ufc on fx 8: belfort vs rockhold (5.18.13)

MD · 05-08-13, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

Belfort is basic but he is not technically poor. Now he has added kicks. Anyone who cant tell the difference between basic striking and poor technical striking is ignorant.

Disagree. I think Belfort is an extremely lacking striker. He has poor set-ups, poor combinations, and really just relies on blitzing people. He's never been a good boxer. To say he's "added kicks" because he threw kicks against Bisping is misleading, too. Any healthy human can throw a kick. His kicks looked pretty bad in that fight.

Originally posted by sideloaded

Why is MD talking about striking at all? He is in the boxing thread asking what websites have boxing news and upcoming cards. He is the definition of someone talking out of their ass. Imagine someone telling you about mma then asking where to find mma news!

It's why im not going to post picks or any info here. I cant stand to know some blow hard like him is actually reaping benefits off of me. F-cking f-ggot tried to shit on my Zingano play after it cashed then turned about bet all over the mcmann play then right before her fight made some retarded post about her ground game sucking. Of course no one called him on it and he pretended it never happened. At least when Nunya does that shit I know he is trolling. I seriously wish ill all and bad luck on MD. F_CK HIM!!

AND NO THE MCMANN PLAY WAS NOT OBVIOUS THE UNDER WHICH IS THE PLAY I OFFICIALLY RECOMMENDED WAS AT +100 FOR A WHILE A 5D. F_CK OFF MD F_CKING ASSHOLE

**sideloaded** · 05-08-13, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by md

gaff is no joke and mcmann's submission grappling isn't great. No idea why everyone thinks mcmann is going to cruise to a finish here.

stupid piece of shit

**sideloaded** · 05-08-13, 09:22 AM

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keep talking to yourself SCUMBAG

**sideloaded** · 05-08-13, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by md

gaff is no joke and mcmann's submission grappling isn't great. No idea why everyone thinks mcmann is going to cruise to a finish here.

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MD · 05-08-13, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

oh and I really am DONE With sbr because MD ruined my thread. I post at another forum now. THIS IS the last post. MD Shit all the thread some more. I dont give a f-ck.

**Rubber Guard** · 05-08-13, 09:45 AM

Can't wait till the Gracie/Kennedy line is out. Timmy is going to box that POS up!

KENNEDY! Kennedy! kennedy!

**sideloaded** · 05-08-13, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by MD

Disagree. I think Belfort is an extremely lacking striker. He has poor set-ups, poor combinations, and really just relies on blitzing people. He's never been a good boxer. To say he's "added kicks" because he threw kicks against Bisping is misleading, too. Any healthy human can throw a kick. His kicks looked pretty bad in that fight.

I read this because I logged out to never return but this is just rich. So the only guy to finish bisping with kicks and the second man to stop him had "kicks looked pretty bad in that fight."

I discuss real bets with real bettors not fags like you on real forum now. Have a private mumble chat too. It's pretty sweet, ordered me a new headset with a mic.

MD · 05-08-13, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

I read this because I logged out to never return but this is just rich. So the only guy to finish bisping with kicks and the second man to stop him had "kicks looked pretty bad in that fight."

I discuss real bets with real bettors not fags like you on real forum now. Have a private mumble chat too. It's pretty sweet, ordered me a new headset with a mic.

Yes, that's why you clicked "View post" and quoted it, then replied to it.

**sideloaded** · 05-08-13, 10:18 AM

if you browse the board without being logged in your ignore list doesn't work. They are called "cookies"

MD · 05-08-13, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

if you browse the board without being logged in your ignore list doesn't work. They are called "cookies"

I'm talking about while you were logged in. Or are you saying you replied to me while logged out?

I guess you left the board forever again before posting this, right?

**rocky16** · 05-08-13, 10:41 AM

Rockhold and Dos Anjos are the plays. Don't kid yourselves you god damn twinks.

**Rubber Guard** · 05-08-13, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

Rockhold and Dos Anjos are the plays. Don't kid yourselves you god damn twinks.

Luke is going to use the force of his world class kickboxing to beat Vitor who is a 1 dimensional BJJ fighter. Belfort will be afraid to stand.

Dos Anjos fight is a little tougher to call. I like Dunham, but probably only because he is white. RDA probably wins.

**Grabaka** · 05-08-13, 12:06 PM

Holy Fokk. Diaz is Belfort trainer.......daaaamn now im nervous

**Educ8d Degener8** · 05-08-13, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Holy Fokk. Diaz is Belfort trainer.......daaaamn now im nervous

Maybe Belfort will use the Stockton Slap if Diaz is training him...

**Sacrelicious** · 05-08-13, 01:29 PM

Vitor ITD +184, made that play a couple weeks ago.

**rocky16** · 05-08-13, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Luke is going to use the force of his world class kickboxing to beat Vitor who is a 1 dimensional BJJ fighter. Belfort will be afraid to stand.

Dos Anjos fight is a little tougher to call. I like Dunham, but probably only because he is white. RDA probably wins.

Pal, one word...cardio. Its like when you see these fatshits who can't fukk their girlfriends right because their cardio fails them. Alphas like me step up and fukk them right.

Telling you to bet Rockhold. I personally have 100k on the fight. Won't even watch it. Fukking reruns of Golden Girls is on that night. No need to watch Skywalker slap the old man around for 5 rounds. Fukking Mexicans down there cheering for that chomo Belfort.

Make sure you pinch my pecker through my zanella bennets after Luke wins the fight.

Hit me up by PM for more info.

**Grabaka** · 05-08-13, 01:44 PM

LOL

Give this mexican that info.....i will not be rooting for the chomo.

**Grabaka** · 05-08-13, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

Telling you to bet Rockhold. I personally have 100k on the fight. Won't even watch it. Fukking reruns of Golden Girls is on that night. No need to watch Skywalker slap the old man around for 5 rounds. Fukking Mexicans down there cheering for that chomo Belfort.

100k lol

**rocky16** · 05-08-13, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

LOL

Give this mexican that info.....i will not be rooting for the chomo.

Mucho respecto to the Mexicans. They are hard workers. My garden has never looked better. Paying them in Cervezas.

**rocky16** · 05-08-13, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

100k lol

Taking my winnings and parlaying them on Weidman. Gonna buy a Ferrari after I win so I can look like a douchbag. This is after I pay my jewfukk lawyer after the Costa Rican Hoer house "incident." Fukking Hoers have "rights" now. Can't make it up.

**Grabaka** · 05-08-13, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

Mucho respecto to the Mexicans. They are hard workers. My garden has never looked better. Paying them in Cervezas.

You are a good man. Keep taking care of the amigos.

**Vaughany** · 05-08-13, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

100k lol

must be using Gaberz' local

MD · 05-08-13, 04:39 PM

Souza -550.

I like my odds of BTCL on Paddy.

**rocky16** · 05-08-13, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by MD

Souza -550.

I like my odds of BTCL on Paddy.

lol, you still giving out bad advice? Pal, go back to the shertards and post your losers there.

MD · 05-08-13, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

lol, you still giving out bad advice? Pal, go back to the shertards and post your losers there.

I didn't advise anyone to bet on Souza. I 'cap him lower than -550, I think it's an awful bet, even for "parlay fillerz".

**Sykes** · 05-08-13, 05:02 PM

He opened on paddies @ -275 if I remember right down to -400 now, Camozzi is +250

MD · 05-08-13, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Sykes

He opened on paddies @ -275 if I remember right down to -400 now, Camozzi is +250

That's what I got him at. Thought he'd open -400 on US books.

**omalley21** · 05-08-13, 08:25 PM

What is camozzi gonna ko him with an upkick? I can't picture him winning.

**Thor4140** · 05-08-13, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by eligibletackle

**eligibletackle** · 05-08-13, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by MD

Disagree. I think Belfort is an extremely lacking striker. He has poor set-ups, poor combinations, and really just relies on blitzing people. He's never been a good boxer. To say he's "added kicks" because he threw kicks against Bisping is misleading, too. Any healthy human can throw a kick. His kicks looked pretty bad in that fight.

This is the type of analysis where one can go overboard on when sizing up a fight. You could probably poke twice as many holes in Roy Nelson's striking game but the results speak for themselves. I don't think one has to be extremely technically sound in the standup w/ Vitor's instincts and style (I do find him to be a good boxer but let's forget that). His style is effective, and I'd rather bet on somebody who gets the job done in unorthodox fashion than somebody who's technically proficient but can't seem to make things happen.

3u Belfort +115
1.5u Belfort ITD +167
Rockhold by Decision +267 (however much to win 1.5u)

MD · 05-08-13, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by eligibletackle

This is the type of analysis where one can go overboard on when sizing up a fight. You could probably poke twice as many holes in Roy Nelson's striking game but the results speak for themselves. I don't think one has to be extremely technically sound in the standup w/ Vitor's instincts and style (I do find him to be a good boxer but let's forget that). His style is effective, and I'd rather bet on somebody who gets the job done in unorthodox fashion than somebody who's technically proficient but can't seem to make things happen.

3u Belfort +115
1.5u Belfort ITD +167
Rockhold by Decision +267 (however much to win 1.5u)

That's the thing, though; I never said Belfort isn't an effective fighter or that he can't knock guys out (because he can brutally knock out a lot of guys, as can an extremely poor striker like Roy Nelson), but people seem to attribute the ability to knock a guy out as "good striking". Cheick Kongo is a much better striker than Roy Nelson (maybe not so much in MMA anymore), but if someone was getting KO'd in that fight, it was almost always Kongo. The fact that Vitor Belfort isn't a technically sound striker doesn't take away from his ability to knock guys out. Likewise, his ability to knock guys out doesn't prove that he's a good striker.

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-08-13, 10:05 PM

Hahah Belfort always had head kicks
jack slack always comments that he will throw it 5 times a fight and never lands it

**Sato** · 05-09-13, 06:49 AM

Ouuughh you goddamn pieces of shits!

Belfort the underdog? Who did this?

**Thor4140** · 05-09-13, 07:46 AM

i wouldn't touch this fight cause this is the kind of fighter who could beat Vitor cause he is just a tough tough guy but hearing Vitor basically has no boxing skills on this site is stupidity at its highest level. Saying Kongo is a better striker than Nelson when Kongo refuses to move his head at all is also hilarious even tho i do think Nelson and that over hand right wouldn't catch the 500th ranked heavyweight in the world and i even think Ali at this age could dodge it.

**Thor4140** · 05-09-13, 07:48 AM

Tim Kennedy LMFAO He has to be one of the worst strikers in the history of MMA