question, say you are about to bet a "C" bet but the RL is -220. Do you bet the ML instead to recoup the money lost on bets "A" and "B" or do you adjust your wager amount on the RL to something very heavy to make up the loss?
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cambertos
SBR Sharp
06-16-12
329
#388
Originally posted by rkelly110
Shit, now I have to do a B bet on LAD. Doing a reverse Tony on the unofficial bets.
Damn! the kershaw money line was disgusting!! glad it cashed for you
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takethepnts
SBR Wise Guy
10-18-13
581
#389
Originally posted by bravoman81
question, say you are about to bet a "C" bet but the RL is -220. Do you bet the ML instead to recoup the money lost on bets "A" and "B" or do you adjust your wager amount on the RL to something very heavy to make up the loss?
Unfortunately, MOST of the 'chase' systems are set up for taking our posted team 'ML' when favoured / +1.5 as the Dog. What you can do to keep costs down if you don't mind 'pushing' the (A) game, is take the -1.0 (For Faves) / +1.0 For Dogs, since you are not trying to recover losses so a push won't hurt you BUT on a loss, your risk was less. After the (A) game, You MUST follow the exact guidelines since a push would leave you down from the previous wagers. That's the long answer. Regardless of the price, You MUST wager ML fave /+1.5 Dog if chasing a loss.Good luck!
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rkelly110
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-05-09
39691
#390
Originally posted by cambertos
Damn! the kershaw money line was disgusting!! glad it cashed for you
Thanks man. I bet the run line and cashed.
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bravoman81
SBR High Roller
05-12-15
103
#391
Originally posted by takethepnts
Unfortunately, MOST of the 'chase' systems are set up for taking our posted team 'ML' when favoured / +1.5 as the Dog. What you can do to keep costs down if you don't mind 'pushing' the (A) game, is take the -1.0 (For Faves) / +1.0 For Dogs, since you are not trying to recover losses so a push won't hurt you BUT on a loss, your risk was less. After the (A) game, You MUST follow the exact guidelines since a push would leave you down from the previous wagers. That's the long answer. Regardless of the price, You MUST wager ML fave /+1.5 Dog if chasing a loss.Good luck!
thats what i thought thanks! guess its called chase for a reason!!!
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#392
2015Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system
Official season series record: 9-2 Units w/l -23.95 (05/08 CLE -16.55, 05/13 WAS -16.40)
Unofficial season series record: 21-0 Units w/l +22.20
Last Play(s) results: Official 05/16 WAS under (C)WIN(-134) 05/16 BOS over (A)LOSS (-105)
Official Plays
(A) 6-6
(B) 1-4
(C) 1-3
(D) 1-2
Unofficial Plays
(A) 13-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 3-0
Next Play(s): Official 05/17 BOS over (B)
NOTES: We have 3 possible plays going today. One is unofficial.
***** Juice will be posted on the following day based on closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total. Covers.com will be used for closing lines.
Rules of the system can be found on post #14. However, the official season will end July 31 and not August 31.
Disclaimer Notice: Play at your own risk.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#393
MLB Sweep System
2015 Official season series record 5-0 (A) 3-2
(B) 1-1
(C) 1-0
(D) 0-0
Unofficial series 8-0
(A) 5-4
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
(D) 0-0
Next Plays
Tomorrow
Upcoming plays 05/18 Oakland @ Houston 05/22 Chicago White Sox @ Minnesota 06/08 Milwaukee @ Pittsburgh 06/08 Arizona @ LA Dodgers
Notes: We've got 8 possible sweeps going today with future plays.
The rules are in post #15 and the filters in post #28. Records for the past 3 years can be found in posts #17, #18 & #19. This season we will only be playing the official and unofficial plays according to the rpi rankings at ESPN.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#394
We will have a Demo bet tomorrow on the Bluejays
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#395
MLB Sweep System
2015 Official season series record 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 1-1
(C) 1-0
(D) 0-0
Next Plays
*Unofficial* 05/18 Oakland (.454) @ Houston (.518) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set
Upcoming plays 05/22 Chicago White Sox @ Minnesota 06/05 Toronto v Houston 06/08 Milwaukee @ Pittsburgh 06/08 Arizona @ LA Dodgers
Notes: We picked up 4 sweeps yesterday.
06/05 TOR v HOU
08/06 MIA @ ATL
08/10 ARI v PHI
09/14 OAK @ CWS
The rules are in post #15 and the filters in post #28. Records for the past 3 years can be found in posts #17, #18 & #19. This season we will only be playing the official and unofficial plays according to the rpi rankings at ESPN.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#396
2015Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system
Official season series record: 9-2 Units w/l -23.95 (05/08 CLE -16.55, 05/13 WAS -16.40)
Unofficial season series record: 21-0 Units w/l +22.20
Last Play(s) results: Official
05/17 BOS over (B)LOSS (-115)
Official Plays
(A) 6-6
(B) 1-5
(C) 1-3
(D) 1-2
Unofficial Plays
(A) 13-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 3-0
Next Play(s): Official 05/19 BOS over (C) These all go tomorrow 05/19 CIN under (A) 05/19 SFO under (A)
NOTES: We have 2 possible plays going tomorrow.
P.S. Just wanted to mention something since I am always looking at systems for new angles. If you had started fading these plays since the official ones started and just flat bet every play you would be 17-11. Just an fyi.
***** Juice will be posted on the following day based on closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total. Covers.com will be used for closing lines.
Rules of the system can be found on post #14. However, the official season will end July 31 and not August 31.
The line on that Demo play on Toronto opened at -103 and has moved to +105 so it still qualifies as a play. Even if the line moves out of range but Toronto wins you know who will score it as a win so play it however you want,
P.S. It looks like there might have been a pitching change so the line has moved. Keep an eye on it.
"P.S. Just wanted to mention something since I am always looking at systems for new angles. If you had started fading these plays since the official ones started and just flat bet every play you would be 17-11. Just an fyi."
Just so I understand correctly, the Cleveland and Washington losses followed by a C and D series count as a record of 13-2?
If so, that logic would only work if we have losses every 4 or 5 plays which I sure as heck hope doesnt happen haha
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#399
Originally posted by allidoiswin89
"P.S. Just wanted to mention something since I am always looking at systems for new angles. If you had started fading these plays since the official ones started and just flat bet every play you would be 17-11. Just an fyi."
Just so I understand correctly, the Cleveland and Washington losses followed by a C and D series count as a record of 13-2?
If so, that logic would only work if we have losses every 4 or 5 plays which I sure as heck hope doesnt happen haha
I did count their wins on the second series. I don't know where you came up with 13-2. If you look at the A, B, C and D tallies they all add up with the one series pending. Please show me how you got 13-2.
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bravoman81
SBR High Roller
05-12-15
103
#400
Originally posted by hagball52
The line on that Demo play on Toronto opened at -103 and has moved to +105 so it still qualifies as a play. Even if the line moves out of range but Toronto wins you know who will score it as a win so play it however you want,
P.S. It looks like there might have been a pitching change so the line has moved. Keep an eye on it.
ehhhh Todd Redmond is starting and his numbers are horrid. could be the a double whammy though. Ehh
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#401
Originally posted by hagball52
I did count their wins on the second series. I don't know where you came up with 13-2. If you look at the A, B, C and D tallies they all add up with the one series pending. Please show me how you got 13-2.
I just went back and looked at my spreadsheet and found that there are 11 wins as opposed to the 9 that I have posted. So I made a mistake somewhere along the line. That week off really messed up my tracking. I don't have time right now but I will go back and get it corrected and fix the post but there are only 11 wins and not 13.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#402
Right now I've got
(A) 7-7
(B) 2-5
(C) 1-3 (1 series pending BOS)
(D) 1-2
I'll fix it in tomorrow's post
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allidoiswin89
SBR Wise Guy
03-22-11
915
#403
Originally posted by hagball52
I did count their wins on the second series. I don't know where you came up with 13-2. If you look at the A, B, C and D tallies they all add up with the one series pending. Please show me how you got 13-2.
Washington and Cleve both lost a series so the fade would be 8-0, no?
Then the 2nd series clev won on C and wash on D so 5-2
For 13-2 total when just looking at that string of games
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#404
Originally posted by allidoiswin89
Washington and Cleve both lost a series so the fade would be 8-0, no?
Then the 2nd series clev won on C and wash on D so 5-2
For 13-2 total when just looking at that string of games
I think I missed something there. Are we talking apples to oranges. So what you're saying is a fade on those 2 series would be a 13-2 record and I'm saying if you would have faded every single offio system play the record would be 17-11. And the proper system record is 11-2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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sbutters
SBR Rookie
05-11-15
2
#405
Does anyone have a good bankroll betting strategy using the sweeps system?
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allidoiswin89
SBR Wise Guy
03-22-11
915
#406
Originally posted by hagball52
I think I missed something there. Are we talking apples to oranges. So what you're saying is a fade on those 2 series would be a 13-2 record and I'm saying if you would have faded every single offio system play the record would be 17-11. And the proper system record is 11-2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The point is if u take out the two system losses the fade record would be 4-9...
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imotiv8
SBR Wise Guy
12-28-09
891
#407
Originally posted by allidoiswin89
The point is if u take out the two system losses the fade record would be 4-9...
You must not understand what he is talking about....28 games, straight betting every official play, the record would be 17-11
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allidoiswin89
SBR Wise Guy
03-22-11
915
#408
Originally posted by imotiv8
You must not understand what he is talking about....28 games, straight betting every official play, the record would be 17-11
I do, but clearly your not understanding my point
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Wallco99
SBR Hall of Famer
01-01-11
7261
#409
What's not to understand? If I am reading this correctly, you are saying that it takes six men to properly fill a pothole. One guy to pull up in the truck, one guy to rake the tar, two guys to hold a flag, and two other guys to stand and watch. If you were to fade this, it takes only one ice storm to divot the road. Seems pretty clear to me.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#410
Originally posted by allidoiswin89
The point is if u take out the two system losses the fade record would be 4-9...
Originally posted by imotiv8
You must not understand what he is talking about....28 games, straight betting every official play, the record would be 17-11
Originally posted by allidoiswin89
I do, but clearly your not understanding my point
Originally posted by Wallco99
What's not to understand? If I am reading this correctly, you are saying that it takes six men to properly fill a pothole. One guy to pull up in the truck, one guy to rake the tar, two guys to hold a flag, and two other guys to stand and watch. If you were to fade this, it takes only one ice storm to divot the road. Seems pretty clear to me.
I was just trying to make an observation and comment on it. Then it went a little sideways. Both the unofficial and official lost money last year to the tune of around 19 units and this year does not look promising with the 2 May losses but the unofficial has profited this year. I went back and looked at last seasons results and if you would have flat bet all official plays without fading you would have gone 58-51 so overall fading plays is probably not the best way to go. And Wallco, nice explanation....haha
Upcoming plays 05/22 Chicago White Sox @ Minnesota 06/05 Toronto v Houston 06/08 Milwaukee @ Pittsburgh 06/08 Arizona @ LA Dodgers
Notes: The (A) bet wins make my job easy. Also nice pick up on the Demo win.
The rules are in post #15 and the filters in post #28. Records for the past 3 years can be found in posts #17, #18 & #19. This season we will only be playing the official and unofficial plays according to the rpi rankings at ESPN.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#412
2015Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system
Official season series record: 11-2 Units w/l -21.95 (05/08 CLE -16.55, 05/13 WAS -16.40)
Unofficial season series record: 21-0 Units w/l +22.20
Last Play(s) results: Official
Official Plays
(A) 7-7
(B) 2-5
(C) 1-3
(D) 1-2
Unofficial Plays
(A) 13-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 3-0
Next Play(s): Official 05/19 BOS over (C) 05/19 CIN under (A) 05/19 SFO under (A)
NOTES: We have 5 possible plays going tomorrow. I corrected the results for the official season. I had forgotten to score a couple of wins. I must have missed them while I was away so everything should be accurate now.
***** Juice will be posted on the following day based on closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total. Covers.com will be used for closing lines.
Rules of the system can be found on post #14. However, the official season will end July 31 and not August 31.
Disclaimer Notice: Play at your own risk.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#413
Looks like another Demo bet tomorrow.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#414
MLB Sweep System
I'll update this page tomorrow.
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bravoman81
SBR High Roller
05-12-15
103
#415
Originally posted by hagball52
Looks like another Demo bet tomorrow.
The Marlins it is.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#416
2015Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system
Official season series record: 13-2 Units w/l -19.93 (05/08 CLE -16.55, 05/13 WAS -16.40)
Unofficial season series record: 21-0 Units w/l +22.20
Last Play(s) results:
Official 05/19 BOS over (C)LOSS (-125) 05/19 CIN under (A)WIN (-113) 05/19 SFO under (A) WIN (+102)
Official Plays
(A) 9-7
(B) 2-5
(C) 1-4
(D) 1-2
Unofficial Plays
(A) 13-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 3-0
Next Play(s): Official 05/20 BOS over (D) 05/20 CLE over (A)
NOTES: Oh Boy another (D) bet. Three possible plays today.
***** Juice will be posted on the following day based on closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total. Covers.com will be used for closing lines.
Rules of the system can be found on post #14. However, the official season will end July 31 and not August 31.
Disclaimer Notice: Play at your own risk.
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#417
Originally posted by bravoman81
The Marlins it is.
Good job! Does anybody have the real Demo record handy? I think it's 3-2 but not sure. I know the "Champ" is claiming twice as many wins to losses but that's not true.
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liqidzen
SBR Hustler
04-07-15
88
#418
Just wanted to mention hagball, that the first 3 games in the 5 game series must be lost by 2 or more, but the next 2 games can only be a single point loss, in order to qualify for demo. Does that help with your tally? Although he is probably just counting those postponed games due to weather to reach the high total
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#419
Originally posted by liqidzen
Just wanted to mention hagball, that the first 3 games in the 5 game series must be lost by 2 or more, but the next 2 games can only be a single point loss, in order to qualify for demo. Does that help with your tally? Although he is probably just counting those postponed games due to weather to reach the high total
I went back to post #40 and it doesn't mention anything about losses 4 and 5 as far as margin of loss. He is hammering me with emails about there being a play today. So is he manipulating the rules?
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snark
SBR Sharp
11-12-12
311
#420
I'm showing 3-2, +.66 units. 4/20 Mil -109 (L) 4/22 Colo -105 (W) 4/25 Balt -103 (W) 5/2 Colo -125 (L) & Tor -109 (W), with MIA tonight, if it doesn't get out of range.