice guy!" lol I liked him from the get go.
And patolino was also very nice guy... a great great attitude.

[gabe]

played ronny markes/Derek Brunson ov 2.5 -260

ronny marked itd

[goodfellas433]

Let the record show that I have been known to play dog catcher myself...was quite large on tj grant....
Maybe I have transferred my nut huggery for fedor to werdum.

Maybe that triangle choke with fedors face being so close to werdums bean bag...did something

[Dwil125]

ronny marked itd

Are you max betting ronny markes itd at +410 or taking fight doesn't go to decision at +160?

[goodfellas433]

If you leave your ego at the door and take everything in good humour, it's a pretty fun place to be.

I think that's Gabe's problem; he never wants to let things go. Unfortunate, since I actually like Gabe.

He seems like a perfectly nice guy who probably takes some of the smack talking too seriously....unfortunately with that picture I find it hard to take his posts seriously when I picture them coming from spiccoli in surfer talk...

[MD]

Are you max betting ronny markes itd at +410 or taking fight doesn't go to decision at +160?

Not Distance +240 for me.

[gabe]

Are you max betting ronny markes itd at +410 or taking fight doesn't go to decision at +160?

itd, but not max bet.

[mirinquads]

I'd wager that Vemola vs Magalhaes is the ugliest fight ever made, Closely contested by Giant Silva vs Chad Dawon and Takayama vs.. anyone (J/k hawtness, you know youre the hawtest)

Anyone taking action?

This fight is going to be unpleasant to watch in more ways then one.

[eligibletackle]

not sure i get Werdum straight up - they have similar skillsets and both are slow and plodding. maybe bet against Nog's chin if it's a KO artist - but Werdum? I dunno - just a weird fight to cap despite the available info as well as a previous matchup.

[Digo]

Judges gave it to Santiago......so what the hell happen? Why Leo Santos?

Santiago broke his hand.
Honestly, I can't see Leo Santos winning this fight, Patolino has good TDD and it's very hard to keep him on the ground (like JDS), his striking is much more solid and his hands are heavy. Besides, every time Léo Santos gets hit, he goes to te ground (like Werdum asking Overeem for his guard in the second fight). In my view, Patolino by tko/ko or at least a ud in a boring fight. The odds should be the opposite.

[goodfellas433]

So what is the largest parlay on this weekend's card that you think has a legitimate shot? Save me the parlays are for suckers speech, I'm fully aware after my 10 fight parlay that ended with nick Diaz over Condit....

Just wondering if anyone is playing a brazilian bonanza parlay this weekend?

[mirinquads]

Beanyboy, Silva, Assuncao, Markes, Neto and Damm if youre feeling adventurous should hit imo. Others are risky.

Still dont see how Safarian is almost -500? Dude is athletic and has an interesting style and all, but the UFC is really trying to push him too hard. Dolloway was supposed to get slaughtered, but that cashed (to my surprise as it was in Braziii') He gassed hard and was obviously undersized for the weightclass.

Edit; Hooooly shit just watched some of Mendez fights.. UFC really wants to push Safarian.. If he cant finish this guy, he doesn't belong in the UFC. -110 ITD should be the play there

[NunyaBidness]

So what is the largest parlay on this weekend's card that you think has a legitimate shot? Save me the parlays are for suckers speech, I'm fully aware after my 10 fight parlay that ended with nick Diaz over Condit....

Just wondering if anyone is playing a brazilian bonanza parlay this weekend?

Talking about parlays this way bring this sub-forum down to the stupidity of all the others.

Make profitable plays. How you combine them makes no difference. (Unless you've got a silly book)

[goodfellas433]

I like your honesty, especially in regards to actually being profitable with smart plays....but some of us suck and like the hail Mary once in a while to keep it interesting

[mirinquads]

Nothing beats the tingling sensation in mah baalls, when that hail mary hits. Gambling feels gud.

[Dwil125]

Beanyboy, Silva, Assuncao, Markes, Neto and Damm if youre feeling adventurous should hit imo. Others are risky.

Still dont see how Safarian is almost -500? Dude is athletic and has an interesting style and all, but the UFC is really trying to push him too hard. Dolloway was supposed to get slaughtered, but that cashed (to my surprise as it was in Braziii') He gassed hard and was obviously undersized for the weightclass.

Edit; Hooooly shit just watched some of Mendez fights.. UFC really wants to push Safarian.. If he cant finish this guy, he doesn't belong in the UFC. -110 ITD should be the play there

Hirota would kill that tardlay.

[goodfellas433]

Nothing beats the tingling sensation in mah baalls, when that hail mary hits. Gambling feels gud.

I agree kind sir. I also enjoy a fine ball tingling when a long parlay hits. I may even tail your recommendation above...there is nothing gay about two men enjoying a well earned ball tingling from a successful parlay. These serious cappers don't know what they are missing.

[Rubber Guard]

not sure i get Werdum straight up - they have similar skillsets and both are slow and plodding. maybe bet against Nog's chin if it's a KO artist - but Werdum? I dunno - just a weird fight to cap despite the available info as well as a previous matchup.

I really think Nog's bad chin is a little exaggerated. It isn't what it once was, but it is still better than many I think.

I think give the odds (Nog +265) it is an easy play on the dog. Maybe not expecting a win. But picking a side, dog looks good here all day at that price. HWs in Brazil makes for more craziness and brings it closer to 50/50. Just too many reasons to like Nog at that number.

I am a Nog fan. but I am right dammit!

[Darthcoder]

Santiago broke his hand.
Honestly, I can't see Leo Santos winning this fight, Patolino has good TDD and it's very hard to keep him on the ground (like JDS), his striking is much more solid and his hands are heavy. Besides, every time Léo Santos gets hit, he goes to te ground (like Werdum asking Overeem for his guard in the second fight). In my view, Patolino by tko/ko or at least a ud in a boring fight. The odds should be the opposite.

Didnt watch TUF Brazil but everyone I have asked is of the opinion that Macario is the favourite (I am assuming you are talking about Leo Santos vs Macario).

PaddyPower has Macario at 2.75 (Is that +175?, Sorry I am a n00b ).

I guess Macario is a good bet at that value?

[MD]

^ Maybe you should look into the fight yourself and find out.

Hirota would kill that tardlay.

Damm's pretty good, man. Much better than his record indicates.

Also, contemplating a play on Rony Jason. Guy is a savage, and Mike Wilkinson arguably lost to Loughnane, who is a massive scrub who is worse at literally everything than Jason is. Stylistically, it's not a good fight for Wilkinson.

[Darthcoder]

^ Maybe you should look into the fight yourself and find out.



Damm's pretty good, man. Much better than his record indicates.

Also, contemplating a play on Rony Jason. Guy is a savage, and Mike Wilkinson arguably lost to Loughnane, who is a massive scrub who is worse at literally everything than Jason is. Stylistically, it's not a good fight for Wilkinson.

Yes Sir, will watch TUF Brazil episodes now to judge for myself.

As for Rony Jason (Guy who walks out with the Jason Mask), he was the TUF Brazil 1 winner and the best fighter in his weight class on the show. I believe this is an easy fight for him and it is always difficult to bet against the brazilians in Brazil.

[mirinquads]

I agree kind sir. I also enjoy a fine ball tingling when a long parlay hits. I may even tail your recommendation above...there is nothing gay about two men enjoying a well earned ball tingling from a successful parlay. These serious cappers don't know what they are missing.

Let the ball tingling commence my friend - Though id prob. bet Damm outside of the parlay.

On the Damm fight, he is underrated. What makes me most about him, is that he is a Brazilian wrestling champion and BJJ practitioner, but seem to suffer from Gurgel Syndrome, where he doesn't utilize his best assets. However over Hirota, he has a 4 inch reach advantage and seemed to have evolved his standup game, beating Cavalho, (Depending on who you ask) who's better on the feet then Hirota. Though Hirota's hands might be a little better, Damm has some good striking defense and the ability to take it to the ground if needed. Coupled with Hirota traning in Japan for this fight and having to adjust to the jetlag and so forth, which often seems to be a problem for Asian fighters, and it being in Brazil, which boosts Damm up, I think the line is decent. Hirota is basically impossible to finish though, unless you snap him up and turn him into a damn pretzel, so I see Damm by dec.

[goodfellas433]

I will admit that my down time prior to this event has made me start to second guess some of my biggest plays. The staredown picture makes thiago look massive and even though that doesn't translate to winning, I'm just getting nervous on this fight. I had planned on using some of that profit to insure my werdum plays. I hate when people whose opinions you respect find value on the opposing fighter....

[pouyasophy]

I will admit that my down time prior to this event has made me start to second guess some of my biggest plays. The staredown picture makes thiago look massive and even though that doesn't translate to winning, I'm just getting nervous on this fight. I had planned on using some of that profit to insure my werdum plays. I hate when people whose opinions you respect find value on the opposing fighter....

My dikk wants to laugh. I remember a few years back when all my older brother's Afghan drug dealer friends came over to watch the fight. Machida was about to fight Thiago Silva and I told everyone that Machida was gonna light this guy up. Then Thiago got in his face in the staredown and everyone said "I don't think so, I think the tattooed guy with the attitude is gonna f*** him up." I said "I'll take any bets anyone wants on Thiago Silva." 5 minutes later Thiago Silva was laid out.

[Crassus]

My dikk wants to laugh. I remember a few years back when all my older brother's Afghan drug dealer friends came over to watch the fight. Machida was about to fight Thiago Silva and I told everyone that Machida was gonna light this guy up. Then Thiago got in his face in the staredown and everyone said "I don't think so, I think the tattooed guy with the attitude is gonna f*** him up." I said "I'll take any bets anyone wants on Thiago Silva." 5 minutes later Thiago Silva was laid out.

So you were more informed about a fight than an afghan drug dealer who was over for fun. Damn son, you know your MMA.

[Kermit]

I think Ronny Markes is one of the best plays on the board. Derek Brunson is a bum. After that Leben fight, I had been watching for this guys next fight. I've been parlaying Markes in with a multitude of baseball bets all week.

[Vaughany]

I really think Nog's bad chin is a little exaggerated. It isn't what it once was, but it is still better than many I think.

I think give the odds (Nog +265) it is an easy play on the dog. Maybe not expecting a win. But picking a side, dog looks good here all day at that price. HWs in Brazil makes for more craziness and brings it closer to 50/50. Just too many reasons to like Nog at that number.

I am a Nog fan. but I am right dammit!

I agree his chin isnt as bad as many make out

[Vaughany]

Caio magalhaes was horrible against Buddy, I actually think Vemola has a shot and may play him! If it wasnt in Brazil I'd be p pp p p pp p ppppounding Vemola like Bigday