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  • kingofmonash
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    • 04-11-10
    • 631

    #1
    Line Movement Plays , An Experiment
    lo gang

    Im gonna make seome play based off opening line movements, just for tacking purposes

    Monday
    Day 1

    Cincinnati Reds -135 (2 u)
    Minnesota Twins +138 (2 u)
    Texas Rangers -158 (1u)
    Kansas City +107 (2u)
    Washington Nats +173 (1u)

    Note games haven been capped on player / team performance , just on bookmakers expectations, i presume they have read into the analysis part of teams / starting pitchers

    Lets Go
  • Cranium
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    • 09-05-08
    • 363

    #2
    Good luck King!
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    • kingofmonash
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      • 04-11-10
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      #3
      Experiment # 2: Pitchers last 3 inns ERA fade

      let me break this down to 2a and 2b

      2a deals with fading pitchers having ERA under 2.0 last 3 starts, i believe pitchers will always regress to their mean ERA 3+ , also the other advantage would be getting good value on the other side as bookmaker and public juice up strong favorites

      2b deals with backing pitchers having an ERA differential of over 5+ compared to his opposing pitcher (last 3 starts ERA avg)

      let go

      Monday
      Day 1
      2 a)
      Oakland Atletics ml (+100) - 2 units
      Chicago White Sox ml (-106) - 2 units
      Toronto Blue jays ml (-116) - 2 units
      Tampa Bay Rays ml (-135) - 2 units


      Now
      2 b)
      Detroit Tigers ml (+151) - 2 units
      Chicago White Sox (-105) - 2 units


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      • mp5070
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        • 09-13-08
        • 5446

        #4
        Matusz for Baltimore, who are playing Oakland, has only had 1 start this year.
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        • himeshforex
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          • 05-29-09
          • 1414

          #5
          good luck brotha
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          • Spaniard22
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            • 02-12-10
            • 868

            #6
            Good Luck King! I'll be watching to see how you do...interesting.
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            • I/O
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              • 05-26-11
              • 7922

              #7
              GL King

              You may want to keep a separate tally of your system plays that are no higher than -$110.
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              • Vin_vermillion
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                • 01-24-11
                • 1537

                #8
                If you want, inbox me on this. I have a theory on line movements that you can take or leave....you may all ready be aware of it but in gambling all theories are worth taking a look at.
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                • himeshforex
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                  • 05-29-09
                  • 1414

                  #9
                  so how was the day
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                  • kingofmonash
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                    • 631

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spaniard22
                    Good Luck King! I'll be watching to see how you do...interesting.
                    thanks a ton, lets rockettttt

                    Originally posted by I/O
                    GL King

                    You may want to keep a separate tally of your system plays that are no higher than -$110.
                    will consider this, nice point

                    Originally posted by Vin_vermillion
                    If you want, inbox me on this. I have a theory on line movements that you can take or leave....you may all ready be aware of it but in gambling all theories are worth taking a look at.
                    pmmed you , rightly told all theories are worth looking into
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                    • GoldenRichards
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                      • 08-31-08
                      • 314

                      #11
                      Interesting experiment good luck
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                      • kingofmonash
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                        • 04-11-10
                        • 631

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kingofmonash
                        lo gang

                        im gonna make seome play based off opening line movements, just for tacking purposes

                        monday
                        day 1

                        cincinnati reds -135 (2 u) - w
                        minnesota twins +138 (2 u) -w
                        texas rangers -158 (1u)- l
                        kansas city +107 (2u) - w
                        washington nats +173 (1u) - l (painful loss)

                        Note games haven been capped on player / team performance , just on bookmakers expectations, i presume they have read into the analysis part of teams / starting pitchers

                        lets go

                        3-2 (+4.12)
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                        • kingofmonash
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                          • 04-11-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by kingofmonash
                          let me break this down to 2a and 2b

                          2a deals with fading pitchers having ERA under 2.0 last 3 starts, i believe pitchers will always regress to their mean ERA 3+ , also the other advantage would be getting good value on the other side as bookmaker and public juice up strong favorites

                          2b deals with backing pitchers having an ERA differential of over 5+ compared to his opposing pitcher (last 3 starts ERA avg)

                          let go

                          Monday
                          Day 1
                          2 a)
                          Oakland Atletics ml (+100) - 2 units - L
                          Chicago White Sox ml (-106) - 2 units - W
                          Toronto Blue jays ml (-116) - 2 units - L
                          Tampa Bay Rays ml (-135) - 2 units - W

                          2-2 (-0.32) need to look at the -110 factor here !


                          Now
                          2 b)
                          Detroit Tigers ml (+151) - 2 units - W
                          Chicago White Sox (-105) - 2 units - W

                          2-0 (+5.02)


                          so a break down

                          EXPERIMENT 1 3-2(+4.12)
                          EXPERIMENT 2a) 2-2 (-0.32)
                          EXPERIMENT 2b) 2-0 (+5.02)

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                          • CHAZ
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                            • 12-09-09
                            • 4978

                            #14
                            When you're watching line movement you need to take into account if there was a injury or someone isn't gonna play
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                            • kingofmonash
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                              • 04-11-10
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                              #15
                              right CHAZ, point noted. I will post todays after a couple of hours or so
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                              • kingofmonash
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                                #16
                                EXPERIMENT 1

                                Tuesday
                                Day 2

                                Boston red sox (-124) (2x)
                                Atlanta Braves (-140) (1x)
                                Houston Astros (+124) (1x)
                                Detroit Tigers (+126) (1x)
                                L.A Angels (-167) (2x)
                                Colorado Rockies (-145) (1x)
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                                • kingofmonash
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                                  #17
                                  EXPERIMENT 2a)

                                  Day 2

                                  Philadelphia Phillies (-167) (1x)
                                  Arizona Diamondbacks (-114) (2x)
                                  Detroit Tigers (+126) (2x)


                                  Experiment 2 b)

                                  Day 2

                                  Toronto Blue Jays (-110) (2x)


                                  nothing really qualifying here but may be i will start an experiment 2c) where ERA Difference between 2.5 and 5 between starting pitchers are taken

                                  2c)

                                  Day 1

                                  New York Mets (+175) 1x
                                  Detroit Tigers (+126) 1x
                                  Arizona Diamonbacks (-114) 1x
                                  Boston Red Sox (-124) 1x
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                                  • Bswitz32
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 07-24-09
                                    • 460

                                    #18
                                    BOS ML
                                    TEX ML
                                    Zona ML

                                    BOL

                                    Over CHC vs CIN

                                    BOL today this looks like a good experiment
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                                    • kingofmonash
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                                      • 04-11-10
                                      • 631

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kingofmonash
                                      EXPERIMENT 1

                                      Tuesday
                                      Day 2

                                      Boston red sox (-124) (2x) -w
                                      Atlanta Braves (-140) (1x) - w
                                      Houston Astros (+124) (1x) - l
                                      Detroit Tigers (+126) (1x) - w
                                      L.A Angels (-167) (2x) -l
                                      Colorado Rockies (-145) (1x) - l
                                      3-3
                                      -1.35 u

                                      total 5-5 (+2.77)
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                                      • kingofmonash
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kingofmonash
                                        experiment 2a)

                                        day 2

                                        philadelphia phillies (-167) (1x) - l
                                        arizona diamondbacks (-114) (2x) - l
                                        detroit tigers (+126) (2x) - w


                                        1-2 (-1.40)

                                        net 3-4 (-1.72)

                                        experiment 2 b)

                                        day 2

                                        toronto blue jays (-110) (2x)- w


                                        1-0 (+2)
                                        3-0 (+7.02)

                                        nothing really qualifying here but may be i will start an experiment 2c) where era difference between 2.5 and 5 between starting pitchers are taken

                                        2c)

                                        day 1

                                        new york mets (+175) 1x -w
                                        detroit tigers (+126) 1x -w
                                        arizona diamonbacks (-114) 1x -l
                                        boston red sox (-124) 1x -w
                                        3-1 (+3.86)
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                                        • miyakuza
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                                          • 05-03-10
                                          • 1411

                                          #21
                                          If you read line movement correctly, you would have seen detroit get pounded two days in a row as well as baltimore...
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                                          • kingofmonash
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                                            #22
                                            EXPERIMENT 1

                                            day 3


                                            Florida Marline (-118) 2x
                                            Detroit Tigers (+161) 1x
                                            Houston Astros (+132) 2x
                                            Kansas City (-110) 2x
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                                            • kingofmonash
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by miyakuza
                                              If you read line movement correctly, you would have seen detroit get pounded two days in a row as well as baltimore...
                                              i did note the tigers, looks like tigers are a go today again
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                                              • kingofmonash
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                                                #24
                                                EXPERIMENT 2a)

                                                Day3

                                                Colorado Rockies (-107) - 2x
                                                Texas Rangers (-170) - 1x
                                                Tampa Bay Rays (+135) -2x


                                                EXPERIMENT 2b)

                                                Cininnati Reds (-132) - 2x

                                                EXPERIMENT 2c)

                                                Cleveland Indians (-160) 1x
                                                Washington Nats (+165) 1x
                                                Baltimore Orio (-139) 1x
                                                L.A Dodgers (+173) 1x
                                                St. Louis (-139) 1x
                                                Seattle (+135) 1x
                                                New York Mets (+153) 1x
                                                Tampa Bay (+135) 1x
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                                                • miyakuza
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                                                  • 05-03-10
                                                  • 1411

                                                  #25
                                                  Line is not moving in Rockies favor bud.
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                                                  • kingofmonash
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                                                    • 631

                                                    #26
                                                    your right , have ta edit it off
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                                                    • bozeman
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                                                      • 11-11-09
                                                      • 2162

                                                      #27
                                                      dude i ve done it in the past - it just doesn't work if you think all opening moves will play out in a profit to you. Seek out for sharps after tons of work you might succeed and open @a pimike type of thread@. But this exercise is just for you to realize - that's not that simple
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                                                      • kingofmonash
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bozeman
                                                        dude i ve done it in the past - it just doesn't work if you think all opening moves will play out in a profit to you. Seek out for sharps after tons of work you might succeed and open @a pimike type of thread@. But this exercise is just for you to realize - that's not that simple
                                                        any input is appreciated,

                                                        can you guide me on how to seek out / decipher sharp info, im willing to do the tons of hard work , and can you tell me something abt the pimike thread
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                                                        • kingofmonash
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by kingofmonash
                                                          experiment 1

                                                          day 3


                                                          florida marline (-118) 2x - l
                                                          detroit tigers (+161) 1x -l
                                                          houston astros (+132) 2x -w
                                                          kansas city (-110) 2x - l
                                                          1-3 (-2.94)
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                                                          • kingofmonash
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by kingofmonash
                                                            experiment 2a)

                                                            day3

                                                            colorado rockies (-107) - 2x -w
                                                            texas rangers (-170) - 1x -w
                                                            tampa bay rays (+135) -2x -w


                                                            3-0
                                                            +5.7

                                                            6-4
                                                            +4

                                                            experiment 2b)

                                                            cininnati reds (-132) - 2x -l

                                                            0-1 (-2.64)
                                                            3-1 (+4.42)

                                                            experiment 2c)

                                                            cleveland indians (-160) 1x -w
                                                            washington nats (+165) 1x -l
                                                            baltimore orio (-139) 1x -w
                                                            l.a dodgers (+173) 1x -l
                                                            st. Louis (-139) 1x -l
                                                            seattle (+135) 1x -w
                                                            new york mets (+153) 1x -l
                                                            tampa bay (+135) 1x -w
                                                            4-4 (+0.31)
                                                            7-5(+4.17)
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                                                            • kingofmonash
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                                                              #31
                                                              EXPERIMENT 2a)

                                                              Florida Marlins (+109) 2x

                                                              2B)

                                                              Kansas City (+122) 2x
                                                              St. Louis (-116) 2x

                                                              2C)

                                                              Florida Marlins (+109) 1x
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                                                              • phillybadboy
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                                                                • 12-11-09
                                                                • 9383

                                                                #32
                                                                where is no coin?
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                                                                • kingofmonash
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  EXPERIMENT 1

                                                                  Day 4

                                                                  Pittsburg Pirates (+111) 1x
                                                                  Chicago Cubs (+138) 2x
                                                                  Florida Marlins (+109) 2x
                                                                  New York Mets (+162) 2x
                                                                  L.A Dodgers (+106) 2x
                                                                  San Diego Padres (-127) 2x
                                                                  San Fransisco (-103) 1x
                                                                  Kansas City (+121) 1x
                                                                  New York Yankees (-138) 2x
                                                                  Minnesota (+121) 1x
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                                                                  • kingofmonash
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    LOL

                                                                    Not in my thread for sure
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                                                                    • dynamite140
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                                                                      • 4958

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by phillybadboy
                                                                      where is no coin?


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