Mr. Crumbs Paper Bag Plays and Leans for Thursday 6/11/09

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  • cocknocker
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    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #1
    Mr. Crumbs Paper Bag Plays and Leans for Thursday 6/11/09
    Today's Paper Bag Play (Lunchtime Play) is on the Red Birds. They are the superior team and it will show now that the wood is hot. Miller is an enigmatic underacheiver. Wellemeyer is a class pitcher and a gamer.

    Anyway the breakdown will come tomorrow for the games.

    Red Birds+100 HEAVY Paper Bag Play
    D-Backs-1.5 +135 Paper Bag Play (Scherzer is lights out)
    Twins-105 Paper Bag Play (The Twins are hot the A's are not)
    Yanks-1.5 +110 The streak ends today
    Mets-110*

    I will have my breakdown available in the morning. I already put in my HEAVY play on the Red Birds at +100. I love even money wagers.


    *Also i am looking at the movement on the Mets overnight as well. They have the potential to be a bigger play if the bats are correct.
  • JayRow
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-13-09
    • 871

    #2
    CK, What do you think about Greinke and KC at -135?
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    • tbill11
      SBR MVP
      • 03-15-09
      • 1451

      #3
      Jay Row...The Indians are trash this season and will be hurting without Sizemore and Cabrera on the field. I think Greinke's a good choice tomorrow...he got lit up in his last start and it wont happen again, especially not against a dreadful Indians team. Throw on the fact that Sowers is awful, and I think -135 is a gift on this one.
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      • Jimbo42
        SBR MVP
        • 01-04-09
        • 2076

        #4
        What up!... I love Paper Bag Plays!!!LOL

        okie dokie...
        Booked:

        Seattle +140
        Seattle -1.5 +210

        Atlanta -1.5 +130

        Cleveland +115
        Cleveland -1.5 +230
        (I'll take the home dog in a divsion rivalry coming off a loss... and pitchers are like teams.. after a streak of goodness is broken with badness... they many times follow up another badness..lol...you know what i mean)

        GL homies!!
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        • jellobiafra
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-08-09
          • 6291

          #5
          DET/CWS under 9


          Good luck!
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          • Panekkkk
            SBR MVP
            • 03-12-09
            • 2430

            #6
            Scherzer is far from lights out, especially at home... 8 ERA or something. SF might make a run here. Probably not tho
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            • cocknocker
              Restricted User
              • 11-06-08
              • 8001

              #7
              Right Panekkk, but this is one of those games where you have to ask yourself, "If Vegas were to make a ton of money on this game, what would have to happen? We have a consensus of

              Giants +1.5 96%
              D-Backs-1.5 4%
              Giants ML 42%
              D-Backs 58%

              So if the D-Backs were to beat the Giants by more than 1 run, Vegas would clean up on this game. And these are CURRENT consensus numbers too. I think that it is safe to say that I have lined up with the minority side of this game (4% of bettors on D-Backs -1.5), and that means that I am placing my money where the books money is.

              And on another note, I never use ERA numbers. They are VERY misleading about how a pitcher competes.
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              • Panekkkk
                SBR MVP
                • 03-12-09
                • 2430

                #8
                Originally posted by cocknocker
                Right Panekkk, but this is one of those games where you have to ask yourself, "If Vegas were to make a ton of money on this game, what would have to happen? We have a consensus of

                Giants +1.5 96%
                D-Backs-1.5 4%
                Giants ML 42%
                D-Backs 58%

                So if the D-Backs were to beat the Giants by more than 1 run, Vegas would clean up on this game. And these are CURRENT consensus numbers too. I think that it is safe to say that I have lined up with the minority side of this game (4% of bettors on D-Backs -1.5), and that means that I am placing my money where the books money is.

                And on another note, I never use ERA numbers. They are VERY misleading about how a pitcher competes.
                His WHIP is 1.70 BAA .308 at home. His WHIP is 2.065 in his last two home starts. But I do like your analysis his numbers just scare me. Thanks for the breakdown
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                • Panekkkk
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-12-09
                  • 2430

                  #9
                  Any leans on the Cubs / Stros game? I'm liking the Cubbies alot. Not the best value though
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                  • cocknocker
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-06-08
                    • 8001

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JayRow
                    CK, What do you think about Greinke and KC at -135?

                    It's a very public play, but it's a very strong one. I don't like to go over -135 vigorish, and in this case he is on the road. KC does have all of the ingredients and advantages that I look for in one of my plays, but the Indians were shut out yesterday, and the game has the look of Chicken Dinner. The public is all over the Royals with 80% of the consensus in their favor. If I were to play this game, I would have to take the Royals-1.5, as I don't think it's a good idea to pay that kind of vigorish for a road team. I just can't do it....
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                    • AC1318
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-09-06
                      • 6712

                      #11
                      blue jays +147 play of the day
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                      • jellobiafra
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-08-09
                        • 6291

                        #12
                        Anybody else like Lannan at a pretty fair price to salvage a game vs Owings and the Reds? I like Lannan and I don't like Owings. The more I think about this, the more it seems like the best play on the board to me.
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                        • sportsguy04
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-21-08
                          • 11885

                          #13
                          Went with:

                          Cardinals ML HEAVY

                          Detroit ML
                          Detroit/Chicago Under 8.5
                          Minnesota ML
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                          • jellobiafra
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-08-09
                            • 6291

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cocknocker
                            It's a very public play, but it's a very strong one. I don't like to go over -135 vigorish, and in this case he is on the road. KC does have all of the ingredients and advantages that I look for in one of my plays, but the Indians were shut out yesterday, and the game has the look of Chicken Dinner. The public is all over the Royals with 80% of the consensus in their favor. If I were to play this game, I would have to take the Royals-1.5, as I don't think it's a good idea to pay that kind of vigorish for a road team. I just can't do it....
                            I just threw a tiny bit at a 2-teamer with KC and WAS. Pays about 2-1. What the hell, right?
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                            • cocknocker
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-06-08
                              • 8001

                              #15
                              WHIP

                              STL 1.57
                              FLO 1.47

                              Advantage Florida

                              Power ranking

                              STL-135
                              FLO+135

                              Line

                              STL+104
                              FLO-112

                              Advantage Red Birds as Florida is a false favorite. The line is now STL-105/FLO-115

                              Slugging% last 3 games

                              STL .450
                              FLO .423

                              Advantage Red Birds

                              Bullpen WHIP last 3 games

                              STL 1.967
                              FLO 1.220

                              Advantage Florida

                              My pick: Red Birds+100 (Played last night) HEAVY The Red Birds are a superior team over the Marlins and it will show again today. Wellemeyer is a gamer and he will keep the Red Birds in the game. Miller is overrated and doesn't have that many innings underneath his belt this year. He is not ready to face a hot hitting Red Birds lineup.
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                              WHIP

                              MIN 1.32
                              OAK 1.40

                              Advantage Twins

                              Power ranking

                              MIN -110
                              OAK+110

                              Line

                              MIN+106
                              OAK-108

                              Advantage Twins as there is a false favorite in this game.

                              Slugging% last 3 games

                              MIN .426
                              OAK .269

                              Advantage Twins HEAVY

                              Bullpen WHIP Last 3 Games

                              MIN 0.864
                              OAK 1.975

                              Advantage Twins

                              My pick: Twins+100 The only reason it's not HEAVY is because the Twins are ahead in this series already. I will play it cool knowing that this is a long baseball season.

                              **************************************** **************************************** *

                              WHIP

                              SFO 1.67
                              ARI 1.43

                              Advantage D-Backs

                              Power ranking

                              SFO +147
                              ARI -147

                              Line

                              SFO+144
                              ARI-152

                              Advantage D-Backs as the line was spot on. I alread ytouched on the consensus numbers. No need to go over them again.

                              Slugging% Last 3 Games

                              SFO .426
                              ARI .323

                              Advantage Giants

                              Bullpen WHIP Last 3 Games

                              SFO 0.870
                              ARI 1.087

                              Advantage Giants

                              My pick: D-Backs-1.5 +135 The D-Backs are favored by this much out of nowhere. The public doesn't buy it and they are playing the Giants+1.5 at an alarming rate (96%). A lot of advantages for the Giants in this game except one. The element of surprise: the power of the books to know what the public doesn't know.

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                              WHIP

                              NYY 1.13
                              BOS 1.60

                              Advantage Yanks

                              Power ranking

                              NYY-160
                              BOS+160

                              Line

                              NYY-150
                              BOS+136

                              Advantage Yanks as for once this season they are slightly undervalued. They will always be a very publiclay so I disregard consensus numbers when wagering on the Yankees. If you are waiting for them to be a minority on a wager, you might as well quit wagering on baseball. It ain't happenin'. They have a fan base a moon long.

                              Slugging% Last 3 games

                              NYY .467
                              BOS .500

                              Advantage Boston

                              Bullpen WHIP Last 3 Games

                              NYY 0.985
                              BOS 1.099

                              Advantage Yanks

                              My pick: Yanks-1.5 +110

                              **************************************** **************************************** *

                              WHIP

                              PHI 1.51
                              MET 1.74

                              Advantage Phillies

                              Power ranking

                              PHI+104
                              MET-104

                              Line

                              PHI-110
                              MET+102

                              Advantage Mets as the wrong team is favored. With only 42% of bettors on their side the Mets are holding their own and keeping the line in their favor pushing this game to a -110 affair.

                              Slugging% last 3 games

                              PHI .518
                              MET 479

                              Advantage Phillies

                              Bullpen WHIP Last 3 Games

                              PHI 1.230
                              MET 1.000

                              My pick: Mets-110 of course. It is obvious that there is something up with this game, so I will take the fishy team that is holding their own despite the odds.
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                              • sportsguy04
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-21-08
                                • 11885

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                Anybody else like Lannan at a pretty fair price to salvage a game vs Owings and the Reds? I like Lannan and I don't like Owings. The more I think about this, the more it seems like the best play on the board to me.
                                Yeah Owings sucks. Im not sure why we have not sent him back down to AAA. Once Volquez is back, he will be sent down b/c Maloney the rookie had an outstanding game against the cubs in his MLB debut. Owings is the walk king.
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                                • cocknocker
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-06-08
                                  • 8001

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Panekkkk
                                  Any leans on the Cubs / Stros game? I'm liking the Cubbies alot. Not the best value though

                                  Don't touch games with pitching changes overnight. You never know what you're going to get. I wanted to play Scott Richmond pitching for the Blue Jays today, but he ws pushed back due to the rain-out yesterday in Texas. So I am laying off of that game altogether, you underdig? The Cubs may come out and dominate, but it is kind of hard to handicap a game with a pitching change overnight
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                                  • waiverwire
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-08-09
                                    • 125

                                    #18
                                    Really weak Marlins lineup today: http://dailybaseballdata.com/cgi-bin/lineup.pl
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                                    • hockeytown71
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 02-21-09
                                      • 95

                                      #19
                                      What about the Tigers! Ernest Jackson has been virtually unhittable as of late and it's basically a pk. Look at his whip in his last 3 (.69) and on the road (.90). This is all while pitching damn near complete games. The guy is a horse who goes deep into ballgames. I have to think the Tigers ml is a solid play today. As well as a smaller play on Under 8.5.
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                                      • Phillth
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-09-09
                                        • 1785

                                        #20
                                        My book shows the cards as a ML fav at -120 but the runline is +1.5 -240. this seems strange to me.
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                                        • peterpan19
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-02-08
                                          • 3377

                                          #21
                                          phillth
                                          not at all...bc STL opened as the dog...so the RL is correct
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                                          • ragiche
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-09-08
                                            • 3110

                                            #22
                                            My plays for today so far:

                                            Early Games.(BOOKED)

                                            Palehose PK (12x)

                                            Later Games. Note: If my early game cashes I will play them 2x each.If not 5x each.

                                            Snakes -1.5 +140 Tailing CK.

                                            Yanks -1.5 +110 Tailing CK.

                                            Twinkies -110 Tailing CK.

                                            GL all.
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                                            • Panekkkk
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-12-09
                                              • 2430

                                              #23
                                              Cards not looking good early and FLA with their weak lineup are starting to get to Welly!
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                                              • melincrea
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-20-09
                                                • 276

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Panekkkk
                                                Cards not looking good early and FLA with their weak lineup are starting to get to Welly!
                                                Yeah.. 3-1 early in the game, at 7-3 in hits.. not looking good at all.
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                                                • cocknocker
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-06-08
                                                  • 8001

                                                  #25
                                                  C'mon Red Birdies! Time for some runs!
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                                                  • melincrea
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 02-20-09
                                                    • 276

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                    C'mon Red Birdies! Time for some runs!
                                                    Agreed.
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                                                    • ebbearsfb1
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-07-08
                                                      • 18815

                                                      #27
                                                      andrew miller of a sudden is un hittable geezz... everytime i tail the heavy plays.....
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                                                      • El Sol
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-17-08
                                                        • 876

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                        phillth
                                                        not at all...bc STL opened as the dog...so the RL is correct
                                                        Dont think they opened as a dog, i got them 901 St Louis Cardinals +113 on the overnght

                                                        edit, obviously im tired.....
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                                                        • cocknocker
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-06-08
                                                          • 8001

                                                          #29
                                                          Money is burning! Somebody please call the fire department!
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                                                          • cocknocker
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-06-08
                                                            • 8001

                                                            #30
                                                            And no one is warming up in the bullpen. Time for an early shot of whiskey
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                                                            • wangichu
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-07-08
                                                              • 946

                                                              #31
                                                              i have to beg to differ with you. The A's won 7 straight prior to getting hit by the twinkies. They were very hot going into this series, i really expect them to bounce back and even it up. Haven't committed moneywise though.

                                                              Like the cards, debating on the mets.

                                                              have to like santana on the road getting plus money still. He came through for me against verlander and the angels are really coming around as a team. Meanwhile, until david price proves he can pitch past 5 innings i have to consider him an appropriate fade materia.

                                                              LAA ML
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                                                              • Panekkkk
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-12-09
                                                                • 2430

                                                                #32
                                                                Florida have 10 hits with a soft lineup going tonight to the Cards 3 (all in the first inning). This looks over

                                                                STL might be able to claw back but their hitting has been horrendous. Yesterday seemed somewhat of a fluke. A lot of runs scored on errors etc.
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                                                                • thegenix
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 11-14-08
                                                                  • 339

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Cards blowing it.
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                                                                  • cocknocker
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 8001

                                                                    #34
                                                                    In between innings here in the 6th no one is warming up. Wellemeyer is coming out for more punishment in the 7th. Money is roasting.
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                                                                    • thegenix
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 11-14-08
                                                                      • 339

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                                      In between innings here in the 6th no one is warming up. Wellemeyer is coming out for more punishment in the 7th. Money is roasting.
                                                                      Agh. They need to get him the hell out of there!
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