UFC on FX 7: Belfort Vs Bisping (Jan 19)

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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #141
    Originally posted by sideloaded
    Barboza has a nice rebuilding fight here. This kid he's fighting has a padded record.
    gonna see a newww and improoooved Barboza as well after moving himself to New Joyyysey
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #142
      Originally posted by Fenster
      Books release incredibly off lines all the time, this is one of them.

      From gabe:

      just to remind u guys of a few fights i was on where the books ****** up: shabalat shamalev +230, joey beltran +260, dennis siver +250 vs nunes, steven siler +450 vs cole miller, jimy hettes +250 vs dat phan, khabib +250 vs shalarus, barao -220 over jorgensen, colton smith +200 over ricci, i can go on and on and on and on... the point is, the books penetrate up all the time, this is just the latest. ildamar alcantara +200 vs wagner prado is also an off line... you guys never learn. if you don't think the current line on sarafian is great, then you should question for capping capabilities. you're making the newb mistake of evaluating fighters based on previous match ups but not also based on their potential. if i were to simply go by khabib's previous fights before he got to the UFC, I would have never bet on him, especially as such a big dog. but i clearly saw great skills, heart, and ultimately a lot of potential from him. i knew with every ounce of my being that he would be able to best shalarus, i told everyone on the forum as much as i could. i tried to get people to hit that big dog, as i have done with other good plays i've spotted.

      Alright, will somebody unban the kid? Or Vaughany, you start being the middle man.
      ha Cant he just register again?!
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #143
        Originally posted by Grabaka
        I know this. And i backed all of those you said but barao and sivver. Made a ton. But lost on other. SO AS GABE.
        I do miss Gabe but hes no messiah. Since Gaberz like it we MUST like it?
        I think C.B. takes it.

        So what is gabe or you saying? He should be -300?
        no, -500
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        • GigaOuts
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-02-12
          • 527

          #144
          Originally posted by Grabaka
          I know this. And i backed all of those you said but barao and sivver. Made a ton. But lost on other. SO AS GABE.
          I do miss Gabe but hes no messiah. Since Gaberz like it we MUST like it?
          I think C.B. takes it.

          So what is gabe or you saying? He should be -300?
          I don't like to side with Gabe but I am big on Sarafian. I have $412 to win $250 on Sarafian, my biggest play for this Brazil card. I figure if Mayhem with bad knee can connect Dollaway, Sarafian head and cage movement will have no problem connecting too. Since I don't see Dollaway finish Sarafian if he manage to get it to the ground, than Dollaway need to take Sarafian down every round. It is very difficult for Dollaway to close distant when he is not explosive and have a shot chin. Even if hit the ground, Sarafian don't plan to stay there. He will get close to the fence and wall walk. But good luck either way!

          disclaimer! I haven't won any $$$ since April 2012, down 3g+ since than. But I gain some confidence cutting my 6g ds to 3g since coming back home from Vietnam in October.
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          • Grabaka
            SBR MVP
            • 02-19-11
            • 3216

            #145
            Originally posted by GigaOuts
            I don't like to side with Gabe but I am big on Sarafian. I have $412 to win $250 on Sarafian, my biggest play for this Brazil card. I figure if Mayhem with bad knee can connect Dollaway, Sarafian head and cage movement will have no problem connecting too. Since I don't see Dollaway finish Sarafian if he manage to get it to the ground, than Dollaway need to take Sarafian down every round. It is very difficult for Dollaway to close distant when he is not explosive and have a shot chin. Even if hit the ground, Sarafian don't plan to stay there. He will get close to the fence and wall walk. But good luck either way!

            disclaimer! I haven't won any $$$ since April 2012, down 3g+ since than. But I gain some confidence cutting my 6g ds to 3g since coming back home from Vietnam in October.
            Same thing said Goran "The crocopus" Reljic. Your biggest play? you see him as a -350 fave? Whats the numbem? GL to you too.
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #146
              The quick standups has to be a concern if backing Dolloway. Dolloway is going to have to be very active which may lead to him looking for more subs/gnp then usual which could aid Sarafian in gettin back to feet or even reversing position and ending up on top.
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #147
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                • GigaOuts
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 527

                  #148
                  Yeah, the home court advantage too. The fan will make sure the judges know every time Sarafian land a punch. Sarafian is much stronger than Mayhem who have a bad knee and his cardio is better too. I cap Sarafian at -200 but I never cap fight over -250 because I never willing to pay more than -250 juice. Yeah $412 is my biggest play this weekend, too stressful to bet 4 figure if line going against me. I was fortunate to have JDS line go from -140 to -220 otherwise I am looking at 5.2g in the hole for the UFC 155 card.

                  But too much confident on a fighter is bad luck...lol. I was very confident on JDS, Eric Silva, and someone was very confident on Nate Marquardt. I think if you can get Dollaway at +170 and you think Dollaway take it, than it is a good play. Anything could happen in a fight!
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #149
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                    • PunisherIND
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-24-11
                      • 4983

                      #150
                      Tavares wins by 3 round decision +352
                      Rothwell wins by 3 round decision +815
                      Lentz wins by 3 round decision +237
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #151
                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                        Tavares wins by 3 round decision +352
                        Rothwell wins by 3 round decision +815
                        Lentz wins by 3 round decision +237
                        Played Barboza by decision at +232
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                        • PunisherIND
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-24-11
                          • 4983

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          Played Barboza by decision at +232
                          i like that one too, but im hoping the line improves a little bit
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                          • PunisherIND
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-24-11
                            • 4983

                            #153
                            these lines may improve, but i dont feel as strongly about them so im playing em now

                            Markes wins by 3 round decision -144
                            Prado wins inside distance -112
                            Trinaldo wins inside distance -137
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                            • Bagalut
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-26-12
                              • 125

                              #154
                              Im on Godofredo Castro @ 175
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #155
                                Weigh-ins live now btw.. http://www.bjpenn.com/watch-todays-o...m-et-ufc-news/
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #156
                                  Wagner Prado looks a little downsy
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #157
                                    Barboza looks chiseled as fuuuuck
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #158
                                      Craig is a big boy!
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                                      • PunisherIND
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-24-11
                                        • 4983

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        Played Barboza by decision at +232
                                        +180 now... guess im just going to pass on it at this point.
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #160
                                          Dom Cruz sounds like a massive douche
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #161
                                            one of the ring girls is smoooooooooking
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                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4983

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                              Wagner Prado looks a little downsy
                                              looks like big alcantara is getting some steam.
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #163
                                                stream stopped workin for me just before Bisping came out!
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #164
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                                                  • JKD
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-04-13
                                                    • 149

                                                    #165
                                                    Not normally a 'size-counts' kinda guy (don't ask why lol)

                                                    But actually gonna put a little one on big Alcintara, he's not as undersized as I was expecting and Prado's not too well-rounded, he's just hyped because he's got a good back story, if Alcintara gets him to the ground I could definitely see him getting the submission.

                                                    Also might take Craig. Markes is a really good grappler obviously, but it's gonna be hard to impose his physicaility on a guy that big and in the stand up Craig has the edge.. Prices on both just seem a little extreme, and one upset outta the 2 is gonna be decent profit.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #166
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by JKD
                                                        Not normally a 'size-counts' kinda guy (don't ask why lol)

                                                        But actually gonna put a little one on big Alcintara, he's not as undersized as I was expecting and Prado's not too well-rounded, he's just hyped because he's got a good back story, if Alcintara gets him to the ground I could definitely see him getting the submission.

                                                        Also might take Craig. Markes is a really good grappler obviously, but it's gonna be hard to impose his physicaility on a guy that big and in the stand up Craig has the edge.. Prices on both just seem a little extreme, and one upset outta the 2 is gonna be decent profit.
                                                        yep, Craig's line gettin a bit crazy now, if it gets back to +275 I'll bite
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                                                        • JKD
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 01-04-13
                                                          • 149

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                          Holy shit, is the one on the left Chandella Powell whited up?
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #169
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by JKD
                                                              Holy shit, is the one on the left Chandella Powell whited up?
                                                              ha yeah, same jaw line and smile!
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                                                              • PunisherIND
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-24-11
                                                                • 4983

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                wow, that was ballsy of him
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                                                                • Beelzebubzy
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-06-11
                                                                  • 6995

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  ha Cant he just register again?!
                                                                  He dd register again his name isfenster
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                                                                  • JKD
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-04-13
                                                                    • 149

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    ha yeah, same jaw line and smile!
                                                                    Yep, smile of a bloke, jaw line of a bloke =]
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                                                                    • sideloaded
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-21-10
                                                                      • 7561

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                      He dd register again his name isfenster
                                                                      he didnt even register again. Fenster is his real account. Gabe was a ghost account.
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                                                                      • PunisherIND
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-24-11
                                                                        • 4983

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        yep, Craig's line gettin a bit crazy now, if it gets back to +275 I'll bite
                                                                        +290 @ pinny
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