Lots of talk about CC for NL Cy Young. How about Manny for NL MVP?

[rjt721]

Putting up ridiculous numbers since changing coasts, and almost singlehandedly responsible for the Dodgers winning the West (Yes, I'm calling the division race over, with 'Zona's devastating loss this afternoon being the nail in the coffin).

Manny since the trade:

.396 AVG
14 HR
40 RBI
.491 OBP
.776 SLG
1.267 OPS

Dodgers are 21-17 since the trade, and have gone from 2 games out of first to 3.5 up (D-Backs' recent collapse has been quite helpful in that regard) since Manny's arrival.

[Kingctb27]

His OPS is ridiculous, but I still can't see him receiving many votes over Pujols.

Anyone have any data on players switching leagues and MVP/CY Young awards?

[yisman]

Lincecum and Pujols should get them easily. No contest.

[VegasDave]

Your point was discredited when you pointed out the record; 21 - 17. He has helped tremendously and his numbers are great, but 4 games over .500 isn't enough to steal MVP from season-long NL'ers.

[rjt721]

Your point was discredited when you pointed out the record; 21 - 17. He has helped tremendously and his numbers are great, but 4 games over .500 isn't enough to steal MVP from season-long NL'ers.

I never said Manny should or shouldn't win the award.

21-17 represents a .552 win%, higher than Pujols' (the likely MVP frontrunner by most accounts) Cardinals season-long .538 winning clip.

[I.R.B]

CC should not be talked about as a NL CY Young award winner after 10-12 starts... My dude from SF Lincecum should get it...

[LT Profits]

I don't feel anyone that plays half a season in a league should be eligble for league awards. It would be different if there was just one award for thr entire major leagues like in the old days.

[Willie Bee]

Was this a serious suggestion, Manny for NL MVP? Please tell me it's not.

[fifawcs]

Delgado should win it. His team would not be in post season talks without him. Pujols is good and all and has sick numbers, but it's not like he singlehandedly is helping his team that much. Ludwick has done just as much as he has for the Cards and they aren't gonna make the playoffs.

[I.R.B]

Delgado wont win it... MVP is for someone that been doing somthing the WHOLE season... Not just after the all star break... Jmo

[Sinister Cat]

Delgado wont win it... MVP is for someone that been doing somthing the WHOLE season... Not just after the all star break... Jmo

I agree with this, but he's starting to get hyped on ESPN radio, etc. Delgado cost the Mets as many games in the 1st two months as he's winning them now.

I still think it should be Berkman in the NL, but I'd be surprised if he won.

[LT Profits]

I am not even sure Delgado is the most deserving MET up for consideration.

[Homedawg]

I don't see any reasons why Pulous won't win the MVP he deserves. He carries an average at best team, and most importantly helps them win.

[Casperwaits]

Manny MVP? Uh...no. The only MVP award he should win is Most Vile Prick!! Nobody that gives up on his team at any point in the season should be considered for anything. I know he didn't give up on the Dodgers, but voting him for MVP without taking his American League stats into account would make the debate incredulous. Only going by his National League stats wouldn't put him in the top 20 in Home Runs, RBI's or many other categories.

[yisman]

sorry, Delgado doesn't deserve it. OBP under .350. He's been good, but he's not the Mets MVP.

Pujols. No one else is close.

[ryanXL977]

david wright

[daggerkobe]

Ryan Howard will win the MVP and Brandon Webb the Cy Young.

Although Man-Ram will get some votes.

[ryanXL977]

i love the phils
ryan howard aint gettin mvp

[LT Profits]

Can;t give tne MVP to a .220 hitter, no matter how many HRs and RBI Howard ends up with.

[daggerkobe]

Howard 42 HRs (#1 in MLB) 126 RBIs (#1 in MLB)

M-V-P

[ryanXL977]

he wont even be in the top 2-3 in voting
pujols and berkman will be above him, and wright

[daggerkobe]

Hells naw...........

Howard MVP.... mark it down baby!

[jjgold]

delgado should win easy

[darrell74]

Tim Lincecum

[yisman]

Hells naw...........

Howard MVP.... mark it down baby!

I guarantee he doesn't win MVP.

[daggerkobe]

Right, because guarantees from peeps here less than 2 weeks carries a lot of weight here.

[daggerkobe]

1. Howard
2. Delgado (Wright will steal his votes)
3. Pujols (Ludwick will steal his votes)

Mark it down!

[LT Profits]

OK, since I've been here long enough, I'LL guarantee that Howard does not win it. You simply can't give the MVP to a .220 hitter, no matter how impressive his power stats are.

[daggerkobe]

He's not hitting .220.

[yisman]

Right, because guarantees from peeps here less than 2 weeks carries a lot of weight here.

I've been here long enough to know you're an idiot. I'll bet you anything that Ryan Howard doesn't win MVP this season.

[yisman]

.241 with a .328 OBP. His numbers are nothing close to Pujols's.

I think I'll take a .361 BA and a .467 OBP, thank you very much.

Howard won't even finish in the top 3.

[daggerkobe]

Who cares who u want? Your vote is irrelevent in the MVP voting. Just like your opinions are here. Move along now, relevant posters are talking.

Come back when u have street cred. :d

[ryanXL977]

i love the phils and i hope to god they win the east, but i see no chance in hell howard gets it

[MonkeyF0cker]

Why is there never any mention of Ryan Braun in these discussions? He has some pretty impressive numbers himself...

[ryanXL977]

bc his team sucks