GO! The "I tail the next poster, with half of my BR" -system

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  • Scrivero
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-30-17
    • 673

    #1
    GO! The "I tail the next poster, with half of my BR" -system
    Rules of the system are simple:

    I tail the next poster with half of my BR.

    Definitions:
    - "Next poster": The play that is posted in this thread by ANYONE after I have said "GO!". No matter if you want me to win or lose with your play, I tail it.
    - "Half of my BR": Either bet half of my BR when the odds are minusodds OR bet to win half of my BR if the odds are plusodds.
    - "BR": 9 units (from my previous line movement thread, which bored me already after 1 day). BR and hence the bets will increase if I win, see below for in depth rules.

    In depth rules:
    - I always play half my BR or to win half my BR. I will though make it 1/3 and 1/4 of my BR if I get to circa 45 and 70 units, respectively. I will define the change points later, if we ever get there.
    - I never bet less than 1 unit, hence I will bet my whole BR if it goes under 2 units.
    - This is similar to reverse martingale but not quite. The betting pattern is different and I dont have a certain bail out point.

    Projections with even odds:
    - I lose 4 nights in a roll, BR goes to 0 (minus 4.5, minus 2.25, minus 1.125, minus 1.125).
    - I win 4 nights in a roll, BR goes to circa 45 units (plus 4.5, plus 6.5, plus 10, plus 15).

    So, without further adue... GO!

    And to clarify, when I say "GO!", it means that you can post any play you want, and I will tail it with half of my BR. And no, I still havent stopped my fade system, I just dont have the 1.5 to 2 hours per day to do it. This system should take 5 minutes per day which is perfect. This system is also very very gambly and interesting for me, unlike the hideous line movement system. So... GO!

    Edit. Only MLB. All lines Pinnacle.
  • SouthBayGame
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-18-10
    • 636

    #2
    Cardinals -160
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    • JPTerriers8
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-01-17
      • 208

      #3
      Darn it I was trying to be first and give you a HUGE GIFT
      senators +175
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      • DiggityDaggityDo
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-30-08
        • 81463

        #4
        Go Cards!
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        • Scrivero
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-30-17
          • 673

          #5
          Originally posted by SouthBayGame
          Cardinals -160
          Thanks!

          Starting BR: 9 units

          5/21 play, 4.5 units: Cardinals -146
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #6
            Originally posted by JPTerriers8
            Darn it I was trying to be first and give you a HUGE GIFT
            senators +175
            I'm no hockey expert but huge gift? I'd agree odds of them winning most likely much better than line suggest but still you have to admit less than 50% no? Might be a great play but guy needs winners or he busto fast. Surely we wanna give him something that better than a coin flip not worse don't we?
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            • Scrivero
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-30-17
              • 673

              #7
              Originally posted by JPTerriers8
              Darn it I was trying to be first and give you a HUGE GIFT
              senators +175
              I appreciate the thought man! Though this is only MLB (I forgot to add it to the first post). And Southy was faster too.
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              • Scrivero
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-30-17
                • 673

                #8
                Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                Go Cards!
                Go Cards indeed! I appreciate the love!
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                • Scrivero
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-30-17
                  • 673

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  I'm no hockey expert but huge gift? I'd agree odds of them winning most likely much better than line suggest but still you have to admit less than 50% no? Might be a great play but guy needs winners or he busto fast. Surely we wanna give him something that better than a coin flip not worse don't we?
                  lol why do I never know if you are actually serious or not But you speak the truth in any case, I appreciate the kind words!
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                  • JPTerriers8
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-01-17
                    • 208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    I'm no hockey expert but huge gift? I'd agree odds of them winning most likely much better than line suggest but still you have to admit less than 50% no? Might be a great play but guy needs winners or he busto fast. Surely we wanna give him something that better than a coin flip not worse don't we?
                    Your correct I misspoke it's not a gift. But with the line it's very hard not to throw some money on it. With those odds I'll take the coin flip. Good thing I was to late with the post and go Cards
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                    • Scrivero
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-30-17
                      • 673

                      #11
                      I didnt come here now to celebrate a possible win (even if it does look good right now) but to let everyone know that... do NOT post the play for tomorrow before I actually say the magic word and ask you to do it. As I wont tail the play if the post comes before I post my "GO!" post. Basically I will post the result of the previous night alongside with the current BR and the amount I will bet for the next game, and at the same time I will give everyone free hands to post whatever MLB play they wish, and I will tail the first one with half of my new BR.

                      I might wait until tomorrow afternoon European time so that the Americans too will have a chance to post a play. I might arlready earlier post the result of the previous night's game earlier though and the BR and the amount to bet on the next game, and then give the "GO!" in a separate post later. I will see what to do.
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JPTerriers8
                        Your correct I misspoke it's not a gift. But with the line it's very hard not to throw some money on it. With those odds I'll take the coin flip. Good thing I was to late with the post and go Cards
                        I find in the playoffs when you talking about a superior team like penguins who not gonna lose this series that can become "false" value. As sure in a vacuum you would think Ottawa had a better chance to win than odds suggest after all it a hockey gm all you need to pull upset a fortunate bounce or 2 and a hot goaltender. However when you take out of the vacuum and realize it a pivotal game 5 that will go a long way in deciding series then chances penguins lose become far less likely imo.. I'm sure gm 6 they will offer a nice price on Ottawa at home but imo the only way to get involved rest of way is to back pit with a willingness to lay the heavy chalk and chase gm 7 as surely you don't believe pit losing this series?
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                        • JPTerriers8
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 05-01-17
                          • 208

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          I find in the playoffs when you talking about a superior team like penguins who not gonna lose this series that can become "false" value. As sure in a vacuum you would think Ottawa had a better chance to win than odds suggest after all it a hockey gm all you need to pull upset a fortunate bounce or 2 and a hot goaltender. However when you take out of the vacuum and realize it a pivotal game 5 that will go a long way in deciding series then chances penguins lose become far less likely imo.. I'm sure gm 6 they will offer a nice price on Ottawa at home but imo the only way to get involved rest of way is to back pit with a willingness to lay the heavy chalk and chase gm 7 as surely you don't believe pit losing this series?
                          I didn't expect a blowout like this. Was thinking a 2-1 game possibly 3-2 and thought there might be a good chance they tie it up and win in OT or have that chance at the end to get a W.
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                          • Scrivero
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-30-17
                            • 673

                            #14
                            5/21 play, 4.5 units: Cardinals -146 WIN +3.082 units

                            Thanks SouthBayGame! And people, dont worry if your play doesnt hit when I tail it, one cant hit everything.

                            Starting BR: 9 units
                            Current BR: 12.082 units

                            With the next tail we will bet to win 6.041 units with plusodds and bet 6.041 units with minusodds.

                            BUT, dont post your play yet. I will say "GO!" when its ok to post it (as I wont tail the plays that are posted before I say it). I will give the ok in circa 6 hours from now.
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                            • Scrivero
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-30-17
                              • 673

                              #15
                              GO! I will tail the next MLB-play posted in this thread!
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                              • JPTerriers8
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 05-01-17
                                • 208

                                #16
                                Yankees ML -167 or Yankees RL +125 flip a coin
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                                • Scrivero
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-30-17
                                  • 673

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JPTerriers8
                                  Yankees ML -167 or Yankees RL +125 flip a coin
                                  Thanks! The first play is the Yankees ML so I will take that one in accordance with the thread rules.

                                  5/21 play, 4.5 units:Cardinals ML -146 WIN +3.082 units
                                  5/22 play, 6.041 units: Yankees ML -175

                                  Starting BR: 9 units
                                  Current BR: 12.082 units
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                                  • JPTerriers8
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-01-17
                                    • 208

                                    #18
                                    Winner winner
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                                    • Scrivero
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-30-17
                                      • 673

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JPTerriers8
                                      Winner winner
                                      Indeed! Thanks for the winner JP

                                      5/21 play, 4.5 units: Cardinals ML -146 WIN +3.082 units
                                      5/22 play, 6.041 units: Yankees ML WIN -175 +3.452 units

                                      Starting BR: 9 units
                                      Current BR: 15.534 units

                                      Our next bet is for 7.767 units. I will post the "GO!" a bit earlier today, probably in 1 or 2 hours, so wait a while with your plays still.
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                                      • Scrivero
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-30-17
                                        • 673

                                        #20
                                        GO! You (literally anyone) can now post any MLB play you want and I will tail it with half of my BR.
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                                        • jeffchitown
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-21-16
                                          • 1859

                                          #21
                                          Rangers +1.5 -110
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                                          • Scrivero
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-30-17
                                            • 673

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jeffchitown
                                            Rangers +1.5 -110
                                            Thanks!

                                            5/21 play, 4.5 units: Cardinals ML -146 WIN +3.082 units
                                            5/22 play, 6.041 units: Yankees ML WIN -175 +3.452 units
                                            5/23 play, 7.767 units: Rangers +1,5 -109

                                            Starting BR: 9 units
                                            Current BR: 15.534 units
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                                            • JPTerriers8
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 05-01-17
                                              • 208

                                              #23
                                              Like the play. Gonna do it myself but for first five. Don't trust there BP. Best of luck keep it rolling
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                                              • Scrivero
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-30-17
                                                • 673

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JPTerriers8
                                                Like the play. Gonna do it myself but for first five. Don't trust there BP. Best of luck keep it rolling
                                                Thanks man, I appreciate it Good luck! This is a fun and exciting little system for sure.
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                                                • JPTerriers8
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 05-01-17
                                                  • 208

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Scrivero
                                                  Thanks man, I appreciate it Good luck! This is a fun and exciting little system for sure.
                                                  Of course it's fun it's WINNING, watch this thread and our collective plays win the most units this year
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                                                  • Scrivero
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-30-17
                                                    • 673

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by JPTerriers8
                                                    Of course it's fun it's WINNING, watch this thread and our collective plays win the most units this year
                                                    Lets hope so!
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JPTerriers8
                                                      Of course it's fun it's WINNING, watch this thread and our collective plays win the most units this year
                                                      Don't like this next play at all.
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                                                      • Scrivero
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-30-17
                                                        • 673

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                        Don't like this next play at all.
                                                        I have no idea if its a good play or not, gotta roll with the system. Losses are inevitable too. I would though rather play and lose a +200 play than a -110 play as that would take a smller slice of the BR. -110 and -200 plays are the same value in this system. I lose the whole half of my BR if the play loses. Hence I would rather play a -200 play tahn a -110 play. Hopefully this system lasts forever, so going broke is the biggest fear.
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                                                        • crackerjack
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-01-06
                                                          • 3366

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                          Don't like this next play at all.
                                                          Not a horrible play but maybe not the best on the board. I like this thread though...fun times.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Scrivero
                                                            I have no idea if its a good play or not, gotta roll with the system. Losses are inevitable too. I would though rather play and lose a +200 play than a -110 play as that would take a smller slice of the BR. -110 and -200 plays are the same value in this system. I lose the whole half of my BR if the play loses. Hence I would rather play a -200 play tahn a -110 play. Hopefully this system lasts forever, so going broke is the biggest fear.
                                                            Yea Honestly think you been better of with the money line here. Mostly cause I like there to be runs in this game (although line seems to be moving against me) which of course to me means the 1.5 far less valuable. Hope it cashes buddy.
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                                                            • Scrivero
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-30-17
                                                              • 673

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                              Yea Honestly think you been better of with the money line here. Mostly cause I like there to be runs in this game (although line seems to be moving against me) which of course to me means the 1.5 far less valuable. Hope it cashes buddy.
                                                              I agree for sure about the ML being better but at the same time I do believe that the odds at least most of the time describe the chances of a game ending with a certain score quite well. So basically the ML "should" hit less often (when calculated the difference in odds) than the +1.5, and in theory it wouldnt matter in the long run if one takes the ML or the +1,5. Of course the odds are also there to induce bets on specific plays/teams. Like you mentioned, the line movement seems to show that either it is actually expected that the match will be a bit lower scoring than it was supposed to be in the morning, and that the Rangers is not gonna be as expected to lose as it was in the morning. It could also just show that there have been "too many" bets on the Under and for Rangers and the bookies want more bets on the Over and on Boston to decrease their risk, hence the line movement. I dont know much about how the lines move though, so that was most likely just good or bad guesses. But yea, lets hope it cashes.

                                                              @crackerjack Fun times indeed! Lets hope we cash again.
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                                                              • garvardntl
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-11-16
                                                                • 372

                                                                #32
                                                                I used to do this with roulette. I made pitboss call red or black and bet it (or against it) in a predetermined fashion.

                                                                Good old times.
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                                                                • Scrivero
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 01-30-17
                                                                  • 673

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by garvardntl
                                                                  I used to do this with roulette. I made pitboss call red or black and bet it (or against it) in a predetermined fashion.

                                                                  Good old times.
                                                                  Sounds like fun! I gotta try that

                                                                  5/21 play, 4.5 units: Cardinals ML -146 WIN +3.082 units
                                                                  5/22 play, 6.041 units: Yankees ML WIN -175 +3.452 units
                                                                  5/23 play, 7.767 units: Rangers +1,5 -109 LOSS -7.767 units

                                                                  Starting BR: 9 units
                                                                  Current BR: 7.767 units

                                                                  Little change to rules:
                                                                  - only ML bets, no RL. O/U bets are fine too.

                                                                  I will give the GO! a bit later today, most likely in the afternoon. We will then bet half of 7.767 units.

                                                                  We shall start another rise!
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Tried to prevent this one man. Let me be the override! I'll say when you should wait for different play!! I don't wanna actually give you plays, you can always look in my thread but not into feeling responsible for you losing half bankroll. I'll happily tell you when to lay off a pick tho!
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                                                                    • Scrivero
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-30-17
                                                                      • 673

                                                                      #35
                                                                      GO! You can now post any MLB play that is ML or O/U and I will tail it with half of my BR.
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