Ali & Hayduke's Base Pickers

[mitch51]

I actually took your advice yesterday and faded the plays. In all honesty I got insanely lucky. No idea how ATL or WAS lost. I genuinely felt bad winning those plays. Two sick losses for you.

Are you kidding? That's AWESOME you're fading us! That's what we're here for, helping you make some cash. Keep fading, fading, FADING! We'll tell you if we think things are turning around. Absolutely no risk in fading us now, it's your job as a bettor. NEVER feel bad about fading anyone, especially us. It's part of betting.

[Artieaa]

Are you kidding? That's AWESOME you're fading us! That's what we're here for, helping you make some cash. Keep fading, fading, FADING! We'll tell you if we think things are turning around. Absolutely no risk in fading us now, it's your job as a bettor. NEVER feel bad about fading anyone, especially us. It's part of betting.

IMHO it takes a lot of guts to accept when something is not going well, kudos for that .... in the other hand I agree with Posey, twest and Larry cheers up try not to get fancy just to avoid this cold streak, my suggestion for you is to go back to the board room and just try to narrow your system criteria I am confident you will be able to find the broken piece of the system... if need any help with the patterns in your system please feel free to wire me .... GL!!!

[alamo]

I actually think nothing's wrong. Ali was brutally unlucky last night. That Atlanta game was the worst collapse I've seen not to mention Washington blowing a 5 run lead

[mitch51]

Hello everyone


06.12.15 No play on the early game 4pm ET CIN/CUBS


Be back later

Ali

[44 Mag]

Good day Mitch, Ali & Hayduke. Tonight I am going with: SF -1 1/2 + 155. BOL folks.

[mitch51]

Good day Mitch, Ali & Hayduke. Tonight I am going with: SF -1 1/2 + 155. BOL folks.

It looks like a good game to Mitch. I'm punishing him so he only gets to bet one game per day until he wins 3 in a row.

Ali

[mitch51]

Hi everyone


06.12.15 ALI DOGS

7pm ET
957 CO/Kendrick +130 1.00/1.30

10pm ET
977 OAK/Chavez +110 1.00/1.10




HAYDUKE

7pm ET
969 TOR/Hutchison -105 1.05/1.00




UMPIRES STREAKING

None


GLTA


Ali & Hayduke

[IrishLuck777]

It looks like a good game to Mitch. I'm punishing him so he only gets to bet one game per day until he wins 3 in a row.

Ali

who's the one that goes in to make the bets? better make sure to not send him with too much money lol

[mitch51]

who's the one that goes in to make the bets? better make sure to not send him with too much money lol

We do the bets online through local sportsbook since we live in Nevada. It makes it more convenient. Hahaha I place the bets on the phone for us both since I do all the book work.

Ali

[mitch51]

06.12.15 ALI DOGS

7pm ET
957 CO/Kendrick +130 1.00/1.30

10pm ET
977 OAK/Chavez +110 1.00/1.10




HAYDUKE

7pm ET
969 TOR/Hutchison -105 1.05/1.00




UMPIRES STREAKING

None


GLTA


Ali & Hayduke

UPDATE:

ALI DOGS
0-2 -2.00u
55-73 -8.96u 42.97%



HAYDUKE
1-0 +1.00u
46-54 -5.57u 46.0%


UMPIRES STREAKING
14-9 +1.68u 60.87%


Good night


Ali & Hayduke

[alamo]

Finally a miracle win for you with Toronto coming back from 8-1 down. Could this be the start of a good run ?

[RollinDo]

Part of me wants this week to end in mlb...very through one.
Riding O's streak tonight.
Love LAD tonight with Greinke...not much else looks good except Braves TT (U 3).
These will be my 3 plays...may add ChiSox - Rays (U 6.5) depending on HP ump.

[mitch51]

Finally a miracle win for you with Toronto coming back from 8-1 down. Could this be the start of a good run ?

I hope so. I never thought it was possible to win with a fave. Great comeback for Toronto. I'll just be betting one game a day for a while until I turn it around. Hopefully, it'll be soon.

[alamo]

Respect for the discipline. I'm getting back on board the Ali train. Doesn't feel right betting against yeh. Like cheering against your own club. Bad karma

[bossman71]

Very rough week... But it's all ups and down. Our time is coming. Let's kill it this week starting today

[mitch51]

Part of me wants this week to end in mlb...very through one.
Riding O's streak tonight.
Love LAD tonight with Greinke...not much else looks good except Braves TT (U 3).
These will be my 3 plays...may add ChiSox - Rays (U 6.5) depending on HP ump.

Looking at it too, Rays - ump Scott 12gm bhp 9ov/3un

Ali

[Lefty123]

Mitch the best have bad streaks.what makes you one of them you don't chase.It will turn around.

[mitch51]

Mitch the best have bad streaks.what makes you one of them you don't chase.It will turn around.

Thanks, Lefty. This has been a long streak. Chasing only compounds your problems, though. We'll come out of it pretty quick. Hopefully.

[mitch51]

Just heads up NO Play on early game 1:35pm ET/10:35am PT TOR/BOS


Be back later

Ali

[mitch51]

Hello everyone


06.13.15 ALI DOGS

4pm ET
903 ATL/Miller +145 1.00/1.45
929 KC/Guthrie +130 1.00/1.30



HAYDUKE

7pm ET
910 SFG/Vogelsong -145 1.45/1.00



UMPIRES STREAKING

4pm ET
906 MIL/WAS OV 8 -115 1.15/1.00
ump-Timmons 10gms bhp 6ov/4un 60.0% over

7pm ET
926 BAL/NYY OV 8.5 -105 1.05/1.00
ump-Meals 13gms bhp 7ov/4un 63.6% over


GLTA


Ali & Hayduke

[mitch51]

I almost forgot to post, a severe storm with high winds came through and still ongoing...

06.13.15 ALI DOGS

4pm ET
903 ATL/Miller +145 1.00/1.45
929 KC/Guthrie +130 1.00/1.30



HAYDUKE

7pm ET
910 SFG/Vogelsong -145 1.45/1.00



UMPIRES STREAKING

4pm ET
906 MIL/WAS OV 8 -115 1.15/1.00
ump-Timmons 10gms bhp 6ov/4un 60.0% over

7pm ET
926 BAL/NYY OV 8.5 -105 1.05/1.00
ump-Meals 13gms bhp 7ov/4un 63.6% over


GLTA


Ali & Hayduke

UPDATE:

ALI DOGS
1-1 +.45u
56-73 -8.51u 43.41%



HAYDUKE
0-1 -1.45u
46-55 -7.02u 45.54%



UMPIRES STREAKING
2-0 +2.00u
16-9 +3.68u 64.0%


Good night

Ali & Hayduke

[posey]

Back to winning ways.

[mitch51]

Back to winning ways.

Thanks, Posey. Takes a while to get this turned around. Hope things are going well in Germany. Have been there, beer capital of the world, lol.

[mitch51]

Good morning everyone


06.14.15 ALI DOGS

1pm ET
951 ATL/Foltynewicz +114 1.00/1.14

8pm ET
963 CIN/DeSclafani +145 1.00/1.45



HAYDUKE

4pm ET
960 SFG/Heston -145 1.45/1.00




UMPIRES STREAKING

1:30pm ET
972 BOS/TOR OV 8.5 -120 1.20/1.00
ump-Porter 10 gbhp 5ov/3un 62.5% Over

3pm ET
976 TX/MIN UN 9 -110 1.10/1.00
ump-Rackley 11gbhp 2ov/6un 75.% Under



GLTA

Enjoy your Sunday


Ali & Hayduke

[posey]

Thanks, Posey. Takes a while to get this turned around. Hope things are going well in Germany. Have been there, beer capital of the world, lol.

If your accustomed to German beer you will have a hard time in most other countries when you want some. Only the countries which have a border to Germany have quite good beer (on our standards). The young guys and girls often like the fancy and foreign stuff (like beers from Ireland or this 'beer' which isn't even one, something mixed up with juice or lemonade). But guys and girls from my age are much more traditional. Czech and Belgian beer is quite good, too, IMO. And of course Austrian beer. But well, Austria is more or less some kind of German.
Weather was good today, I hope baseball does what it has to do now.


Ah, and something I wrote in my thread. May be important for you too. Well, it has to do with your recent struggles. They weren't any surprises as dogs have lost 26 of the last 37 games. So if you pick lots of dogs (or ONLY dogs) you gonna lose of course when things like that happen.

But it will turn around soon.

[buddha]

I'm curious how guys historically have fared off of No Hitters.

Unfortunately do not know where even to begin to uncover such stats

W/L %, that when HOME or AWAY and + whatever other filters might be thought relevant.

If anyone happens to have data or knowledge, post.

I wonder if there is "letdown" or if Pitchers in their next game after they pitched No Hitter have again done well.

[stacks on deck]

I'm curious how guys historically have fared off of No Hitters.

Unfortunately do not know where even to begin to uncover such stats

W/L %, that when HOME or AWAY and + whatever other filters might be thought relevant.

If anyone happens to have data or knowledge, post.

I wonder if there is "letdown" or if Pitchers in their next game after they pitched No Hitter have again done well.

I think pitchers after a no hitter are a fade in their next game. Dont have the numbers though.

[Artieaa]

these are the no-no stats since 2008 in their next start,.... hope it helps

14-17 (-0.58, 45.2%)	avg line: -130.5 / 118.3	on / against: -$715 / +$565	ROI: -17.1% / +16.9%
12-17 (-1.81, 41.4%)	avg line: 114.9 / -127.4	on / against: -$514 / +$355	ROI: -15.3% / +8.8%
16-14-1 (0.58, 53.3%)	avg total: 7.9	over / under: +$35 / -$345	ROI: +1.0% / -10.2%

[Artieaa]

at home

7-8 (-0.20, 46.7%)	avg line: -144.1 / 129.7	on / against: -$405 / +$295	ROI: -18.7% / +19.2%
5-9 (-2.07, 35.7%)	avg line: 137.0 / -149.1	on / against: -$286 / +$249	ROI: -18.9% / +11.6%
9-6-0 (2.03, 60.0%)	avg total: 7.6	over / under: +$240 / -$375	ROI: +14.4% / -22.9%

away

7-9 (-0.94, 43.8%)	avg line: -116.9 / 106.9	on / against: -$310 / +$270	ROI: -15.4% / +15.0%
7-8 (-1.57, 46.7%)	avg line: -107.1 / -105.8	on / against: -$228 / +$106	ROI: -12.4% / +5.7%
7-8-1 (-0.78, 46.7%)	avg total: 8.1	over / under: -$205 / +$30	ROI: -11.5% / +1.7%

[buddha]

If your accustomed to German beer you will have a hard time in most other countries when you want some. Only the countries which have a border to Germany have quite good beer (on our standards). The young guys and girls often like the fancy and foreign stuff (like beers from Ireland or this 'beer' which isn't even one, something mixed up with juice or lemonade). But guys and girls from my age are much more traditional. Czech and Belgian beer is quite good, too, IMO. And of course Austrian beer. But well, Austria is more or less some kind of German.
Weather was good today, I hope baseball does what it has to do now.


Ah, and something I wrote in my thread. May be important for you too. Well, it has to do with your recent struggles. They weren't any surprises as dogs have lost 26 of the last 37 games. So if you pick lots of dogs (or ONLY dogs) you gonna lose of course when things like that happen.

But it will turn around soon.

It was my contention earlier in this thread that Dogs have well underperformed Historic % of success overall thus far.

Not a unique Idea of my own but a declaration of other poster I stole from SQDL thread.

I still maintain that this is the case, on a thus far basis, that Dogs Success (WIN) % is below if not well below whats been in past seasons...thus far this year.

This I maintain without any evidence to back it up whatsoever just based on observation.

If anyone has declarative stats please post.

Don't leave yet, I might have another 11 or 12 jobs for you guys, stats to research for me, questions to answer, jobs that I should be doing for myself but that I'll generously allow another to do for me.

...and if you're admitting posey that you guys in that region you and Austria are in are hoarding all the good beer then I am gonna assemble a crew to come over there and take all of you guyses beer just cuz you guys hoarding all the world's best beer is very very inconsiderate so therefore you guys deserve to have no beer at all.

To be more accurate I'd likely ask someone to assemble a crew on my behalf, arrange travel over there then go (the group of them) while I just continue to sit here on my ass doing nothing beyond asking others to do things for me and maybe thinking up more stuff I can ask people to do for me, just wait here and observe from a distance because, thinking it through further posey, there might be a response from Germans and Austrians and, were there a response, that response might be decidedly unpleasant. Were we (well them) to show up and try to seize all you guys Beer.

You'd know best probably posey. As you are there.

Do you expect there'd be a response? From the German and Austrian world, in this scenario crew of Americans show up try to take all the beer or would they be able to see the reason for our actions, agree that punishment for hoarding all the good beer was called for indeed deserved and just accept the removal of the beer gracefully?

And without resistance?

[buddha]

these are the no-no stats since 2008 in their next start,.... hope it helps

14-17 (-0.58, 45.2%)	avg line: -130.5 / 118.3	on / against: -$715 / +$565	ROI: -17.1% / +16.9%
12-17 (-1.81, 41.4%)	avg line: 114.9 / -127.4	on / against: -$514 / +$355	ROI: -15.3% / +8.8%
16-14-1 (0.58, 53.3%)	avg total: 7.9	over / under: +$35 / -$345	ROI: +1.0% / -10.2%

Thanks!!!!

and for the next one too

[44 Mag]

Sunday: Cinn. + 145. BOL To Mitch & the dogs and all the others in this thread.

[posey]

buddha, dogs are 392-497 this season (44.1% W), from 2008-2014 the dogs have won 42.0%. I had the same (wrong) impression of dogs underperforming, too. But I think it has more to do with 'unorthodox' dogs winning more this year and 'normal' dogs losing more often. Like when two good guys are up against other, it may have been often in the past that the dog has won, but now it doesn't. On the opposite site in the past some bad dog pitchers may have lost often in the past, but not so much this season. Don't know. The W% is surprising to me, too.

And regarding German beer: the popular ones (like Becks for example) are much worse than the small local breweries. So you maybe will not have a hard time to steal it from us since it is not very much but you wouldn't be satisfied for too long since you would have drunk it out very quickly. And then you would have to come back and start robbing us again.

[44 Mag]

buddha, dogs are 392-497 this season (44.1% W), from 2008-2014 the dogs have won 42.0%. I had the same (wrong) impression of dogs underperforming, too. But I think it has more to do with 'unorthodox' dogs winning more this year and 'normal' dogs losing more often. Like when two good guys are up against other, it may have been often in the past that the dog has won, but now it doesn't. On the opposite site in the past some bad dog pitchers may have lost often in the past, but not so much this season. Don't know. The W% is surprising to me, too.

And regarding German beer: the popular ones (like Becks for example) are much worse than the small local breweries. So you maybe will not have a hard time to steal it from us since it is not very much but you wouldn't be satisfied for too long since you would have drunk it out very quickly. And then you would have to come back and start robbing us again.

"Second Half" Is coming up quick.

[buddha]

If you guys would assemble all your best beers and, as Group posey, bring them to the airport to meet us it'd make everything go more smoothly.

Don't need Beck's, we want more exotic stuff. Beers that we cannot find over here.

Beck's we already steal off Beer Trucks and via arrangement with low level employees of Beer Distributors out Backdoor of warehouses where Beers are stored posey.