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  • iloseagain
    Restricted User
    • 06-29-10
    • 10681

    #176
    angels? same.. opened -125 moved to -150

    hou? they won.. opened -175 moved to -200

    hou was the only one to win
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    • pigskinhedging
      SBR Rookie
      • 01-02-16
      • 26

      #177
      So if I am reading this correctly just using Bookmaker against home teams


      Rockies W Line Movement for CUBS -> -200 -> -240
      Braves W Line Movement for MIA -> -185 -> -210
      TWINS W Line Movement for Angels -> +105 -> +136
      Royals W Line Movement for OAK-> -105 -> -119 (Below .20 fade threshold but close)

      PADRES L
      Line Movement for D-backs -> +100 -> +133
      Detroit L Line Movement for HOU -> -175 -> -210

      So still 4 wins out of 2 here. Mostly I want to see if I am looking at this correctly. The team I first list is the team with the Line moving against them and if in caps they are the home team. Thus you'd hope that the team on the far left wins if you are fading against the line movement. Is this correct? I then show the team that is the beneficiary of the Line Movement, and finally I'm showing the line per Bookmaker which is always listed per the home team. So a home dog is a positive number in my chart (SD and Twins).
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      • iloseagain
        Restricted User
        • 06-29-10
        • 10681

        #178
        ^^^ i have oak opening at -115 and ending around -115.. i woudnt count that one
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        • iloseagain
          Restricted User
          • 06-29-10
          • 10681

          #179
          today twins opened at EV and now -126
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          • iloseagain
            Restricted User
            • 06-29-10
            • 10681

            #180
            stl -175 to -143
            mia -180 to -130
            dodgers -120 to sf -109
            sd -120 to zona -107
            bal -120 to tex -112
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #181
              MIN TT over 4.5 (+110) (4U to win 4.4)
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #182
                Originally posted by iloseagain
                ^^^ i have oak opening at -115 and ending around -115.. i woudnt count that one
                You need to check your opening lines.
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #183
                  4-1, +6.32U last night
                  27-17, +17.00U thread
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                  • iloseagain
                    Restricted User
                    • 06-29-10
                    • 10681

                    #184
                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                    You need to check your opening lines.
                    youre right but they opened at -105 and went to -115 then.. bookmaker open -105 end -115. 10 cents..
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                    • Louisvillekid1
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-17-07
                      • 52143

                      #185
                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                      MIN TT over 4.5 (+110) (4U to win 4.4)
                      Like this
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #186
                        Originally posted by iloseagain
                        youre right but they opened at -105 and went to -115 then.. bookmaker open -105 end -115. 10 cents..
                        They were +106 at BOL, +102 at Pinnacle and closed at -120 at a lot of sites. Not 20 full cents across the board, but pretty close (incredible, especially because books have already been giving free money away on KC for the third year in a row).
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #187
                          Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                          Like this
                          Thanks. I'd take the Twins, but don't trust Nolasco and hate taking a favorite that opened as a dog.
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                          • twestacott
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-02-14
                            • 1044

                            #188
                            Coiner whats you thoughts on Miami? Openned as -180 and now down to -133 at a lot of books. RedSox dropping as well from -150 to -133 at a lot of books.
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                            • StackinGreen
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-09-10
                              • 12140

                              #189
                              Under city

                              Looks like you're doing well though, NoCoin, keep it up
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                              • KRIT
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-11-14
                                • 12878

                                #190
                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                MIN TT over 4.5 (+110) (4U to win 4.4)
                                Was going to play Twins but not feeling laying -120 with them so I'm gonna take your Twins TT over. GL to us. You playing much of the NBA playoffs? Don't think I saw your thread over there.
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                                • BigDofBA
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-30-09
                                  • 19313

                                  #191
                                  St. Louis went from -179 to -133.

                                  That means the Cardinals have to be a play.....

                                  Wainwright shouldn't be juiced bc he just isn't the pitcher he used to be but that's too much line movement imo.

                                  I'm also on the Twins again today.
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                                  • iloseagain
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 06-29-10
                                    • 10681

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                    St. Louis went from -179 to -133.

                                    That means the Cardinals have to be a play.....

                                    Wainwright shouldn't be juiced bc he just isn't the pitcher he used to be but that's too much line movement imo.

                                    I'm also on the Twins again today.
                                    im just curious as to what the theory is behind playing against these huge line movements? i always thought it was smart to play the other way..
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                                    • pigskinhedging
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 01-02-16
                                      • 26

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                      Thanks. I'd take the Twins, but don't trust Nolasco and hate taking a favorite that opened as a dog.
                                      I am just looking at Covers main page I'll check Bookmaker but wouldn't the pick here be fading the Twins? Bookmaker opened at +100 (EV) and is now -120. Given that you like the TT for the Twins, Game Total and Angels on Money Line might be good picks as well although for me I don't know how much I want to throw at this one.
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                                      • pigskinhedging
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-02-16
                                        • 26

                                        #194
                                        Depending on who's book you use to track there is also line movement for the Cubs of greater than .20 which is mind-boggling given that they are laying over 300. So based on my quick check you could add these teams to the picks:

                                        LAA
                                        COL
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                                        • BigDofBA
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-30-09
                                          • 19313

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by iloseagain
                                          im just curious as to what the theory is behind playing against these huge line movements? i always thought it was smart to play the other way..
                                          I'm 4-0 fading these this year. I can't explain it but I'm going to roll with it until it stops winning.
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                                          • iloseagain
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 06-29-10
                                            • 10681

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                            I'm 4-0 fading these this year. I can't explain it but I'm going to roll with it until it stops winning.
                                            haha fair enough.. quite a few today.. GL
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                                            • iloseagain
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 06-29-10
                                              • 10681

                                              #197
                                              stl/mia/laa/bos/bal parlay.. fading all those movements.. lets see what happens. 1x pays 21.8x
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                                              • pigskinhedging
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 01-02-16
                                                • 26

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by iloseagain
                                                stl/mia/laa/bos/bal parlay.. fading all those movements.. lets see what happens. 1x pays 21.8x

                                                KC Royals... Oak line moved from -110 -> -147
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                                                • twestacott
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-02-14
                                                  • 1044

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by pigskinhedging
                                                  KC Royals... Oak line moved from -110 -> -147
                                                  That's due to pitching change though. Sonny Gray is now the starter so does not apply.
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                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                    • 19313

                                                    #200
                                                    Twins have had several chances to have big innings but can't get guys home from 2nd and 3rd with one out.
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                                                    • iloseagain
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 06-29-10
                                                      • 10681

                                                      #201
                                                      damn min had the chance last inning.. 2nd and 3rd no outs and they couldnt do it
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                                                      • BigDofBA
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-30-09
                                                        • 19313

                                                        #202
                                                        Really needed that Homer by the Twins. Whewwww
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                                                        • pigskinhedging
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 01-02-16
                                                          • 26

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by twestacott
                                                          That's due to pitching change though. Sonny Gray is now the starter so does not apply.
                                                          Shit I missed that. So if there is any pitching change at all, scratch it? Or does the pitching change have to be one way or the other or just any change at all? Royals are screwing up a Parlay I have with Boston ML and Golden State -13. 4 more ABs but damn I wouldn't have included them.
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                                                          • BigDofBA
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-30-09
                                                            • 19313

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by pigskinhedging
                                                            Shit I missed that. So if there is any pitching change at all, scratch it? Or does the pitching change have to be one way or the other or just any change at all? Royals are screwing up a Parlay I have with Boston ML and Golden State -13. 4 more ABs but damn I wouldn't have included them.
                                                            Just because a line moves more than 20 cents doesn't mean you need to lose your mind and bet the farm.

                                                            With that said, I've been trying to make 1-2 unit bets when I notice it and I have been very successful. Even when I see it and don't play it, fading the line movement seems to win a lot more than it should.

                                                            It's just a trend I have notice. Coin can vouch for it as well.
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #205
                                                              1-0, +4.4U yesterday
                                                              28-17, +21.4U thread


                                                              PHI +130 (3U to win 3.9)
                                                              SEA +121 (2U to win 2.42)
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                                                              • No coincidences
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-18-10
                                                                • 76300

                                                                #206
                                                                HOU -125 (2.5U to win 2)
                                                                COL +1.5 (+100) (1U to win 1)
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                                                                • mlb
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-04-09
                                                                  • 10509

                                                                  #207
                                                                  These Wrigley lines are already insane less than 2 weeks into the season. A lot of season left to be -250+ every game.
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                                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                                    • 19313

                                                                    #208
                                                                    WTH happened to Kluber?

                                                                    He can't get anyone out now.
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                                                                    • Breadloser
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-16-16
                                                                      • 568

                                                                      #209
                                                                      The Mets won't score for the rest of the day. Matz will get bombed. Get on Cleveland +400
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                                                                      • iloseagain
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 06-29-10
                                                                        • 10681

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                                        WTH happened to Kluber?

                                                                        He can't get anyone out now.
                                                                        unreal.. given up 6 already
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