Tsonga vs Federer

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 05:17 PM

50-50 to start. 1st set tells the story for the long haul. If Tsonga gets Federer first, Federer may go into shutdown mode and have trouble getting back into the match depending on how the set is lost. Tsonga definitely has less pressure on him and has shown the ability to rally from down at any point in matches. Serves should be huge. Both have big serves, but both can lose focus. Also watch strategy. Most try to work Federer's backhand which is the weaker ground stroke, but Tsonga's can also be error prone.

I don't think Federer has been pushed yet, so it will be interesting to see how he reacts if that happens. That has not been his strong suit in the last few years since his decline began.

Ericg320 · 09-08-11, 05:20 PM

What do you think about Fed -300?

PickApprentice · 09-08-11, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Ericg320

What do you think about Fed -300?

I think the value is definitely on Tsonga @ 3.2

Ericg320 · 09-08-11, 05:24 PM

Thanks

I don't bet tennis what is 3.2?

hawley · 09-08-11, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Ericg320

Thanks

I don't bet tennis what is 3.2?

+220

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 05:40 PM

I definitely do not see Federer at over -250 as a solid bet because you just don't know what version of Federer is going to show up. Honestly, this line should be more like -200 Fed at best IMO.

BernardMadoff · 09-08-11, 05:47 PM

Not 50-50, Fed will win, he's looked great, incredible shot making I havent seen from him this hardcourt season until now.

Ericg320 · 09-08-11, 05:51 PM

Thanks guys. So whats the play here?

tevari · 09-08-11, 05:55 PM

Careful. Fed has shown the tendency to not match up well with hard, flat hitters. (Berdych, Tsonga, Delpo, etc.) He SHOULD win, but the price leaves much to be desired

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by BernardMadoff

Not 50-50, Fed will win, he's looked great, incredible shot making I havent seen from him this hardcourt season until now.

Which match you basing that on? All or just Monaco? The Monaco match is not anything I think that is useful to base tonight's match on. Monaco froze in the spotlight, plain and simple and Fed did play well, but he didn't have to work hard to look good there. The Cilic match, he showed his inconsistencies again even in beating Cilic fairly routinely in 4 there were some moments where a better player i.e. Tsonga likely would have made Fed pay and Fed would have been playing from behind. Fed has not been tested for the most part whereas Tsonga has and passed with flying colors. We'll see how it goes. Sentimentally, I hope Federer wins as I'd like to see him make a run here. This match goes a long way in showing his actual chances to win it all or not IMO.

PickApprentice · 09-08-11, 06:01 PM

over 37.5 @ 1.7 is a good bet!

Good luck!

Tsonga · 09-08-11, 06:01 PM

I would like to see a 5 set Tsonga win. I would be ok with any outcome really. As long as it's an over.

PickApprentice · 09-08-11, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Tsonga

I would like to see a 5 set Tsonga win. I would be ok with any outcome really. As long as it's an over.

Lies man, you willn't want to lose, Mr Tsonga!

Ericg320 · 09-08-11, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by PickApprentice

over 37.5 @ 1.7 is a good bet!

Good luck!

Thanks

I took:

#4251 - Roger Federer/Jo Wilfried Tsonga o3½ (-180)

tevari · 09-08-11, 06:08 PM

that's over 3 sets, and that should most definitely hit

BernardMadoff · 09-08-11, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Which match you basing that on? All or just Monaco? The Monaco match is not anything I think that is useful to base tonight's match on. Monaco froze in the spotlight, plain and simple and Fed did play well, but he didn't have to work hard to look good there. The Cilic match, he showed his inconsistencies again even in beating Cilic fairly routinely in 4 there were some moments where a better player i.e. Tsonga likely would have made Fed pay and Fed would have been playing from behind. Fed has not been tested for the most part whereas Tsonga has and passed with flying colors. We'll see how it goes. Sentimentally, I hope Federer wins as I'd like to see him make a run here. This match goes a long way in showing his actual chances to win it all or not IMO.

I base it on pure shotmaking he wasnt even trying during the hardcourt season leading up to the Open. He's in monster mode.

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 07:49 PM

Disagree totally. Federer doesn't ever "not try" ... if you think otherwise, get your head checked my man. He's just at a point where his consistency and focus during a match isn't what it used to be. That's why you see things like what happened at Wimbledon. Seems like Federer can cruise and get a lead, but whereas he used to put his foot on the throat of an opponent - he seems to fall into the trap of relaxing and losing focus.

agharah1 · 09-08-11, 08:10 PM

I've got -230 on Tsonga to win at least one set. Frustrated because my bet has been locked in since Tuesday, lol.

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 08:45 PM

Tsonga painting lines right now. Federer looks like the error machine of frustration since returning from the suspension.

BernardMadoff · 09-08-11, 08:56 PM

Fed takes first set, got him at -4.5 spread and -1.5 sets.

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 08:57 PM

Weird set. Not very crisp for the most part.

kingsr · 09-08-11, 09:07 PM

Took Tsonga +400 when he was down a break in the 1st...Let's hope i get a hedge opportunity!

tevari · 09-08-11, 09:16 PM

tsonga looks like pure shit, he'll be off the court in 40 minutes if he doesn't pick it up, and fast

face · 09-08-11, 09:17 PM

tsonga looked good just the other day, now looks like toasted shit, fed looking smooth and easily beating him. fed could win it this year, his game looks great.

BernardMadoff · 09-08-11, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by kingsr

Took Tsonga +400 when he was down a break in the 1st...Let's hope i get a hedge opportunity!

Hope you have some deep pockets, Fed prob at -2000 now.

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 09:19 PM

Yeah Federer looks decent, but Tsonga definitely not playing very well. Really poor errors.

kingsr · 09-08-11, 09:19 PM

lol Tsonga is GOOOOOONE!

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 09:22 PM

We'll see how Federer plays up 2-0 this time ....

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 09:25 PM

Just a thought, but I think Tsonga is hurt still or low on energy or something. Federer trying to give it back. Ugly match so far.

EaglesPhan36 · 09-08-11, 09:38 PM

Well once again, the hype failing to live up to reality. Tsonga must have prepped with Donald Young today. Looks like he is just going to try to hit his way out of whatever funk he is in. Only plus for him is Federer really isn't playing an A level game. Boring match to this point. Don't know if anything is going to ignite Tsonga tonight, he looks like he doesn't want to be there.

UpsetSpecial09 · 09-08-11, 09:44 PM

Tsonga is an average player, bottom line!
The real match is tomorrow Fed vs Joker. That should be a great 5 set match