Mr. Crumbs Leans for 6/9/09

oiler · 06-09-09, 09:16 AM

as bad as dontrelle pitched last game,the soxs are so inconsistent i wouldnt lay a run and a half on the soxs

cocknocker · 06-09-09, 09:27 AM

Also look for me to take the Twins later on as the streak for the A's will come to an end. The only seperating that game from being a play on the big board for me was that the Twins are behind the A's in hitting .352 to .260.

Outside of that, the Twins have a 50/50 shot of winning this game and so I will take them for a late night snack. I am not listing it yet as I want to watch the line all day before I play it.

BCaldwell32 · 06-09-09, 09:31 AM

Hey guys, I live in Vegas and was betting my games through a private book online that is no longer available to me. I wanna set up an account online and wanted some recommendations from you guys for good online books that are easy to cash out from. Thanks in advance for your help.

jellobiafra · 06-09-09, 09:57 AM

BCald,
I would recommend Matchbook, 5dimes or BetJam. I used to play exclusively at the Greek, but they don't offer $.10 baseball lines. I simply couldn't stand for that anymore.

For tonight I took :

LAA/TB under 8.5.

Don't know if it's still available anywhere for 8.5 but I'd take it at 8 too. Good luck everyone!

thegenix · 06-09-09, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by jellobiafra

BCald,
I would recommend Matchbook, 5dimes or BetJam. I used to play exclusively at the Greek, but they don't offer $.10 baseball lines. I simply couldn't stand for that anymore.

This is going to make me seem even dumber but what do you mean by $.10 lines?

G's pks · 06-09-09, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by thegenix

This is going to make me seem even dumber but what do you mean by $.10 lines?

Meaning of a ‘Dime Line'
Question
Hi there, please can you explain what a ‘dime line' means in baseball betting.
Answer
A dime line is a betting line where the price difference between the favorite and the underdog is ten cents. So, if the favorite is -130, and the ‘dog is +120, then that game has a dime line. By comparison, point spread sports like the NFL and NBA are bet with a 20 cent line, since both sides are -110.
Dime lines are great for the player because the house edge is smaller. Consider: If a book hangs two NFL teams at -110 the house edge is 4.54%. . Now take a look at a dime line in baseball where the favorite is -110 and the ‘dog is +100. In a game like this the house edge is around 2%. Baseball bettor are almost always better off finding books that offer dime lines, since you'll usually be getting a better payoff on your bets than you would be at a shop that deals twenty cent lines.

thegenix · 06-09-09, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by G's pks

Meaning of a ‘Dime Line'
Question
Hi there, please can you explain what a ‘dime line' means in baseball betting.
Answer
A dime line is a betting line where the price difference between the favorite and the underdog is ten cents. So, if the favorite is -130, and the ‘dog is +120, then that game has a dime line. By comparison, point spread sports like the NFL and NBA are bet with a 20 cent line, since both sides are -110.
Dime lines are great for the player because the house edge is smaller. Consider: If a book hangs two NFL teams at -110 the house edge is 4.54%. . Now take a look at a dime line in baseball where the favorite is -110 and the ‘dog is +100. In a game like this the house edge is around 2%. Baseball bettor are almost always better off finding books that offer dime lines, since you'll usually be getting a better payoff on your bets than you would be at a shop that deals twenty cent lines.

Thanks so much!

sportsguy04 · 06-09-09, 10:46 AM

CK what about my Red Legs?

-117 at nationals with Cueto on the mound.

G's pks · 06-09-09, 10:48 AM

Thegenix you are welcome good luck today...

cocknocker · 06-09-09, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by sportsguy04

CK what about my Red Legs?

-117 at nationals with Cueto on the mound.

Yuh know, I almost went with them but the movement is not there for such a public lay. I would have liked to have seen a bigger spike, but the Red Leggins' slugging % over the last three games is a paltry .271. I just can't lay them when they aren't hitting. I see that the power ranking has Cincy -178 though. Cueto goes deep into games. Zimmerman is journeyman material to be sure. But he has he run production behind him. The Nats bats are hot and Cincy's are not

cocknocker · 06-09-09, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by jellobiafra

BCald,
I would recommend Matchbook, 5dimes or BetJam. I used to play exclusively at the Greek, but they don't offer $.10 baseball lines. I simply couldn't stand for that anymore.

For tonight I took :

LAA/TB under 8.5.

Don't know if it's still available anywhere for 8.5 but I'd take it at 8 too. Good luck everyone!

Now you see why I jumped ship. They have gotten too far ahead of themselves now. I called up Rejay at Greek sportsbook and asked him about the differential in the lines this year and he couldn't give me a solid answer. I felt that it was a sign of disrespect for the amount of time and joint business that I had shared with them by using their product. And once I questioned the sincerity if the product they didn't want to confide in me. That's not cool and Greek.com can kiss my ass. I started ringing them up about a month ago and requested all my cash over a series of weeks. And they still pimped me for Moneygram charges on the way out the door.

macadams · 06-09-09, 11:25 AM

Baltimore favoured? WTF, linemaker asleep at the wheel?

Recap from yesterday:

ATL 2 units @1.76 WIN

June record: -4.7 units

Also leaning towards LAA

ragiche · 06-09-09, 11:34 AM

Went to a party yesterday which was a boring one.I've no choice but to follow the boss.As for my plays for tonight's game.I definately follow my boss (CK) here.

MLB: (ALL BOOKED)

Palehose -1.5+150 (5x) Tailing CK.

Mariners +110 (5x) Tailing CK.

Twinkies PK (5x) Road woes ends here.

Rays -135 (5x) It's good to be back home with longoria back.

Phillies +145 (5x) Tailing CK.

WNBA: (BOOKED)

Fever -2 (5x) Tailing CK.

NBA: (BOOKED)

Lakeshow +7.5 [bought 3pts.] (5x) Tailing CK.

GL GUYS hope we beat the books tonight

.There are too many goodies for tonight that hard to ignore.

Still thinking if i'm gonna play the NATS and the RED BIRDS. small play only,but not yet official.

BCaldwell32 · 06-09-09, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by jellobiafra

BCald,
I would recommend Matchbook, 5dimes or BetJam. I used to play exclusively at the Greek, but they don't offer $.10 baseball lines. I simply couldn't stand for that anymore.

For tonight I took :

LAA/TB under 8.5.

Don't know if it's still available anywhere for 8.5 but I'd take it at 8 too. Good luck everyone!

Thanks, I think I'm gonna go with 5 dimes, I like the early lines better and no fee for cashing out is great.

Spaceviews · 06-09-09, 12:00 PM

CK, I use the greek as my book now, its the only one i've ever used (which hasn't been that long) I have the utter most respect for your point of view & feel that their lines ARE a little funny. I have'nt requested my winnings from them yet. I am going to switch books. I guess i have 2 ?s for you. Which book do you use? & Is moneygram the best way to get my $ back from the greek without taking it in the backside too much. Thank you in advance.

Jimbo42 · 06-09-09, 12:51 PM

what up!
got some BIG crumbs today...

Booked:
Florida +108
Florida -1.5 +230

Kansas City +180
Kansas City -1.5 +260

Philadelphia +155
Philadelphia -1.5 +240

NY Yankees +120
NY Yankees -1.5 +185

GL

KingRevolver · 06-09-09, 01:06 PM

Alright, Cocknocker...I'm going to give you one more shot. I'm betting on the Mariners.

MrMonkey · 06-09-09, 01:09 PM

Jimbo, glad you like the Yanks! Everyone in their lineup seems to be hitting over .300 against Beckett with 30+ ABs! Plus I don't think the Yanks have won yet in the series this year! Anyone have any opinion if I place bet now at +124 or wait till I leave for work! Thanks!

MrMonkey

macadams · 06-09-09, 01:15 PM

Lidge to the DL, Longoria no hits last 10 plate appearances (due or just sucky atm?).

macadams · 06-09-09, 01:17 PM

There are JM games today, no?

macadams · 06-09-09, 01:21 PM

Played:

4 units CLE @ 1.49
~~Angels 2 units @ 2.2~~ (Laid the original pick at equal odds)
~~DET 2 units @ 2.56~~ (Laid the original pick @ .02 from equal odds)

Parlay:
1 KC @ CLE @ 1.43
2 CIN @ WSH @ 1.86
3 SEA @ BAL @ 2.16
4 LAA @ TB @ 2.16

.5 units to win 6.24 units

Panekkkk · 06-09-09, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Yuh know, I almost went with them but the movement is not there for such a public lay. I would have liked to have seen a bigger spike, but the Red Leggins' slugging % over the last three games is a paltry .271. I just can't lay them when they aren't hitting. I see that the power ranking has Cincy -178 though. Cueto goes deep into games. Zimmerman is journeyman material to be sure. But he has he run production behind him. The Nats bats are hot and Cincy's are not

Honestly, the Nationals are the Nationals. I got this game at -110 which I think is amazing value. I'm starting a new chase system that just fades the Nationals. I will only do this when they are on the road but I'm pretty sure it can be done at home. We'll see =)

cocknocker · 06-09-09, 01:57 PM

Panekkkk

Well a word of advice on your chase system. Why don't you just take the series price against them at the beginning of each series if you feel that way. It's much less risk than just blindly fading them. Then your money is free to do other things.

jellobiafra · 06-09-09, 02:04 PM

Hey Spaceviews --

You can do a book to book transfer to Bet Jamaica. As long as it's at least $500. There's no fee involved and it takes about 30 minutes for the funds to show up at BetJam.

Set up an account at BetJam, then call the Greek to transfer your funds. You will even get the sign up bonus from BetJam (20% if it's a new account... or a reload if you already have an account there - 10%).

This is the best advice you will receive today!

Panekkkk · 06-09-09, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Panekkkk

Well a word of advice on your chase system. Why don't you just take the series price against them at the beginning of each series if you feel that way. It's much less risk than just blindly fading them. Then your money is free to do other things.

I think I can get more value taking 2 of 3 games in a series for example. And series lines won't match up to ML lines. Oddsmakers still seem to be putting some faith in the Nats... I don't get it. Not a bad idea though. Pinny also doesn't offer series bets.

Pick'nParlays · 06-09-09, 02:24 PM

CK!!!! I wanna go hard on Matt Cain. Would the under be a better play?

sportsguy04 · 06-09-09, 02:38 PM

WASHINGTON CHANGES PITCHERS!! NOT THAT IT REALLY MATTERS!!

Ross Detwiler:

0-2 ERA 5.23 Pretty much same as Zimmerman.

Reds ML moves from -117 to -120.

melincrea · 06-09-09, 02:39 PM

Is the JM Baseball play the runline(+1.5) or the moneyline today?

cocknocker · 06-09-09, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Pick'nParlays

CK!!!! I wanna go hard on Matt Cain. Would the under be a better play?

Arizona is the appropriate play. WHIP is in thier favor. The slugging% over the last 3 games are in their favor as well. The D-Backs will have the carry-over effect working in their favor too after all of those innings.

cocknocker · 06-09-09, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Panekkkk

I think I can get more value taking 2 of 3 games in a series for example. And series lines won't match up to ML lines. Oddsmakers still seem to be putting some faith in the Nats... I don't get it. Not a bad idea though. Pinny also doesn't offer series bets.

There's a reason for that. You will get burned by vigorish if you do, or break even. Think of the likelihood. Would they go on a four game winning streak or lose four straight series? I don't want to find out. I'm gonna go against them four straight series. A four game winning streak by them if you're blindly fading them will wipe you out with the vig involved. You are more insulated against them having a four game winning streak if you bet against them for four straight series. I'm only trying to pad your pockets, man. Listen to me. I know what I'm doing.

Spaceviews · 06-09-09, 03:15 PM

JELLOBIAFRA, THANK YOU for the response, That sounds like the best way to go. No bullsh*t fees to deal with.
Your LAA/TB under(i got it at 8) play looks good enough to tail. So I'm with you there. Tailing CK as well.
Thanx again for your reply & all the hard work you guys put into these plays. BEST OF LUCK TO ALL

Panekkkk · 06-09-09, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

There's a reason for that. You will get burned by vigorish if you do, or break even. Think of the likelihood. Would they go on a four game winning streak or lose four straight series? I don't want to find out. I'm gonna go against them four straight series. A four game winning streak by them if you're blindly fading them will wipe you out with the vig involved. You are more insulated against them having a four game winning streak if you bet against them for four straight series. I'm only trying to pad your pockets, man. Listen to me. I know what I'm doing.

Pinny doesn't have series bets but you are right. On the flip side I can't see the Nats winning 4 straight on the road. Can you? I'd probably only play the upper eschelon teams but yah I hear ya. Just a thought :P

Pick'nParlays · 06-09-09, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Arizona is the appropriate play. WHIP is in thier favor. The slugging% over the last 3 games are in their favor as well. The D-Backs will have the carry-over effect working in their favor too after all of those innings.

gotcha CK. are you also saying that the over is correct play?

VictoriousSecret · 06-09-09, 03:43 PM

gluck CK!!
I've been also reading your WNBA forum. Def. tailing on tonite's play, fever!
keep up the good work