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  • bombCanada
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-19-09
    • 965

    #1
    The bombCanada MLB Runline Chase
    This system is a synthesis of systems ideas from around this and other boards.

    The rules are pretty simple:
    1) Play the biggest opening line favorite (as listed on sbrodds) on a synthetic -1 runline.
    2) Chase losses up to 6 games (this could change as I develop the idea further)
    3) Actual dollars are tracked. Lines are from Matchbook at the time I make the wager. A purely arbitrary $10 is risked on each game.
    4) I may choose to track variations on the theme. I'm especially interested in variations on money management.
    5) The first 2 weeks and the last 2 weeks of the system will be accounted for separately to see if results are demonstrably different from the rest of the season.
  • bombCanada
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-19-09
    • 965

    #2
    For 4/5:

    CWS ML $6.09 to win $3.90 (-156)
    CWS RL $3.90 to win $5.23 (+134)

    Game record: 0 - 0 - 0
    Chase record: 0 - 0

    Note on the synthetic -1 runline: since matchbook only makes a market in a runline of -1.5, one can synthesize a -1 line with a combination of ML and RL-1.5 wagers. Note that if CWS wins by exactly 1 run, then the win on the ML bet exactly offsets the loss on the RL-1.5 bet, creating a push. I far prefer the 3 options of win, lose, or push to the 2 options of win or lose.
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    • johnolerud9
      SBR Rookie
      • 04-04-10
      • 12

      #3
      keeping track

      So you will post everyday to keep track, I will join your system.
      I have a min to win $25 site im on so what should my bet be?
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      • bombCanada
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-19-09
        • 965

        #4
        Originally posted by johnolerud9
        So you will post everyday to keep track, I will join your system. I have a min to win $25 site im on so what should my bet be?
        Multiply each of the risked numbers (or win numbers) above by 2.5.

        So for the ML portion of the wager, risk 15.23 to win 9.75. Do the same for the RL portion. You're going to have to account for the difference in the odds at your book. The important aspect of the synthetic -1 RL is to make sure the ML win amount is the same as the RL risk amount so that the result of a 1 run win is a push.
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        • johnolerud9
          SBR Rookie
          • 04-04-10
          • 12

          #5
          I was trying to say that my bets have to be a min of $25 so what should be the breakdown based on that, the lines are not out yet but let me know based on your odds so I can figure it out in the future
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          • bombCanada
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-19-09
            • 965

            #6
            This is a simple math problem. Bet $25 on the RL. 25 / 3.90 = 6.41.

            Now multiply the ML amount * 6.41 = 39.04. Bet that on the ML.
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            • johnolerud9
              SBR Rookie
              • 04-04-10
              • 12

              #7
              Bets are in, so let's keep track and win
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              • bombCanada
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-19-09
                • 965

                #8
                Win yesterday, CWS 6 CLE 0

                Game record 1 - 0 - 0
                Chase record 1 - 0
                Season Profit $9.13
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                • bombCanada
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-19-09
                  • 965

                  #9
                  For 4/6:

                  TAM ML $6.4 to win $3.56 (-181)
                  TAM RL $3.56 to win $4.16 (+117)
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                  • bombCanada
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-19-09
                    • 965

                    #10
                    Push yesterday, TAM 4 BAL 3

                    Game record 1 - 0 - 1
                    Chase record 1 - 0
                    Game Profit $0.00
                    Season Profit $9.13
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                    • bombCanada
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-19-09
                      • 965

                      #11
                      For 4/7:

                      TAM ML $6.71 to win $3.29 (-204)
                      TAM RL $3.29 to win $3.45 (+105)
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                      • glassjaw
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 11-12-09
                        • 217

                        #12
                        BOL bombCanada.

                        I'm tailing...
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                        • million2one
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-19-09
                          • 1290

                          #13
                          Good luck, I'm a sucker for chase systems, will be checking it out.
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                          • bombCanada
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-19-09
                            • 965

                            #14
                            4/7 Push:

                            BAL 3
                            TAM 4

                            First 2 weeks:
                            Games 1 - 0 - 2
                            Chase 1 - 0
                            Game Profit: $0.00
                            Season Profit: $9.13
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                            • bombCanada
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-19-09
                              • 965

                              #15
                              Originally posted by glassjaw
                              BOL bombCanada.

                              I'm tailing...
                              Thank you for the kind wishes and best luck to us both!
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                              • bombCanada
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-19-09
                                • 965

                                #16
                                Originally posted by million2one
                                Good luck, I'm a sucker for chase systems, will be checking it out.
                                Million, thank you for the support, best luck to you as well.
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                                • bombCanada
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 965

                                  #17
                                  Well, it's taken less than a week and I'm already questioning the play the system dictates today... BAL/TAM for the 3d day in a row... TAM has won twice already in this series, and the opening odds keep going up, although the current odds have reduced quite a bit. This is making it feel like a streak chasing system, which is not what I want it to be. I've deliberately separated out the first two week for exactly reasons like this. I need to think about this a little more.
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                                  • bombCanada
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-19-09
                                    • 965

                                    #18
                                    For 4/8:

                                    TAM ML $6.21 to win $3.79 (-164)
                                    TAM RL $3.79 to win $4.39 (+116)
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                                    • johnolerud9
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 04-04-10
                                      • 12

                                      #19
                                      braves

                                      I see that the braves are even lower odds
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                                      • bombCanada
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-19-09
                                        • 965

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by johnolerud9
                                        I see that the braves are even lower odds
                                        Team selection is based upon opening odds as listed in sbrodds at the time I look at it. I show the Braves opening yesterday at -165.
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                                        • bombCanada
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-19-09
                                          • 965

                                          #21
                                          4/8 Game Loss

                                          BAL 5
                                          TAM 4

                                          First 2 weeks:
                                          Games 1 - 1 - 2
                                          Chase 1 - 0
                                          Game Profit: -$10.00
                                          Season Profit: -$0.87

                                          So while I'm unhappy about events proving me right, I have to figure out whether or not I should modify the system as a result of what I emotionally believe to be an inevitable loss.
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                                          • TheCommish
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-23-09
                                            • 1013

                                            #22
                                            Careful with adding feeling to it, once you do that it's no longer a system. (Not that any system is guaranteed or anything).
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                                            • bombCanada
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-19-09
                                              • 965

                                              #23
                                              For 4/9

                                              COL ML $13.84 to win $8.24 (-168)
                                              COL RL $8.24 to win $10.05 (+122)

                                              So this is a B bet... a $10 risk on the game + the additional $12.07 to win back the $10 loss yesterday.
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                                              • bombCanada
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-19-09
                                                • 965

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheCommish
                                                Careful with adding feeling to it, once you do that it's no longer a system. (Not that any system is guaranteed or anything).
                                                Hi Commish

                                                Have been admiring your work from afar in both the NHL and now MLB contests in sbrpicks. Thank you for watching my thread.

                                                And yes, I agree that feeling / intuition has no place in a system and that's why I made the TAM play in spite of all that. I'm not a big enough fan of baseball to know if this is going to be a pattern that repeats itself throughout the season. Will be interesting to watch.

                                                Thanks again.
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                                                • johnolerud9
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 04-04-10
                                                  • 12

                                                  #25
                                                  well that would be a win today!!!!!!!
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                                                  • bombCanada
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-19-09
                                                    • 965

                                                    #26
                                                    4/9 Win:

                                                    SDG 0
                                                    COL 7

                                                    First 2 weeks:
                                                    Games 2 - 1 - 2
                                                    Chase 2 - 0
                                                    Game Profit: $18.29
                                                    Season Profit: $17.42
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                                                    • bombCanada
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-19-09
                                                      • 965

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by johnolerud9
                                                      well that would be a win today!!!!!!!
                                                      John, thank you and I appreciate your playing along at home.
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                                                      • bombCanada
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-19-09
                                                        • 965

                                                        #28
                                                        OK, Saturday presents 2 problems... Clear favorite ARI requires the -1 RL system to lay odds on the -1.5 RL line. If I fall back to the 2nd best opening lines, there are 2 teams who opened at -175, DET and COL. I'm going to choose COL again because the opening odds on the -1.5RL show them slightly more likely to win by 2.
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                                                        • bombCanada
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-19-09
                                                          • 965

                                                          #29
                                                          For 4/10

                                                          COL ML $5.95 to win $4.05 (-147)
                                                          COL RL $4.05 to win $5.38 (+133)

                                                          Good luck!
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                                                          • TheCommish
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-23-09
                                                            • 1013

                                                            #30
                                                            Best of luck (even though I'm Canadian )
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                                                            • goblue12
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-08-09
                                                              • 1316

                                                              #31
                                                              Love the user name.

                                                              Good luck on your strategy.
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                                                              • johnolerud9
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 04-04-10
                                                                • 12

                                                                #32
                                                                Im in for the COL!!!!
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                                                                • bombCanada
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-19-09
                                                                  • 965

                                                                  #33
                                                                  4/10 Loss:

                                                                  SDG 5
                                                                  COL 4 (14 innings)

                                                                  First 2 weeks:
                                                                  Games 2 - 2 - 2
                                                                  Chase 2 - 0
                                                                  Game Profit: -$10.00
                                                                  Season Profit: $7.42
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                                                                  • bombCanada
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-19-09
                                                                    • 965

                                                                    #34
                                                                    COL is laying money on the RL today. There are 4 teams who opened at -200. Of them SFO now has the best odds so they'll be my play for today.
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                                                                    • bombCanada
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-19-09
                                                                      • 965

                                                                      #35
                                                                      For 4/11

                                                                      SFO ML $15.21 to win $8.45 (-180)
                                                                      SFO RL $8.45 to win $8.87 (+105)

                                                                      Good luck!
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