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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    Nice Value on Giants +195 with Zito
    Zito just loves pitching away from the home fans. He has now had five straight good road starts.

    Code:
    Date       	Opp	Site	IP	H	R	ER	SO	BB
    7/5/2008 	LAD	H	7	6	2	2	10	1
    6/30/2008	CHC	H	5	6	5	4	6	5
    [B]6/25/2008	CLE	A	6.2	4	1	1	4	0[/B]
    6/18/2008	DET	H	2	5	5	5	2	4
    6/13/2008	OAK	H	5.2	6	4	4	3	4
    [B]6/8/2008 	WAS	A	5	7	3	3	2	4[/B]
    6/3/2008 	NYM	H	4.1	7	6	5	1	5
    [B]5/29/2008	ARI	A	6	6	3	3	5	3
    5/23/2008	FLA	A	6.1	3	1	1	5	4[/B]
    5/17/2008	CHW	H	5	8	2	2	4	6
    5/12/2008	HOU	H	6	7	3	3	2	1
    [B]5/7/2008 	PIT	A	5	5	2	2	5	2[/B]
    Best of all, he is coming off of his best start of the year.
  • pat venditto
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-07-07
    • 14347

    #2
    I actually agree I think this will be close.
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    • ertl09
      SBR MVP
      • 12-10-07
      • 1413

      #3
      +213 at matchbook, and the line is rising, thinking it'll end up around +220, great value
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        No its not, its ZERO "value", the guy and his team suck BAD. The Mets are getting hot and all you are doing is throwing good money at a bad team if you put anything on SF. Terrible team and pitcher.
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        • SBR Lou
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          • 08-02-07
          • 37863

          #5
          Took a small look at this one last night.
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          • BuddyBear
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 7233

            #6
            Yeah, I tend to agree here with Brock's post. Barry Zito has largely been horrible this year. He came off his best outing against one of the worst offensive teams in LAD in his last start. This is really one of the worst pitchers in the league right now so I am loathe to back him. Perhaps +1.5 is a better bet but we'll see. Although SF plays relatively well on the road, but I think this is a game NYM take and sweep the series.
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            • Bostongambler
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              • 02-01-08
              • 35581

              #7
              Why not... I know Zito pretty much pitchers batting practice to the other team, but Maine is avg. at best.
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              • BuddyBear
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-10-05
                • 7233

                #8
                Originally posted by Bostongambler
                Why not... I know Zito pretty much pitchers batting practice to the other team, but Maine is avg. at best.
                Yeah, that is true I guess. But consider that NYM are 18-10 vs. LHP this year and Zito is one of the weakest LH arms out there right now. I guess if this gets to +210 I'll jump on it but right now, the betting markets are favoring NYM to pull this one out.
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                • Willie Bee
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-14-06
                  • 15726

                  #9
                  I can certainly see why the price is attractive with Zito coming off his best start and the associated likelihood of a sweep for the Mets. But I just can't pull the trigger on either pitcher today, Zito or Maine.
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                  • smitch124
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-19-08
                    • 12566

                    #10
                    The Giants have yet to score a run in this series, do they go 3 straight?
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                    • Richkas
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-03-08
                      • 19396

                      #11
                      SF horrible

                      bad bet
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                      • johnnymapalo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-14-08
                        • 2999

                        #12
                        yes, it looks good on paper but how good will it be in reality.. Hmm. I don't trust Zito home or away and plus the Mets are hitting out of their minds right now. They shelled Zito at home and I don't see them letting up now.. Is Maine a lefty or righty??
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                        • gordon gekko
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-01-08
                          • 2842

                          #13
                          lol I just made a thread about laying the chalk with the mets betting the giants with Zito is just foolish.
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                          • ZXCVBNM123
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 06-12-08
                            • 188

                            #14
                            Cleveland Washington and Pittsburgh are garbage.

                            Did you see what the Mets did to the Giants two best startes Lincecum and Sanchez already?
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                            • BuddyBear
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 7233

                              #15
                              Originally posted by johnnymapalo
                              Is Maine a lefty or righty??
                              Come on dude, this is the internet age. You should be able to find this out in a second.

                              He's righty....
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                              • rake922
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-23-07
                                • 11692

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                Come on dude, this is the internet age. You should be able to find this out in a second.

                                He's righty....
                                maybe his internet connection is down
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                                • BuddyBear
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 7233

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rake922
                                  maybe his internet connection is down
                                  I guess in a weird way he did find it out on the internet.....
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                                  • fifawcs
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-14-07
                                    • 2888

                                    #18
                                    I think it may be worth it. Maine is coming off an injury and has a strained forearm. There's a chance that he blows it and Zito pitches well. For +220, it might just be good.
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      I think everyone is brainwashed that Zito sucks. The fact is that has had five straight good starts on the road, which is enough of a streak to say that it is not just chance.

                                      Zito is a head case and all the booing he gets at home has affected him, and that is reflected in his poor performance there. However, he is much more relaxed on the road away from all the booing, and that too is reflected in his recent good road performances.
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                                      • so-classy#23
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 06-16-08
                                        • 156

                                        #20
                                        Zito doesn't suck but hes never thrown the ball like he did in Oakland since he came to San Francisco
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          True, but that doesn't change the fact that he's been good on the road lately.
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                                          • fifawcs
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-14-07
                                            • 2888

                                            #22
                                            I agree with you LT, but I stayed away from this one. The reason being that Zito's road success came against crap offenses.
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                                            • onthewhat
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 05-14-08
                                              • 15411

                                              #23
                                              3-0 mets

                                              i'm not sure if the giants can get 4....
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                                              • Brock Landers
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 06-30-08
                                                • 45359

                                                #24
                                                Zito sucks BAD, the guy can't even hit 90 on the gun anymore, won't be in the majors many more years thats for sure..

                                                oh and BTW, 3-0 Mets
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                                                • BuddyBear
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 7233

                                                  #25
                                                  I think the only people who are brainwashed are the guys who are betting on Zito and think he is anything of the pitcher he was in Oakland. This guy is ALWAYS on fade alert. Either play against him or pass IMO. This guy is no longer backable.....
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                                                  • woodg8
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-21-08
                                                    • 1349

                                                    #26
                                                    Took the +1.5, so you never know, but the win is out of the question.
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                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                      I think the only people who are brainwashed are the guys who are betting on Zito and think he is anything of the pitcher he was in Oakland. This guy is ALWAYS on fade alert. Either play against him or pass IMO. This guy is no longer backable.....
                                                      Every game this year that he has been +200 we have these threads.
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                                                      • BuddyBear
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 7233

                                                        #28
                                                        The problem is people continue to cling onto this misguided belief that Zito is something special. He had a nice run in Oakland. Now, he is nothing. He is only starting b/c SF spent so much money on him and feel compelled to start him. At best he is a 5th starter/bullpen guy but with a regular salary, he would have been sent to the minors in May.

                                                        There is NO value whatsoever betting on this guy anymore. To make matters worse, his ballclub has one of the weakest offenses in the league. So basically you need a great performance from Zito (a rarity) and his offense to score more than 3-4 runs a game for him (a rarirty). Not a guy worth backing anymore....
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                                                        • pavyracer
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 82813

                                                          #29
                                                          Guys relax. It's only the 4th inning. Noone won or lost anything yet.
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                                                          • johnnymapalo
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-14-08
                                                            • 2999

                                                            #30
                                                            hm, I got the Mets on the runline. I just couldn't back Zito. Not the way the Mets are hitting/playing right now... I can't believe Zito just walked 3 players in a row to load up the bases. He even walked the pitcher, John Maine..
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                                                            • woodg8
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-21-08
                                                              • 1349

                                                              #31
                                                              Can't say I know much about this Zito guy but he's getting on my right now with his pitchin
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                                                              • smitch124
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-19-08
                                                                • 12566

                                                                #32
                                                                great at bat by Winn there, foulded off alot of fuzz and doubled in 2.

                                                                3-3
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #33
                                                                  BB,

                                                                  He had five straight good starts on the road coming into today, and the Giants wemt 4-1 and were a nice price each time. There is nothing misguided about what I do.
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    And YES Zito had value today because I gave the Giants at least a 35% chance of winning this game in his current form. You do the math at +195.
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                                                                    • woodg8
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-21-08
                                                                      • 1349

                                                                      #35
                                                                      3-3!
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