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  • oilcountry99
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-29-10
    • 707

    #36
    Originally posted by koreatine
    1-1 in Notable Lines last night.

    22-21 (+425) in August

    Official plays 8-6 (+188) in August

    Notable Lines for Today:

    Reds +119 (Must close worse than +117)
    White Sox +174 (Must close worse than +141)
    A's +192 (Must close worse than +141)
    Dbacks -126 (Must close worse than -128)
    Padres +174 (Must close worse than +174) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< +141 ????
    Phillies +128 (Must close worse than +126)
    Typo?
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    • koreatine
      SBR Hustler
      • 08-14-17
      • 66

      #37
      Originally posted by oilcountry99
      Typo?
      Yes. Thank you
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      • Pickem2win
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-16-11
        • 978

        #38
        I was just in the 538 site...have you ever looked at the results of taking strong pitching +44 or better and a winning percentage over 60%?? I just parlayed the ML for Cleveland and Washington.
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        • koreatine
          SBR Hustler
          • 08-14-17
          • 66

          #39
          Originally posted by Pickem2win
          I was just in the 538 site...have you ever looked at the results of taking strong pitching +44 or better and a winning percentage over 60%?? I just parlayed the ML for Cleveland and Washington.
          Idk if you looked at my spreadsheet but I do have the pitchers value taken into equation. I highlighted the pitchers in yellow that have a +10 advantage. Whether that isn't enough, too much, or whatever the case may be remains to be seen. I haven't focused too much on those yet.

          That's kind of why I would like to partner with a database guy. So we can manipulate some data to see if there is a legitimate edge that can be gained using the pitching values.

          Right now I have not taken those into equation at all, but I'm hoping at some point I can.
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          • oilcountry99
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-29-10
            • 707

            #40
            Originally posted by koreatine
            Yes. Thank you
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            • koreatine
              SBR Hustler
              • 08-14-17
              • 66

              #41
              Got another win with the Reds tonight.

              Hoping to build a streak.
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              • dtd069
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-19-14
                • 702

                #42
                get to my level
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                • koreatine
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 08-14-17
                  • 66

                  #43
                  Originally posted by dtd069
                  get to my level
                  That probably won't happen from a "forum" aspect. This is a fun time killer, but nothing more than that for me.
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                  • koreatine
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 08-14-17
                    • 66

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Pickem2win
                    I was just in the 538 site...have you ever looked at the results of taking strong pitching +44 or better and a winning percentage over 60%?? I just parlayed the ML for Cleveland and Washington.
                    So, out of the games I have. Pitchers with a 44+ are 25-11 for +353

                    If you narrow that down to them also having to have a 65% win probability or better, they're 12-1. Those games you're basically talking about Kershaw, Kluber and Scherzer with one game of Sale.
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                    • Jowframs
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-10-09
                      • 5128

                      #45
                      Nice Hit Brother....Thanx
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                      • Pickem2win
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-16-11
                        • 978

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Pickem2win
                        I was just in the 538 site...have you ever looked at the results of taking strong pitching +44 or better and a winning percentage over 60%?? I just parlayed the ML for Cleveland and Washington.
                        Easy winner...

                        Can't find 2 teams with pitching advantage of +40 or better today. Boston definitely qualifies at +55 and 64% chance of winning. Next best team was Arizona at +27 pitching and 56% chance. I parlayed those ML at +133 odds but it's not exactly what I wanted...
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                        • koreatine
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 08-14-17
                          • 66

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Pickem2win
                          Easy winner...

                          Can't find 2 teams with pitching advantage of +40 or better today. Boston definitely qualifies at +55 and 64% chance of winning. Next best team was Arizona at +27 pitching and 56% chance. I parlayed those ML at +133 odds but it's not exactly what I wanted...
                          Yeah. I've never been somebody who's bet crazy MLs, except if it was a dog. At the 65% with the +44 qualification, you're talking about -200 and above and I agree, parlaying the games will be the way to go if any and I don't know how many times there are two games on the night that fit that criteria given that there are only 3-4 pitchers that warrant those kind of numbers to begin with.

                          Everything I do is so that I "DON'T" have to bet those games.

                          I've got a couple other systems I'm using to balance out the lack of games my manipulated system puts out. I get about 2-3 games a day total between the systems.
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                          • koreatine
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 08-14-17
                            • 66

                            #48
                            3-2 in Notable Lines last night and 1-0 in official plays.

                            Notable lines 25-23 (+640) in August
                            Official plays 9-6 (+296) in August



                            Today's Notable Lines:


                            Rays -129 (Must close at -130 or worse)
                            Athletics +164 (Must close at +140 or worse)
                            Mets -109 (Must close at -110 or worse)

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                            • koreatine
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 08-14-17
                              • 66

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Jowframs
                              Nice Hit Brother....Thanx
                              Thanks Rams. Hopefully we can get the Mets today, and who knows, maybe the A's will also drop to +140 or below like we need them to.
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                              • koreatine
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 08-14-17
                                • 66

                                #50
                                Mets and A's will be cutting it close.
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                                • koreatine
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 08-14-17
                                  • 66

                                  #51
                                  Second night in a row the late (1 min before start) line move ends up knocking the game out of "official play" status.

                                  Last night Red Sox, and tonight Mets were still bet for me and some of my guys, but fortunately for us they both won.

                                  This is the nature of the beast when it comes to betting line moves and having thresh holds, but luckily the notable lines, are lines that still do well in the long run.
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                                  • koreatine
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 08-14-17
                                    • 66

                                    #52
                                    1-2 in Notable Lines last night

                                    Notable Lines 26-25 (+527) in August
                                    Plays 9-6 (+296) in August


                                    Today's Notable Lines:

                                    Yankees -108 (Must close -110 or worse)
                                    A's +188 (Must close +140 or worse)
                                    Padres +104 (Must close +103 or worse) Hoping Padres can stay in play status.
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                                    • Pickem2win
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 09-16-11
                                      • 978

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Pickem2win
                                      Easy winner...

                                      Can't find 2 teams with pitching advantage of +40 or better today. Boston definitely qualifies at +55 and 64% chance of winning. Next best team was Arizona at +27 pitching and 56% chance. I parlayed those ML at +133 odds but it's not exactly what I wanted...
                                      So far 1-1 in this experiment with BOTH Boston and Arizona loosing yesterday....

                                      Today going with the Giants with a 64% chance of winning and +41 pitching. Still can't find that perfect 2nd team to parlay....going with the best I can find which is the Mets at 57% chance of winning and +41 pitching.

                                      Parlaying both at +123 odds.
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                                      • koreatine
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 08-14-17
                                        • 66

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Pickem2win
                                        So far 1-1 in this experiment with BOTH Boston and Arizona loosing yesterday....

                                        Today going with the Giants with a 64% chance of winning and +41 pitching. Still can't find that perfect 2nd team to parlay....going with the best I can find which is the Mets at 57% chance of winning and +41 pitching.

                                        Parlaying both at +123 odds.
                                        Cool bro. You're welcome to my sheets just to see if you can spot any sort of line move trend or whatever the case may be to maybe strength the plays or widen your thresh holds rather than just go with the pitching value and the win %.

                                        You might want to take into consideration first 5 since those values are for starting pitching.

                                        538 is a great source imo, but just like everything it's all how you use the data. I'm sure there's an edge that can be gained with the pitching values, it just might not be as simple as what you're doing now.

                                        For my manipulated games system. It was something I had read in a book a while back so I just started doing some sorts implementing that approach to try to get my data to mirror the manipulated games and that's how the system I've been posting was developed. The data that was showing up based on the way I was sorting the games with the deflation/inflation backed up what I was thinking/knew the entire time.

                                        Try to think of something "more," some kind of logical approach in relation to baseball or the sports betting industry in general. Be as creative as you can and and then try to manipulate the data to fit that scenario and see what the results look like. That's what I recommend.
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                                        • boonie26
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 10-16-09
                                          • 30

                                          #55
                                          Notable Lines

                                          Curious why Baltimore and Minnesota were not included in the Notable Lines for today? Thanks for your time and efforts.
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                                          • Pickem2win
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-16-11
                                            • 978

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by koreatine
                                            Cool bro. You're welcome to my sheets just to see if you can spot any sort of line move trend or whatever the case may be to maybe strength the plays or widen your thresh holds rather than just go with the pitching value and the win %.

                                            You might want to take into consideration first 5 since those values are for starting pitching.

                                            538 is a great source imo, but just like everything it's all how you use the data. I'm sure there's an edge that can be gained with the pitching values, it just might not be as simple as what you're doing now.

                                            For my manipulated games system. It was something I had read in a book a while back so I just started doing some sorts implementing that approach to try to get my data to mirror the manipulated games and that's how the system I've been posting was developed. The data that was showing up based on the way I was sorting the games with the deflation/inflation backed up what I was thinking/knew the entire time.

                                            Try to think of something "more," some kind of logical approach in relation to baseball or the sports betting industry in general. Be as creative as you can and and then try to manipulate the data to fit that scenario and see what the results look like. That's what I recommend.
                                            It's interesting that all the underdogs here are winning vs the favorite with the "superior" pitching... even the first 5 innings all favorites were down in 4 straight games.

                                            So far only 2 winners out of 6 favorites on the 538 site (with the strongest pitching edge. Your actually better off betting the underdogs! Of course this is only a 3 day sample...
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                                            • koreatine
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 08-14-17
                                              • 66

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by boonie26
                                              Curious why Baltimore and Minnesota were not included in the Notable Lines for today? Thanks for your time and efforts.
                                              When I entered the data those lines weren't out yet. Been a busy day.

                                              You're welcome.
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                                              • koreatine
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 08-14-17
                                                • 66

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Pickem2win
                                                It's interesting that all the underdogs here are winning vs the favorite with the "superior" pitching... even the first 5 innings all favorites were down in 4 straight games.

                                                So far only 2 winners out of 6 favorites on the 538 site (with the strongest pitching edge. Your actually better off betting the underdogs! Of course this is only a 3 day sample...
                                                Exactly. It's definitely something to pay attention to.
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                                                • koreatine
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 08-14-17
                                                  • 66

                                                  #59
                                                  Yesterday 2-3 in Notable Lines and 0-2 in Plays. The A's managed to hit at a +233 dog so the day was salvaged as a break even day.

                                                  Notable Lines: 28-28 +524 in August
                                                  Plays: 9-8 +60 in August


                                                  Notable Lines since June 18: 95-85 +1794
                                                  Plays since June 18: 52-29 +2412



                                                  Pretty dull month, but hey, we're still up money off notable lines. Not nearly as beastly of a month as July, but it's nice to see "some" profit rather than a tanking system fresh off it's biggest month of the year.



                                                  Thank you to boonie26 for spotting Baltimore and Minnesota. I did not list them because at the time I did my sheet, lines were not up and I didn't get home until 9pm.


                                                  No Plays Today.
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                                                  • koreatine
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 08-14-17
                                                    • 66

                                                    #60
                                                    Notable Lines: 28-28 +524 in August
                                                    Plays: 9-8 +60 in August

                                                    Today's Notable Lines:

                                                    Phillies -119 Game 1 (Must close -121 or worse)
                                                    Pirates +108 (Must close +106 or worse)
                                                    Phillies +119 Game 2 (Must close +118 or worse)


                                                    Pirates already into favorite status. I have them locked in at -102 and have the Phillies for game 2 locked in at +104
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                                                    • OlDirtyBaztid
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 05-28-17
                                                      • 953

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by koreatine
                                                      Notable Lines: 28-28 +524 in August
                                                      Plays: 9-8 +60 in August

                                                      Today's Notable Lines:

                                                      Phillies -119 Game 1 (Must close -121 or worse)
                                                      Pirates +108 (Must close +106 or worse)
                                                      Phillies +119 Game 2 (Must close +118 or worse)


                                                      Pirates already into favorite status. I have them locked in at -102 and have the Phillies for game 2 locked in at +104
                                                      glad to see phils made the cut. locked them in before i even read that
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                                                      • koreatine
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 08-14-17
                                                        • 66

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by OlDirtyBaztid
                                                        glad to see phils made the cut. locked them in before i even read that
                                                        Good stuff ODB. Good luck to us
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                                                        • oilcountry99
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-29-10
                                                          • 707

                                                          #63
                                                          did you pack it in? cricket...cricket
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