Cubbies Tonight! Pedro Gets Drilled!

Panekkkk · 08-12-09, 01:48 PM

I would go HEAVY against Pedro if Samardzija wasn't pitching. There's no mistake that the line opened at 10.5 -- Especially considering Philly cannot hit lately. This could go either way I'm thinking.

themajormt · 08-12-09, 02:05 PM

I agree Panek... This is a major crap shoot game and not worth taking. I dont think you can back either side and feel too comfortable about it. The pitchers are 2 big wild cards... Especially with Philly not hitting lately...

bostonboss · 08-12-09, 02:27 PM

wind is blowing in 10mph

twentyonekid · 08-12-09, 02:34 PM

this is a pass game if i ever saw one

fifawcs · 08-12-09, 02:45 PM

How do you know Pedro will pitch poorly? Are you a psychic? You are basing your entire play on a poor performance by Pedro, who was once a top pitcher. If he pitches well or at least decent, you may be screwed since the Phillies are significantly better than the Cubs without Aramis.

Mikail · 08-12-09, 02:49 PM

I am interested in seeing Pedro's performance in this game, althought I have to put more emphasis on the Phils Hitting. I think the game depends solely on whether or not the can score runs today.

CashMoney · 08-12-09, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by fifawcs

How do you know Pedro will pitch poorly? Are you a psychic? You are basing your entire play on a poor performance by Pedro, who was once a top pitcher. If he pitches well or at least decent, you may be screwed since the Phillies are significantly better than the Cubs without Aramis.

No action on this game for me. I think Pedro is going to get roughed up considering his ERA was in the mid 5's during his rehab assignment.

fifawcs · 08-12-09, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by CashMoney

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Originally Posted by fifawcs
How do you know Pedro will pitch poorly? Are you a psychic? You are basing your entire play on a poor performance by Pedro, who was once a top pitcher. If he pitches well or at least decent, you may be screwed since the Phillies are significantly better than the Cubs without Aramis.

No action on this game for me. I think Pedro is going to get roughed up considering his ERA was in the mid 5's during his rehab assignment.

Samardzija has also been roughed up. So it's a moot point. Why can't this be a pitcher's duel? Their ERAs dont indicate their future performances, just their current and past. Since there is no way we can predict how these starters will do, just ignore them and consider the other factors: defense, bullpen, offense.

OtherSide · 08-12-09, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by fifawcs

How do you know Pedro will pitch poorly? Are you a psychic? You are basing your entire play on a poor performance by Pedro, who was once a top pitcher. If he pitches well or at least decent, you may be screwed since the Phillies are significantly better than the Cubs without Aramis.

How do i know? I dont. If i did i would put everyting on it.
You need to relax GUY.Its a gamble just like any other bet on baseball.
Last night people swore the over in the ana/tb was free.And COLO and Twins?
Its called gambling.

No one truly knows if we did we would own the books.
You dont have to bet it i just have a gut the cubs win this one over Pedro.

ujacol · 08-12-09, 04:25 PM

yo gents, the total for this game is 10.5, wow.. phils had plenty of opportunities to score last night and they sucked it up.. i was thinking about this all day and i think pedro is going to have a decent game.. considering hes got a ton of past time mlb experience, ya he might be old and might get knocked around tonight, but i think theres a lot of pressure on him to take his time tonight and pitch like any other minor league pitcher being brought up and pitching for the first time.. i kinda like the under here.. i might be way off, but if im doing anything with this game thats what it is..

Rio DiNero · 08-12-09, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by fifawcs

Samardzija has also been roughed up. So it's a moot point. Why can't this be a pitcher's duel? Their ERAs dont indicate their future performances, just their current and past. Since there is no way we can predict how these starters will do, just ignore them and consider the other factors: defense, bullpen, offense.

I say Samardzija doesn't see the 5th, Phi bombs fastball pitchers. Do you like your chances with the Cubs bullpen? I'll take Pedro here, former Cy Young fighting for a rotation spot, trying to prove he can still throw.PHI BIG!

Mikail · 08-12-09, 05:07 PM

If I had to play this game. The under looks like the best side. A slight lean to Philly!

ujacol · 08-12-09, 05:10 PM

oh yea i totally agree mikail

sportsfreak475 · 08-12-09, 05:14 PM

Pedro? Are you kidding me? I don't understand why they dont go back to Chan Ho!

Panekkkk · 08-12-09, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by fifawcs

Samardzija has also been roughed up. So it's a moot point. Why can't this be a pitcher's duel? Their ERAs dont indicate their future performances, just their current and past. Since there is no way we can predict how these starters will do, just ignore them and consider the other factors: defense, bullpen, offense.

If you are confident in Pedro's 7 ER's in 12 IP's in the minors then by all means lay on the Cubs. There is no way this will be a pitcher's duel. With a team like the Phillies struggling to hit, the O/U is at 10.5. That ain't a typo! Cubs will be looking for revenge too after yesterday. I personally like the O 5.5 First Five but I'm gonna stay away. Complete wild card game.

paco · 08-12-09, 08:37 PM

looks like Pedro will be 1-0

Axis · 08-12-09, 09:19 PM

I'm glad this thread was made, or I never would have seen how terrible Semarjia's (w/e the spelling is lol) stats are...dude blooooows.

Unless Philly blows the 9 run lead...I'm lookin' good...

sorry this didn't work for you (maybe) but thanks.

Panekkkk · 08-12-09, 10:05 PM

Yeah, I shoulda bet first half over 5.5 like i was leaning!!! It was over by the top o 3rd

ujacol · 08-12-09, 10:22 PM

they will sweep the cubs tomorrow gentlemen. bank on it.

fifawcs · 08-12-09, 10:29 PM

I told you guys these starters were irrelevant.

OtherSide · 08-13-09, 01:18 AM

They call them loveable losers for a reason.
Pedro pitched really good.
Phily played like the champs they are!
Bad call on my part.Sorry guys!

Never trust the Cubs

Shortstop · 08-13-09, 01:25 AM

Not a big deal. Win it back tomorrow.

G's pks · 08-13-09, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by OtherSide

They call them loveable losers for a reason.
Pedro pitched really good.
Phily played like the champs they are!
Bad call on my part.Sorry guys!

Never trust the Cubs

I would not feel bad...honestly anyone doing their homework could have seen
Jeff Samardzija has started one game all year with an era over 6 before this game and now over 8 after the game...

He has averaged 1.5 hits per inning and just about a earned run for every inning pitched... And believe me most who have seen this guy pitch up to now would never have followed. He has struggled just about every single time out...

Seriously I doubt to many followed... G.

themajormt · 08-13-09, 08:46 AM

G if you did your homework why didnt you take the Phils??? Hindsight is 20/20 pal, its so easy to make picks after the result...

G's pks · 08-13-09, 08:48 AM

Also the Cubs are missing two starting pitchers from their rotation (only reason Samardzija was in) and their third baseman. Had nothing to do with not trusting the Cubs and everything to do with the starting pitcher and injuries.

G's pks · 08-13-09, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by themajormt

G if you did your homework why didnt you take the Phils??? Hindsight is 20/20 pal, its so easy to make picks after the result...

All my picks won yesterday... The stats are not hindsight they are there free for anyone to look at...

jjgold · 08-13-09, 08:51 AM

Pedro did not pitch great

be careful and don't lead this start mislead you because he won.

G's pks · 08-13-09, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Pedro did not pitch great

be careful and don't lead this start mislead you because he won.

JJ try to make sense... Also I did not like the game because it was a crap game to bet... It was a flip of the coin how Pedro was going to pitch... Samardzija pitched the way he has all year...

themajormt · 08-13-09, 08:58 AM

G I wasnt saying your picks lost yesterday... I was just commenting on the fact that you pointed out if anyone did their homework they would have saw bla bla bla bla bla...

So if you SAW that, then why not pound Philly??? Thats all I was saying...

G's pks · 08-13-09, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by fifawcs

How do you know Pedro will pitch poorly? Are you a psychic? You are basing your entire play on a poor performance by Pedro, who was once a top pitcher. If he pitches well or at least decent, you may be screwed since the Phillies are significantly better than the Cubs without Aramis.

This post here before and after the game obviously made the most sense.... Take the two biggest question marks on the board and try and pick a winner? There were 14 other games being played yesterday...

G's pks · 08-13-09, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by themajormt

G I wasnt saying your picks lost yesterday... I was just commenting on the fact that you pointed out if anyone did their homework they would have saw bla bla bla bla bla...

So if you SAW that, then why not pound Philly??? Thats all I was saying...

That is very simple to answer... I have said already who knew how Pedro would come out? This was the biggest game on the board to avoid!

In fact I just read your post before the game where you said pretty much the same thing!

G's pks · 08-13-09, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by themajormt

I agree Panek... This is a major crap shoot game and not worth taking. I dont think you can back either side and feel too comfortable about it. The pitchers are 2 big wild cards... Especially with Philly not hitting lately...

Here in case you forgot what you said...does not seem like you liked either team... Exactly how I felt....

Guys stats are there for you to look at...amazing how people will avoid using them and when they lose wonder why....

themajormt · 08-13-09, 09:06 AM

But we're talking about you here G... Dont worry about what I said

themajormt · 08-13-09, 09:08 AM

If I would have seen the Smorejackeoueen stats I would have backed Pedro... I made it an immediate no play based on 2 wild cards... BUT I would have taken Philly if I would have dug deeper and saw that...