CONTEST: Barclay's ATP World Tour Finals

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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    CONTEST: Barclay's ATP World Tour Finals
    CONTEST RULES

    1. ENTRANTS MUST PLACE A WAGER ON EVERY MATCH.

    ANY ENTRANT WHO DOES NOT MAKE A SELECTION FOR A MATCH WILL BE GIVEN A 1.5 UNIT PENALTY. ANY PICK MADE AFTER THE LISTED MATCH STARTING TIME WILL ALSO BE PENALIZED THIS 1.5 UNITS.

    2. ALL WAGERS ARE "TO WIN" or "TO RISK" & MONEY LINES ONLY
    Example here is say it's Federer -300 vs. Roddick at +250. If you want to bet on Federer, you are risking 3 units to win 1. If you bet on Roddick, you are risking 1 unit to win 2.5.

    3. ONCE THE GROUPS ARE ANNOUNCED, ENTRANTS WILL PICK THEIR FOUR SEMIFINALISTS, TWO FINALISTS AND A CHAMPION.

    EACH CORRECT SEMIFINALIST = ONE UNIT BONUS
    PICKING ALL FOUR SEMIFINALISTS CORRECTLY = 6 UNIT BONUS
    PICKING BOTH FINALISTS = 8 UNIT BONUS
    PICKING THE CHAMPION = 12 UNIT BONUS

    4. PRIOR TO THE FIRST MATCH BEING PLAYED, EACH ENTRANT IS ALLOWED TO PICK ONE PLAYER FROM THE LIST OF EIGHT AS THEIR WILD CARD.

    What does this mean? It means you accrue bonus units based on your player's record. Each win they pick up as a FAVORITE nets you an additional 0.25 units. Each win they pick up as an UNDERDOG will net you an additional 0.50 units. Each LOSS your player picks up when listed as a favorite greater than -110 results in a LOSS OF 0.50 units.

    5. WINNER WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE PERSON WHO HAS ACCUMULATED THE MOST POSITIVE UNITS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE TOURNAMENT. IN EVENT OF A TIE, HERE IS THE TIE BREAK PROCEDURE:

    TIE BREAK #1: PERSON CORRECTLY PICKING THE HIGHEST COMBINATION OF SEMIFINALISTS + FINALISTS + CHAMPION IS AWARDED THE HIGHER FINISH.

    TIE BREAK #2: PERSON WITH MORE UNITS ACCUMULATED FROM THEIR WILDCARD PICK IS AWARDED THE HIGHER FINISH

    IF THERE IS STILL A TIE AFTER THESE TWO PROCEDURES, POINTS WILL BE SPLIT AMONG THE ENTRANTS TIED FOR A CERTAIN POSITION.

    6. ALL PICKS MADE DURING THIS CONTEST CANNOT BE MODIFIED AND/OR DELETED.

    IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE YOU MAKE A CHOICE - YOU ARE STUCK WITH IT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE MATCH HAS STARTED OR NOT. ANY PICKS THAT ARE MODIFIED AND/OR DELETED WILL NOT COUNT TOWARD YOUR TOTAL AND APPLICABLE PENALTIES WILL BE APPLIED.

    ALL PICKS FOR THE MATCHES MUST BE MADE IN THIS THREAD ONLY! ANY PICKS MADE ELSEWHERE WILL NOT COUNT TOWARD YOUR ENTRY AND ANY APPLICABLE PENALTIES WILL BE APPLIED.


    7. SBR MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED ONE ENTRY ONLY INTO THIS CONTEST.

    8. ALL GRADING WILL BE DONE BY EAGLESPHAN36. ANY DISPUTES ON MISTAKES IN GRADING SHOULD BE BROUGHT FORTH TO EP36 VIA PRIVATE MESSAGE AS TO NOT CLUTTER THE THREAD.

    9. ALL LINES FOR THIS CONTEST WILL BE POSTED DAILY BY EAGLESPHAN36 AND ANY LINES USED OTHERWISE WILL NOT BE COUNTED TOWARD AN ENTRANTS PICKS. APPLICABLE PENALTIES FOR USING NON-SANCTIONED LINES ARE THE SAME AS NOT MAKING A PICK FOR EACH MATCH OUTLINED IN RULE #1.

    All lines will come via Pinnacle Sports. I will post the lines & starting times for the following day's events as close to the same time each evening as possible to allow for some consistency in lines. I realize the starting times listed may not jive with the actual starting times for the matches, but for the purposes of this contest - ALL PICKS ON MATCHES MUST BE MADE PRIOR TO THE LISTED START TIME FOR A PARTICULAR MATCH.

    PLEASE CONSULT THE NEXT POST FOR INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU NEED TO DO NEXT TO ENTER THIS CONTEST.
  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #2
    If you are entering this contest, you must do the following. Keep in mind the first matches for this event start on Sunday, November 21st around 7:00am ET:

    1. DONATE 10 SBR POINTS AS AN ENTRY FEE BY CLICKING THE GOLD COIN IN THIS FIRST POST. THOSE POINTS WILL GO TO EP36. I WILL HOLD THEM UNTIL PRIZES ARE SET TO BE AWARDED. ENTRY FEE IS DUE BY THE START TIME FOR THE FIRST MATCH.

    2. SUBMIT VIA PRIVATE MESSAGE TO EAGLESPHAN36, THE FOLLOWING - ALSO DUE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST MATCH:

    * YOUR WILD CARD PLAYER
    * YOUR FOUR SEMIFINALISTS, TWO FINALISTS & CHAMPION

    Here are the Groups for the Barclay's ATP World Tour Finals:

    GROUP A: Nadal, Djokovic, Berdych, Roddick
    GROUP B: Federer, Soderling, Murray, Ferrer

    They play Round Robin group stages, consisting of three matches each. At that point, the two best records from each group advance to the Semifinals. #1 from Group A plays #2 from Group B. #1 from Group B plays #2 from Group A. So it is possible that two players from the same group can play in the final.

    Go here for more information on the rules for this tournament. It details tie breakers, etc. that you might need to know to help you make your selections:

    Live scores, draws, group standings, news, video, players and more from the tennis season finale in Turin, Italy, 13-20 November.

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    • EaglesPhan36
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 71662

      #3
      Quick Note. I will detail the prize layout as soon as I know something from SBR on potentially getting extra points to give out. Obviously, the more entrants, the more Points available the Entry Fee.

      I will post the first lines for the first matches when Pinnacle posts them.
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      • EaglesPhan36
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #4
        SBR has given 250 points to be added to the prize pool, so the total prize pool will depend on the number of entries, but here's a proposed payout scale:

        1st: 55%
        2nd: 30%
        3rd: 15%
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        • Tsonga
          SBR MVP
          • 10-12-09
          • 2349

          #5
          Sounds good...and a bit complicated... But should be fun.
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          • EaglesPhan36
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 71662

            #6
            It'll only be complicated for me grading it.
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            • Duff85
              SBR MVP
              • 06-15-10
              • 2920

              #7
              Looking forward to this. Pay up and get in it.
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              • dlweaver
                SBR MVP
                • 01-28-10
                • 3428

                #8
                What is the max units u can bet per match? Needs to be a limit
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                • Jrod124
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-31-09
                  • 5622

                  #9
                  Weaver pay your points back to people, don't worry about playing in this
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #10
                    Every pick is either risking a unit on dogs or risking "to win" one unit on favorites.
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                    • Duff85
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-15-10
                      • 2920

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                      Every pick is either risking a unit on dogs or risking "to win" one unit on favorites.
                      I would honestly be opposed to Weaver participating considering he is stiffing a whole heap of posters at the moment. Can we have him excluded?
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                      • EaglesPhan36
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-06-06
                        • 71662

                        #12
                        If he puts in his entry fee, I have no problems.
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                        • ha1ogen
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 06-16-10
                          • 528

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jrod124
                          Weaver pay your points back to people, don't worry about playing in this
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                          • Jrod124
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-31-09
                            • 5622

                            #14
                            Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                            If he puts in his entry fee, I have no problems.
                            If he wins then, I respectfully ask that you send his winnings to one of the many posters he is currently stiffing
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                            • noober
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-23-09
                              • 2012

                              #15
                              i am in. looking forward to it.
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                              • EaglesPhan36
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-06-06
                                • 71662

                                #16
                                REMEMBER, YOU MUST PAY YOUR ENTRY FEE BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR SELECTIONS

                                SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 21st

                                9:00am ET
                                Murray [-129]
                                Soderling [+119]

                                3:00pm ET
                                Federer [-750]
                                Ferrer [+629]
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                                • Jrod124
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-31-09
                                  • 5622

                                  #17
                                  Soderling +119
                                  Federer -750
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                                  • NdeJonge
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-20-09
                                    • 17

                                    #18
                                    Soderling +119
                                    Federer -750

                                    Where do we make our semifinalist, finalist, champion and wild card picks?
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                                    • Jrod124
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-31-09
                                      • 5622

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ndejonge
                                      soderling +119
                                      federer -750

                                      where do we make our semifinalist, finalist, champion and wild card picks?
                                      2. Submit via private message to eaglesphan36, the following - also due prior to the beginning of the first match:

                                      * your wild card player
                                      * your four semifinalists, two finalists & champion
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                                      • Buckylastard
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 07-01-10
                                        • 26

                                        #20
                                        Murray -129
                                        Federer -750
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                                        • Tsonga
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-12-09
                                          • 2349

                                          #21
                                          so we can wait until Sat. to put in the picks?
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                                          • noober
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-23-09
                                            • 2012

                                            #22
                                            My picks for day 1: Murray and Federer
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                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-06-06
                                              • 71662

                                              #23
                                              You can put in your picks 1 minute before the deadline if you choose. The SBR time stamp serves as the official stamp. So if you post at exactly 9:00am ET, it would count, but if it posts at 9:01 then you'd be dealt a penalty for not having picks in on time. Will have the Monday lines up in a little bit as well.
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                                              • dlweaver
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-28-10
                                                • 3428

                                                #24
                                                Even if the line moves does it stay at what you have posted?
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                                                • Goat Milk
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-24-10
                                                  • 25850

                                                  #25
                                                  sounds fun cant wait
                                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dlweaver
                                                    Even if the line moves does it stay at what you have posted?
                                                    YES. Whatever is posted is the only line that is used for the contest.
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                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                      • 71662

                                                      #27
                                                      MONDAY, NOVEMBER 22nd

                                                      9:00am ET
                                                      Djokovic [-345]
                                                      Berdych [+309]

                                                      3:00pm ET
                                                      Nadal [-256]
                                                      Roddick [+233]
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                                                      • Jrod124
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 10-31-09
                                                        • 5622

                                                        #28
                                                        berdych +309
                                                        nadal -256
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                                                        • Nard Dog
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 05-18-10
                                                          • 315

                                                          #29
                                                          Oops, accidentally gave 20 points instead of 10.

                                                          Sunday picks: Soderling, Federer
                                                          Last edited by Nard Dog; 11-20-10, 12:41 PM.
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 71662

                                                            #30
                                                            Reminder that the deadline to enter this is 9:00 am et sunday morning. Please read the rules in the first post in this thread for information on registering.

                                                            Once the deadline passes, I will post everyone's wild card, semifinalists, finalists and champions picks in this thread.
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                                                            • ha1ogen
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 06-16-10
                                                              • 528

                                                              #31
                                                              Sunday: Soderling, Federer
                                                              Monday: Djokovic, Roddick
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                                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-06-06
                                                                • 71662

                                                                #32
                                                                Murray -129
                                                                Federer -750
                                                                Djokovic -345
                                                                Roddick +233
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                                                                • beefcake
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                                  • 14029

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Soderling +109
                                                                  Federer -750
                                                                  Berdych +309
                                                                  Roddick +233
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                                                                  • Tsonga
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-12-09
                                                                    • 2349

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I've sent in the picks (semi's/finals/wildcard). Here are my picks for the weekend.

                                                                    Fed -750, Soderling +109, Djokovic -345, Nadal -256.
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                                                                    • yisman
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                                      • 75682

                                                                      #35

                                                                      SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 21st

                                                                      9:00am ET
                                                                      Murray [-129]


                                                                      I'll post my second pick later.
                                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                      [/quote]

                                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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