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  • paco
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-07-09
    • 62873

    #10221
    Originally posted by No coincidences
    Texas has the better offense as well.
    Then go put ur points on this special.

    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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    • TylerDurden
      SBR MVP
      • 05-06-10
      • 1427

      #10222
      Originally posted by lakerboy
      Rangers TT over 3 is juiced while Rays tt under 3.5 is juiced at pinny.
      Meaning what exactly LB? Here's what I make of this, your take would be appreciated as always:

      the books are hesitant to move Rays TT to down to 3 indicating over 3.5 is the play? Same could be made for Tex under 3, but not really a play b/c it's on a solid number rather than a half number?
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      • lakerboy
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-02-09
        • 94379

        #10223
        Originally posted by TylerDurden
        Meaning what exactly LB? Here's what I make of this, your take would be appreciated as always:

        the books are hesitant to move Rays TT to down to 3 indicating over 3.5 is the play? Same could be made for Tex under 3, but not really a play b/c it's on a solid number rather than a half number?
        It means Rangers will score 4 at least and TB will not score more than 3.
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        • paco
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-07-09
          • 62873

          #10224
          Originally posted by lakerboy
          It means Rangers will score 4 at least and TB will not score more than 3.
          So ur saying Rangers win?
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          • TylerDurden
            SBR MVP
            • 05-06-10
            • 1427

            #10225
            Originally posted by lakerboy
            It means Rangers will score 4 at least and TB will not score more than 3.
            Really? I'm so lost now...

            So in terms of TT the play is following the juice or fading it (b/c they are reluctant to just move the line)?
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            • Bo$$ Bet$
              Restricted User
              • 07-08-10
              • 3062

              #10226
              First off giants ......now
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              • PAYTON20
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-02-10
                • 5217

                #10227
                Originally posted by lakerboy
                It means Rangers will score 4 at least and TB will not score more than 3.
                Originally posted by paco
                So ur saying Rangers win?


                Rangers ML? Rangers TT over?
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                • lakerboy
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-02-09
                  • 94379

                  #10228
                  Originally posted by paco
                  So ur saying Rangers win?
                  No but thats what the books feel.

                  Originally posted by TylerDurden
                  Really? I'm so lost now...

                  So in terms of TT the play is following the juice or fading it (b/c they are reluctant to just move the line)?
                  YOu follow the juice if it stays strong and doesnt get past the -128 mark without moving the line up to the next hook level. THis is a fairly typical pinny line on the playoff games so far. THe fact that Texas +1.5 is -200 or above at most shops tells you the rays wont win by more than 1 or lose su.
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                  • ROFLcopter
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-16-10
                    • 4446

                    #10229
                    Damn.. not what I wanted to hear. I have Rays as a last leg of a 3 teamer. I guess the smartest thing for me to do is take Texas to ensure myself a profit.
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                    • lakerboy
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-02-09
                      • 94379

                      #10230
                      Originally posted by ROFLcopter
                      Damn.. not what I wanted to hear. I have Rays as a last leg of a 3 teamer. I guess the smartest thing for me to do is take Texas to ensure myself a profit.

                      Copter bro you know how we cashed those +1.5 high juices on the ML late in the year.
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                      • ROFLcopter
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-16-10
                        • 4446

                        #10231
                        That's true LB. I see 67% on Tampa RL but line is holding strong so far
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                        • kmarinouofm
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 8437

                          #10232
                          i have picked the wrong times to go against the rays.. i still feel like they are the weaker team tomorrow..

                          I think Playing in Tampa is exactly what the Rangers need. For some odd reason they have been able to get it done in this stadium..
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                          • PAYTON20
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-02-10
                            • 5217

                            #10233
                            So LB, the Rangers wouldn't qualify for a bet according to your system like the Giants did?
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                            • troutsky
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-31-10
                              • 509

                              #10234
                              wahwooey cash the ray rays
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                              • FLO31
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-19-10
                                • 972

                                #10235
                                i'm leaning rangers and cliff lee big all the way.. i'm waiting for someone to talk me out of it lol...
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                                • lakerboy
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94379

                                  #10236
                                  Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                  So LB, the Rangers wouldn't qualify for a bet according to your system like the Giants did?

                                  Not a 10x play in an elimination game on the road. I do think the Rangers qualify in my system as a FF +0.5 play for sure.
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94379

                                    #10237
                                    I personally think the Rays turned the corner but i hate going against all the things that help me win. One of those things is that you dont fade a team that is -225 on +1,5 and especially with Lee. It is pretty obvious linemakers believe Price is gassed. They have made that abundantly clear with the line.
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                                    • PAYTON20
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-02-10
                                      • 5217

                                      #10238
                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                      Not a 10x play in an elimination game on the road. I do think the Rangers qualify in my system as a FF +0.5 play for sure.
                                      Haha nah I wasn't saying 10x. I was wondering if they'd qualify for let's say a 1-3 unit play. I've already got 2x pending on the Rangers in a parlay, so I might not even bet the game. I was just curious how you decide or determine the play and unit size. I'll be checking in tomorrow. Thanks once again for Giants tonight and on the series
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                                      • lakerboy
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94379

                                        #10239
                                        Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                        Haha nah I wasn't saying 10x. I was wondering if they'd qualify for let's say a 1-3 unit play. I've already got 2x pending on the Rangers in a parlay, so I might not even bet the game. I was just curious how you decide or determine the play and unit size. I'll be checking in tomorrow. Thanks once again for Giants tonight and on the series
                                        TO me this game is a 1-2 unit game. There is hardly any edge here.
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                                        • PAYTON20
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-02-10
                                          • 5217

                                          #10240
                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                          I personally think the Rays turned the corner but i hate going against all the things that help me win. One of those things is that you dont fade a team that is -225 on +1,5 and especially with Lee. It is pretty obvious linemakers believe Price is gassed. They have made that abundantly clear with the line.
                                          Cliff Lee has proven he's a big game performer. If he can shut out the Yankees in the World Series in Yankee Stadium- what's stopping him from doing the same to any other team in any other stadium. The Rangers are a good fastball hitting team and jumped all over Price in Game 1. Even though it's tough to see a repeat of that, I think all the Rangers need is 3 runs to win this game. It's pretty tough to hold that offense under that number
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                                          • lakerboy
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-02-09
                                            • 94379

                                            #10241
                                            The other thing that is non related to this game but alwys helps the hated teams is that the yanks get home field with texas. YOu know somehow that could occur just so the yanks are set up nicely.
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                                            • sneakerhead
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-14-10
                                              • 7727

                                              #10242
                                              I found something interesting on 5dimes, wanted to share here, what do you make of this LB?

                                              TEX wins by exactly 1 run +575
                                              TAM wins by exactly 1 run +382

                                              TEX wins by exactly 2 run +694
                                              TAM wins by exactly 2 run +708

                                              TEX wins by exactly 3 run +872
                                              TAM wins by exactly 3 run +950

                                              TEX wins by exactly 4 run +1261
                                              TAM wins by exactly 4 run +1311

                                              TEX wins by exactly 5 run +1568
                                              TAM wins by exactly 5 run +1668

                                              TEX wins by exactly 6 run +2468
                                              TAM wins by exactly 6 run +2468

                                              Rays are getting better odds than Rangers by 1 run win but Rangers are getting better odds in a 2-6 run win.
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                                              • TylerDurden
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-06-10
                                                • 1427

                                                #10243
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy

                                                YOu follow the juice if it stays strong and doesnt get past the -128 mark without moving the line up to the next hook level. THis is a fairly typical pinny line on the playoff games so far. THe fact that Texas +1.5 is -200 or above at most shops tells you the rays wont win by more than 1 or lose su.
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                Copter bro you know how we cashed those +1.5 high juices on the ML late in the year.
                                                I see what you mean by the game being within one run, I just took it to mean that the Rays win a 4-3 type game. Rays would score 4 (thus they juice the under 3.5 instead of moving it down to 4). But then again I guess your right, you get the value if you take the Rangers in a basically even game, especially with a solid pitcher like Lee on the bump....which long-run is probably alot more profitable than taking the Rays and laying juice.

                                                Thanks for the help bud, I'm fairly new to this and always down to learn a thing or two.
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                                                • Tommy_de1st
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-23-10
                                                  • 8397

                                                  #10244
                                                  Another monster night. Im speechless
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                                                  • TylerDurden
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-06-10
                                                    • 1427

                                                    #10245
                                                    Originally posted by Tommy_de1st
                                                    Another monster night. Im speechless
                                                    Damn Tommy who's the babe?...I'm speechless!
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                                                    • JR007
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-21-10
                                                      • 5279

                                                      #10246
                                                      Thanks LB, for the Giants !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                      • Tommy_de1st
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-23-10
                                                        • 8397

                                                        #10247
                                                        Originally posted by TylerDurden
                                                        Damn Tommy who's the babe?...I'm speechless!
                                                        Tyler, i found her in one of Dad's thread, check yourself http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...ml#post6799519
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                                                        • Nelly
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 09-23-10
                                                          • 23

                                                          #10248
                                                          best of luck laker boy
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                                                          • brucethebear
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-16-10
                                                            • 724

                                                            #10249
                                                            Great day today LB!
                                                            Giants ML, Giants + under parlay, Giants series - All win!


                                                            Cheers, BtB
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                                                            • Carlito7
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 07-29-10
                                                              • 428

                                                              #10250
                                                              woehoee , congrats lb!! up over 100 units! great comeback,awesome
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                                                              • Dexter
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-24-08
                                                                • 25829

                                                                #10251
                                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                Giants ML +127 (10x)

                                                                No other plays on this game.
                                                                great call - i was shocked this didnt get to a game 5, but at least i got my series bet on SF.

                                                                we finally agree on something tonight...
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                                                                • GiveMeaBJ
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-08-09
                                                                  • 8449

                                                                  #10252
                                                                  Been a while but nice hit on the Giants last night LB. Great season you are having.

                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  I personally think the Rays turned the corner but i hate going against all the things that help me win. One of those things is that you dont fade a team that is -225 on +1,5 and especially with Lee. It is pretty obvious linemakers believe Price is gassed. They have made that abundantly clear with the line.
                                                                  I agree that the Rays turned the corner. I disagree though that the line was set like this because Price is gassed. I think the line was set like this because originally Cliff Lee wasn't getting any credit because ever since he had gotten traded to Texas he went 4-6 with a 3.98 ERA. Then he shuts down the Rays in Game 1 and we all have that "Oh yea, Cliff Lee is really good" moment. I'm sure lots of people backing Cliff Lee again after watching Game 1.

                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  TO me this game is a 1-2 unit game. There is hardly any edge here.
                                                                  Completely agree. I have my Rays to win series bet at -145 pending for 2 units. I think I just have to let it ride, I lean Rays tonight but I'm not crazy about anything in this game.
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                                                                  • ROFLcopter
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-16-10
                                                                    • 4446

                                                                    #10253
                                                                    Originally posted by sneakerhead
                                                                    I found something interesting on 5dimes, wanted to share here, what do you make of this LB?

                                                                    TEX wins by exactly 1 run +575
                                                                    TAM wins by exactly 1 run +382

                                                                    TEX wins by exactly 2 run +694
                                                                    TAM wins by exactly 2 run +708

                                                                    TEX wins by exactly 3 run +872
                                                                    TAM wins by exactly 3 run +950

                                                                    TEX wins by exactly 4 run +1261
                                                                    TAM wins by exactly 4 run +1311

                                                                    TEX wins by exactly 5 run +1568
                                                                    TAM wins by exactly 5 run +1668

                                                                    TEX wins by exactly 6 run +2468
                                                                    TAM wins by exactly 6 run +2468

                                                                    Rays are getting better odds than Rangers by 1 run win but Rangers are getting better odds in a 2-6 run win.
                                                                    Very interesting prop. Would love to see what you think here LB. Based on the RL it looks to be a 1 run game
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                                                                    • DMB40
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-04-09
                                                                      • 1258

                                                                      #10254
                                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                      The other thing that is non related to this game but alwys helps the hated teams is that the yanks get home field with texas. YOu know somehow that could occur just so the yanks are set up nicely.
                                                                      Yankees are away regardless of who wins they were the wild card.
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                                                                      • rb3b3
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 10-03-10
                                                                        • 962

                                                                        #10255
                                                                        guys i need your help big time!!!!! dont hate me for this, but i live in ny, and i am a huge yankee fan!!! with that being said, i have seen cliff lee perform unreal in hugee playoffs games against the yankees!! i mean he is dominant in huge games against the yankees. in game 1 lee destroyed the rays!!!! now here we are in a huge game 5 with lee on the mound. i feel the betting gods are giving us free money here. this is a repeat of game 1. what has changed other then momentum which lee will kill in a huge game. can someone please tell me where i am wrong? i think lee will dominate again like he always does in huge games!!! plus the rays are the worst hitting team in the playoffs.Texas has a great lineup that can smoke any pitcher. thats my theory at least. so again someone please tell me why the rays are favoites in this game other then home field advantage???i dont understand this!! usually when i like a game this much you fade me and make a ton of money!!!!!!!!!!!
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