ATP/WTA/Challengers

[DavidGoliath5003]

Tsistpas barring any injuries will probably be up with the names of Djoker/Federer/Nadal one day. 10+ slams. I think hes the future, like fed was at his time

[Conqueror]

You’re right to a point.... the Big four are on borrowed time... nobody should have feared Federer for years now. Murray killed his body going 80-10 in 2016... nobody could touch him or Djokovic that year.

IF djoker holds on ill be fading him vs Swartzmann tomorrow. Djoker probably wont sleep much tonight probaly a 4 or 5am bedtime

I don't know if this is true (laugh before you read): I even heard Murray is now hiding in a cave. He doesn't want to be seen in public anymore. I also heard Federer and Nadal are planning to join him there.

If Nadal loses again to Tsitsipas tomorrow, he'll go into hiding.

For long, the god of tennis has been scouting for successors to the big 4. He (the god) has been trying out Andy Zverev, Nishikori, Dimitrov, and Shapovalov but is frustrated with them. Hence, Tsitsipas was anointed to terrorize the big 4. Watch out for him. It won't be long before he wins a grandslam. After he wins his first slam, then the goddess of tennis might grant a slam to Sakkari. Don't forget "Sakkari" means "future champion". See what she did earlier to Mladenovic?

[DavidGoliath5003]

I don't know if this is true (laugh before you read): I even heard Murray is now hiding in a cave. He doesn't want to be seen in public anymore. I also heard Federer and Nadal are planning to join him there.

If Nadal loses again to Tsitsipas tomorrow, he'll go into hiding.

For long, the god of tennis has been scouting for successors to the big 4. He (the god) has been trying out Andy Zverev, Nishikori, Dimitrov, and Shapovalov but is frustrated with them. Hence, Tsitsipas was anointed to terrorize the big 4. Watch out for him. It won't be long before he wins a grandslam. After he wins his first slam, then the goddess of tennis might grant a slam to Sakkari. Don't forget "Sakkari" means "future champion". See what she did earlier to Mladenovic?

Lol i saw all of that. Tsistpas will be the future champ for years... Zverev will go into hiding and blow an amazing potential.

Sakkari will continue to dominate!

[Conqueror]

Lol i saw all of that. Tsistpas will be the future champ for years... Zverev will go into hiding and blow an amazing potential.

Sakkari will continue to dominate!

Believe me, I really had high hopes for Andy Zverev. I don't know what's going on with him.
If you'd permit me, I'll try to find out the meaning of "Zverev". If you'll also permit me, I'll come back and share it with you.

[Jeff_Black]

I alluded earlier to the fact that the era of fear is gone. No one fears the big 4 anymore. Federer realized that and ran back home so as to avoid being embarrassed by Tsitsipas. You also realize Andy Murray has since gone into hiding. He hasn't been seen in a long time.

Part of that is a mix of the age gap between them and the big three as well as not having the scars of repeated defeats in the locker room like the other second tier players below them have had.

I think it’s a mix of everything, the confidence of the newer generation, their talents, but an underrated part that comes from the above is the unknown of not having played them before much. So combine that with talent and the age of these guys and you’re bound to get some upsets which is okay.

At the end of the day we ar still seeing the names of Djokovic and Nadal and Federer on these slam trophies with a few other veterans in between so until that changes significantly...

[Jeff_Black]

You’re right to a point.... the Big four are on borrowed time... nobody should have feared Federer for years now. Murray killed his body going 80-10 in 2016... nobody could touch him or Djokovic that year.

IF djoker holds on ill be fading him vs Swartzmann tomorrow. Djoker probably wont sleep much tonight probaly a 4 or 5am bedtime

Murray played in a whole heap of smaller tournaments to try and grab the number one ranking which worked out and was probably the last thing he could hope for with Federer and Nadal having already checked out and Djokovic having full points to defend from the previous year after his freakishly good 2015.

Once he won the French and all four in a row his motivation probably dipped a bit (Becker hinted as such) so it was well timed for Murray.

[DavidGoliath5003]

Murray played in a whole heap of smaller tournaments to try and grab the number one ranking which worked out and was probably the last thing he could hope for with Federer and Nadal having already checked out and Djokovic having full points to defend from the previous year after his freakishly good 2015.

Once he won the French and all four in a row his motivation probably dipped a bit (Becker hinted as such) so it was well timed for Murray.

Well, i guess my point was playing too much can literally kill your career... not sure why he played 90 matches i guess if it was for the #1 spot then i sorta under stand The 2013 US open where murray beat Djokovic was one of my favorite memories

[DavidGoliath5003]

Challenger Samarkand/ ATP Geneva Qual:

Martin ML @1.79 *8 x 2 units
Huesler ML @6.80 *6 x .5 units

[flabrah5]

Are we rolling with Kiki? Full days rest. Been on a tear. One of my favorites to back. -4 games is -115. They are 2-2 H2H all on hard court and decided in 2 sets. Straights could be a smaller play for Bertens.

[DavidGoliath5003]

Challenger Hellibron:

Degreef 1st set @1.88 *8 x 2 units

[DavidGoliath5003]

Are we rolling with Kiki? Full days rest. Been on a tear. One of my favorites to back. -4 games is -115. They are 2-2 H2H all on hard court and decided in 2 sets. Straights could be a smaller play for Bertens.

Mental fatigue i suppose, like Tsistpas

[DavidGoliath5003]

WTA Rome:

Sakkari 1st set @2.26 *8 x 2 units

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Rome:

Swartzmann Over 8 Games @2.07 *9 x 2 units

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Rome:

Swartzmann ML @7.04 *8 x .5 units

[Conqueror]

ATP Rome:

Swartzmann ML @7.04 *8 x .5 units

Wish you luck.

[DavidGoliath5003]

Wish you luck.

Thanks need 1 more game for over 8

[DavidGoliath5003]

Lets go swartzmann!

[Conqueror]

Thanks need 1 more game for over 8

Chacin.

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Rome:

Kubot/Melo Doubles ML @2.33 *8 x 1 unit

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Geneva/Leon Qual:

T. Paul ML @2.14 *8 x 2 units
Barrere ML @2.60 *7 x 1 unit

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Geneva:

Nishioka/Gulbis Over 21.5 Games won @1.86 *8 x 1.5 units

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Geneva:

Dellien ML @2.00 *8 x 1.5 units
Sonego + Jarry @1.79 *9 x 1.5 units

[Conqueror]

I wanted to play Dellien as well but I don't know why the line is moving against him.

[DavidGoliath5003]

I wanted to play Dellien as well but I don't know why the line is moving against him.

Cuz people are dumb lol. Seppi has been horrendus

[Conqueror]

Cuz people are dumb lol. Seppi has been horrendus

Many thanks.
Now, I'll tail you on that.

[DavidGoliath5003]

Many thanks.
Now, I'll tail you on that.

Haha, in all seriousness its dellien or pass. Seppi will pick it up come grass season

[Gaze73]

Dellien lookin good! If he wins in straights then the market was dumb indeed, why would they bet on a guy that lost 8 in a row?

[Gaze73]

And he does it! I went with 5 units on him, horrible Seppi fails again! Although the 3rd set looked dire indeed.

[Conqueror]

Congrats on Dellien!

[DavidGoliath5003]

And he does it! I went with 5 units on him, horrible Seppi fails again! Although the 3rd set looked dire indeed.

Lol yeah seppi picked it up a bit. We were a bit lucky Seppi has forgotten how to win. The faster court does benefit Dellien

[Gaze73]

Dude what a dog day!

[Conqueror]

Gaze73,

Thanks for that post.

[Conqueror]

I had a livebet on one of the games in the WTA qualifiers in Nurnberg, Germany, which got suspended due to rain. From the weather forecast on Google, it looks like it'll rain there till next Monday.

[jtoler]

I had a livebet on one of the games in the WTA qualifiers in Nurnberg, Germany, which got suspended due to rain. From the weather forecast on Google, it looks like it'll rain there till next Monday.

I just checked forecast for tomorrow myself and came here to let guys know only checked for tomorrow though not sure Ive ever seen a cancelled tourney or chicks leaving because they choose to play in another tourney. I like this because it will be strategy for me the seeded chicks will be looking to get out of there I hit up pacquet strong live early today after I saw kenin was out there to just work on a few shots whenever she wanted to she hit a winner easily otherwise she was trying not to win that was strasbourg more rain coming there too

[DavidGoliath5003]

ATP Geneva:

Tipserevic ML @2.80 *9 x 1.5 units

im not sure why Tipserevic is @2.80, he should be the favorite here.