2013 MLB thread

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

i actually leaned det and porcello but just left alone..reading around the forums made me think i was crazy or something cause kept reading hell boy so much better than porcello and honestly i dont see it..was wondering if ppl just like saying hell boy, lol

Hellickson hasn't been very good this year by in large. Two unpredictable pitchers = easy no-play.

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

think i can explain that. almost every line they open westbrook at gets bet the other way so obvious of all cards starters perception lowest on him.. then i think the secret might finally be out about cards and their issues with soft tossing lefties, lines been so wrong with them the other direction against these guys that prob natural to go to the other extreme and more than likely lead ppl that been burnt swallowing juice vs badard, lilly, ect ect to instantly assume oh cards vs a lefty i know this drill and the books know it too with this line, or something like that, lol...

Maybe. I definitely think it's a good day to back the Cards, but I guess we'll have to see.

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Hellickson hasn't been very good this year by in large. Two unpredictable pitchers = easy no-play.

That way I looked at it, just cause hellickson been better of late those to both capable of doing a 180 fast

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Maybe. I definitely think it's a good day to back the Cards, but I guess we'll have to see.

I seriously came into weekend thinking they would lose series and I would be all over milone in this gm. Then Melvin put a lefty in to face Holliday w 1st and 3rd in a tight gm and I was thinking damn u clowns the book is out cause I've never seen such a thing, then Holliday delivers a hit then Adams who matheny never even let's bat vs lefties for some damn reason goes yard. Instantly I thought well but Adams gets a start today now! Then I started thinking could this crazy move by Melvin almost shame cards into deciding it was time to hit lefties? It ain't like the not capable, for whatever reason their whole approach changes and they turn into the braves flailing at everything. Just had feeling when Melvin made that move that it may have set off a spark.. Or I'm really high, lol. We know soon enough cause I normally don't deviate from my plan much going into cards series

**italianbandit** · 06-30-13, 01:52 PM

Nice call on Marlins yesterday.

I just bought Cubs +105, and Cubs FF -104 both for a unit. Price is off.

Jackson has pitched much better than his ERA (5.84) would indicate. He’s striking a fair number of batters and the walks aren’t terrible, plus he’s keeping the ball on the ground. It all adds up to a 3.78 FIP and 3.88 xFIP. The Mariners have one of the league’s worst offenses against right-handed pitchers with a high strikeout rate to boot. The wind is blowing in at Safeco Field, helping mute any fly balls he surrenders.
Bonderman was hit hard last week as the A's made lots of loud outs. I just don't buy his resurgence. Soriano and Castro are seeing and hitting the ball well. Meanwhile the Cubs bullpen has become more stable while the Mariners has become very volatile.

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 01:57 PM

I thought same thing ib, actual thought was I bet Edwin will enjoy pitching in that park! I called bonderman a fraud last week and he showed me up, don't know how but he getting ppl out. Strongly considered the under as well cause not sold regression coming fast w him , I'm sure it will to a extent but think it b be a gradual climb

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by italianbandit

Nice call on Marlins yesterday.

I just bought Cubs +105, and Cubs FF -104 both for a unit. Price is off.

Jackson has pitched much better than his ERA (5.84) would indicate. He’s striking a fair number of batters and the walks aren’t terrible, plus he’s keeping the ball on the ground. It all adds up to a 3.78 FIP and 3.88 xFIP. The Mariners have one of the league’s worst offenses against right-handed pitchers with a high strikeout rate to boot. The wind is blowing in at Safeco Field, helping mute any fly balls he surrenders.
Bonderman was hit hard last week as the A's made lots of loud outs. I just don't buy his resurgence. Soriano and Castro are seeing and hitting the ball well. Meanwhile the Cubs bullpen has become more stable while the Mariners has become very volatile.

Good luck IB. Certainly makes sense, but I hate schizo Jackson. Who knows when that guy will show up. There's a reason he's pitched for like 22 big league ballclubs.

First inning dictates a lot.

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Good luck IB. Certainly makes sense, but I hate schizo Jackson. Who knows when that guy will show up. There's a reason he's pitched for like 22 big league ballclubs.

First inning dictates a lot.

in that park he outta be able to get away with fastballs up for fly outs..

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

in that park he outta be able to get away with fastballs up for fly outs..

True.

**italianbandit** · 06-30-13, 02:45 PM

The key for this play for me is fading Bonderman. I watched his last game, and he was getting hit hard- it was just at people. I'm betting that this will continue.

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by italianbandit

The key for this play for me is fading Bonderman. I watched his last game, and he was getting hit hard- it was just at people. I'm betting that this will continue.

I don't see how it couldn't. Then again, I watch guys like Locke, Corbin and Colon overachieve start after start after start and wonder how they do it. Teflon uniforms? I'm not saying these guys aren't good, but waiting for their inevitable regression has been a painful process.

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Like Toronto, Miami and possibly Milwaukee today, but no plays. BOL to everyone.

Fish continue to be a money maker lately.

**italianbandit** · 06-30-13, 03:05 PM

And fading the Padres.

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Fish continue to be a money maker lately.

blow jays continue to be a pain in the ass..bases damn loaded no outs and cant plate 1 damn run..that shit drives me insane..

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by italianbandit

And fading the Padres.

somehow even that one went over as well IB, lol..

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

blow jays continue to be a pain in the ass..bases damn loaded no outs and cant plate 1 damn run..that shit drives me insane..

I've watched a little of this game -- it's like they're trying to lose.

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by italianbandit

Nice call on Marlins yesterday.

I just bought Cubs +105, and Cubs FF -104 both for a unit. Price is off.

Jackson has pitched much better than his ERA (5.84) would indicate. He’s striking a fair number of batters and the walks aren’t terrible, plus he’s keeping the ball on the ground. It all adds up to a 3.78 FIP and 3.88 xFIP. The Mariners have one of the league’s worst offenses against right-handed pitchers with a high strikeout rate to boot. The wind is blowing in at Safeco Field, helping mute any fly balls he surrenders.
Bonderman was hit hard last week as the A's made lots of loud outs. I just don't buy his resurgence. Soriano and Castro are seeing and hitting the ball well. Meanwhile the Cubs bullpen has become more stable while the Mariners has become very volatile.

+109 at Blowdog for anyone who wants to tail IB.

**No coincidences** · 06-30-13, 03:18 PM

Right on cue, Edwin Jackson gives up a leadoff double.

It's like the guy is sleeping before he starts a game.

**Big Bear** · 06-30-13, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I don't see how it couldn't. Then again, I watch guys like Locke, Corbin and Colon overachieve start after start after start and wonder how they do it. Teflon uniforms? I'm not saying these guys aren't good, but waiting for their inevitable regression has been a painful process.

Phillies ( Hamels) visit the Pirates and (Locke) on Tuesday....

you gonna bet on phillies?

**Sharp_Cheddar** · 06-30-13, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Phillies ( Hamels) visit the Pirates and (Locke) on Tuesday....you gonna bet on phillies?

Are you getting lines on that game, or is it just a stupid question?

**Big Bear** · 06-30-13, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Sharp_Cheddar

Are you getting lines on that game, or is it just a stupid question?

neither. and yes its serious question...

there is no line yet but i expect Pirates to be -120 to - 130 range.

**italianbandit** · 06-30-13, 03:54 PM

Cubs have hit 3-4 blasts that would have been home-runs in other parks. Game could be 8-0. I'll look to fade Bonderman next start as well.

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by italianbandit

Cubs have hit 3-4 blasts that would have been home-runs in other parks. Game could be 8-0. I'll look to fade Bonderman next start as well.

Chill bro, we good and I'm trying to cash the under too. Want them all after jays once again screwing me,

**2daBank** · 06-30-13, 04:04 PM

Nc I might do a lot of shit wrong but god damn do I know my cards! Ya know how hard it was to actually play them vs a soft tossing lefty when I pretty much created the rule? And as predicted they mashing him

**Big Bear** · 06-30-13, 04:09 PM

great call!

Milone is getting shelled

**italianbandit** · 06-30-13, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Chill bro, we good and I'm trying to cash the under too. Want them all after jays once again screwing me,

Sorry about TOR, that sucked. Ok man, I'll be even happier if ends this way (4-1). I want the stats to show that Bonderman had just a so-so start not he got rocked.

**whtsox13** · 06-30-13, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by italianbandit

The key for this play for me is fading Bonderman. I watched his last game, and he was getting hit hard- it was just at people. I'm betting that this will continue.

Baby Bears awful bullpen totally negating Bonderman's awfulness.

**Big Bear** · 06-30-13, 06:55 PM

coiner ... late game...

who u taking?

**leetreaper** · 06-30-13, 07:01 PM

Balty and Under is possible

**leetreaper** · 06-30-13, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by leetreaper

Balty and Under is possible

**2daBank** · 07-01-13, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

great call!

Milone is getting shelled

and yet those fukkers still lose. i mean what can ya do? i almost always fade cards vs that kind of lefty but saw something sat that made me think they would hit milone, 5 runs in 1st 3 innings then they go to sleep at the plate and on defense. team in worst funk of the season, which i mean is fine with me as a fan but pissed when they cost me money on a gm i thought i should have cashed. not much pisses me off more than missing on a cards gm, guess i got high standards.

**EXhoosier10** · 07-01-13, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by italianbandit

Nice call on Marlins yesterday.

I just bought Cubs +105, and Cubs FF -104 both for a unit. Price is off.

Jackson has pitched much better than his ERA (5.84) would indicate. He’s striking a fair number of batters and the walks aren’t terrible, plus he’s keeping the ball on the ground. It all adds up to a 3.78 FIP and 3.88 xFIP. The Mariners have one of the league’s worst offenses against right-handed pitchers with a high strikeout rate to boot. The wind is blowing in at Safeco Field, helping mute any fly balls he surrenders.
Bonderman was hit hard last week as the A's made lots of loud outs. I just don't buy his resurgence. Soriano and Castro are seeing and hitting the ball well. Meanwhile the Cubs bullpen has become more stable while the Mariners has become very volatile.

Bullpen still tried to blow it ofr you, but nice call

**italianbandit** · 07-01-13, 09:42 AM

Thanks EX, how is India?

**EXhoosier10** · 07-01-13, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by italianbandit

Thanks EX, how is India?

It took me a week to figure out that there is not much 'sightseeing' to do as is common on trips through America and Europe, but the culture/people/food are all making for a fantastic experience. Lack of a good internet connection here has squashed any hope of betting though. Would probably take an hour to collect what normally takes 5 minutes in the USofA.

Big plans for the 4th? I need to find some way to celebrate over here.

**italianbandit** · 07-01-13, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by EXhoosier10

It took me a week to figure out that there is not much 'sightseeing' to do as is common on trips through America and Europe, but the culture/people/food are all making for a fantastic experience. Lack of a good internet connection here has squashed any hope of betting though. Would probably take an hour to collect what normally takes 5 minutes in the USofA.

Big plans for the 4th? I need to find some way to celebrate over here.

Glad you are taking a break from betting, it would be tough to do there. India seems to be a very interesting place for a western brain to explore. My wife is 8 months pregnant so friends, grilled meats and beer in the backyard. California is going through a heat wave, should be close to 100 on the 4th here. I'll have a hotdog for ya. Safe travels.