serena will never win a gold medal on this surface

**maletaja** · 08-09-16, 04:40 AM

You are right! My bets against Serena +6.5 games worked quite well
Its slow surface and windy also
Big hitters get punished
Muguruza is good, also Kuznetsova. I would keep an eye guys who have been good at slow clay
Lets see which lines market offers for serena

**moki** · 08-09-16, 04:57 AM

yeah man i took kuznetsova today over konta(i think that konta is overated)
and also errani that this surface is perfect for her.
also think that keys may lose to suarez-navarro so i recomended to avoid this game.

**maletaja** · 08-09-16, 05:14 AM

Yes, Errani and Navarro could be good at this surface

**Lightning** · 08-09-16, 05:21 AM

Previous games it worked well, but I'm not sure about this one. Would rather lay the games now the tournament has advanced a bit. I think Serena will demolish Svitolina tonight.

**moki** · 08-09-16, 05:42 AM

in my country i dont have the pick svitolina + games so i cant take it but i think svitolina can take a set from serena or at least do some damage and +5.5 looks very good.
my main picks are errani and kuznesova

**ufcfan2016** · 08-09-16, 08:05 AM

TAKE SERENA she will win..still in her prime and unbeatable

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 08-09-16, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by ufcfan2016

TAKE SERENA she will win..still in her prime and unbeatable

what happened to your joshknows handle?

**moki** · 08-09-16, 08:29 AM

unbeatable? she got smashed by kerber and muguruza this year lol

**franklissa** · 08-09-16, 08:31 AM

Svitolina can beat Williams on this surface if the mental side of her game shows up. Terrible surface for Serena, great surface for Svitolina. On top of that, should be more then a 5-1 underdog. Im betting big on her today. Serena clearly isnt on form. Could have easily lost to Cornet yesterday and Svitolina much better then Cornet

**moki** · 08-09-16, 08:38 AM

i think serena will win at the end. svitolina is struggling under pressure..
the + games looks good

**maletaja** · 08-09-16, 09:01 AM

I like players like Vinci,Peng,Doi,Navarro,Kuznetsova to destroy hitters game but Svitolina ...i dont like her game to take some +4.5 game or so. Also market adjust and dont give anymore good lines

**moki** · 08-09-16, 06:13 PM

bye bye serena. i said it will be against muguruza but it just came earlier.
muguruza also out very big surprise.
now svitolina is my favorite to go to the final. i saw kvitova and she is so inconsistent all year and also here againt the lozer wazniacki she could lose and also against makarova could lose after lead first set. her first serv just dont get in and svitolina is like a little deamon on this surface.
keber vs keys will be the semis and i think kerber will win..this surface is not good to keys..
gl all

**pabonaparte** · 08-09-16, 06:14 PM

Brilliant. Points sent to thank you.

**pabonaparte** · 08-09-16, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by maletaja

I like players like Vinci,Peng,Doi,Navarro,Kuznetsova to destroy hitters game but Svitolina ...i dont like her game to take some +4.5 game or so. Also market adjust and dont give anymore good lines

+5.5 could be had at almost even money and I almost backed her to advance at 6-1

**Lightning** · 08-09-16, 09:49 PM

Well, I certainly got that wrong haha

**gaebiskon** · 08-10-16, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by moki

bye bye serena. i said it will be against muguruza but it just came earlier.
muguruza also out very big surprise.
now svitolina is my favorite to go to the final. i saw kvitova and she is so inconsistent all year and also here againt the lozer wazniacki she could lose and also against makarova could lose after lead first set. her first serv just dont get in and svitolina is like a little deamon on this surface.
keber vs keys will be the semis and i think kerber will win..this surface is not good to keys..
gl all

svitolina doesnt play too good against power hitters, no?

**moki** · 08-10-16, 04:37 AM

yes and petra won the last 2 meetings but this surface is very slow and i think this is a 50/50 match and i will take the highers odds. and petra also loses this year to makarova gavrilova konta and rogers and i think svitolina is a better player than these.
the best play there in my opinion is over games.
what is amazing is that svitolina stuggles to beat watson and petkovic in three sets, but then win comfortable victory over serena in straight and it only took 1:13..
i think petra and svitolina are not enough stable to win in straigth or easy win. so i will take over games and will decide later if to take svitolina,,

**moki** · 08-10-16, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by moki
bye bye serena. i said it will be against muguruza but it just came earlier.
muguruza also out very big surprise.
now svitolina is my favorite to go to the final. i saw kvitova and she is so inconsistent all year and also here againt the lozer wazniacki she could lose and also against makarova could lose after lead first set. her first serv just dont get in and svitolina is like a little deamon on this surface.
keber vs keys will be the semis and i think kerber will win..this surface is not good to keys..
gl all

svitolina doesnt play too good against power hitters, no?

serena is a powrt hitter isnt she?

**jtoler** · 08-11-16, 01:24 AM

Never have been a fan of Svit, she's pretty much straight up and down no special effects about her game really. Depends on how Kvit is playing, havent seen her in Olympics, Kvit loses focus quite a bit, many matches go 3 sets. If she's hitting good then slow surface wont matter because she can hit deep and at crazy angles if she's in form.

**moki** · 08-11-16, 12:23 PM

lol i think svitolina go to club to celebrate and drink to much after winning serena
she play like she got hangover