Wawrinka vs Murray

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  • Scottish
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-21-10
    • 588

    #1
    Wawrinka vs Murray
    I really like Wawrinka here, Murray has been pretty good this clay court season with wins over Nadal and Djokovic but i feel like the courts at Roland Garros and they way they are playing with the overcast weather don't really suit him and he's never really got going at his top level during this tournament.

    I just feel like in the slow conditions Wawrinka is going to be able to hit through Murray who has pretty much been rescued by his improved serve in several matches because his game wasn't up to his normal level, Wawrinka also leads the clay h2h but he just plays better and is more comfortable on the courts at Roland Garros, i actually think this year Murray has played quite well and and i can see him playing on the final Sunday at Wimbledon but i don't like him on these courts and in this matchup at all, take Stan the Man.

    Wawrinka win as an underdog is big time value here, i see him as a 70% favorite.

    3-1 Wawrinka i also like for a smaller stake.

    Stats

    H2H 8-7 Murray
    Wawrinka won last 3 meetings
    2-2 in Grand Slam meetings
    3-0 Wawrinka on Clay
  • Snowball
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 11-15-09
    • 30056

    #2
    I see 2-0, not 3-0
    btw you know Murray has only recently like last 2-3 years
    even bothered to train on clay. His stats show a marked improvement
    on clay in recent years.
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    • Scottish
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-21-10
      • 588

      #3
      Originally posted by Snowball
      I see 2-0, not 3-0
      btw you know Murray has only recently like last 2-3 years
      even bothered to train on clay. His stats show a marked improvement
      on clay in recent years.
      http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1444945
      The first ever match they played was a Davis Cup match on Clay in Switzerland.

      Not true either about Murray he trained on clay he just had a back problem which caused some problems on clay but he had surgery on it and is fine now.

      He actually started off playing on clay he was trained at an academy in Barcelona when he was a teenager just grew to hate it cause it hurt his back.
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      • gaebiskon
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-10-12
        • 869

        #4
        mugray is 1.8 at pinnacle now
        you stated you see wowrinka as 70% favorite, how much are you betting him for?
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        • maletaja
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-09-12
          • 319

          #5
          Wawrinka destrys him. The lines are sick. Slow court has Stan advanage. Yes Murray isnt bad, but Stan has smth 5 gear to beat Murray or Djokovic
          Predict 3-0 or 3-1

          Betting BIG on Stan and consider some -games
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          • JohnHanson
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-26-14
            • 113

            #6
            Murray is overrated. Played Rom and Madrid good (won vs. handicapped Djoker), but nothing more. Had much problems vs. two unkowns in the first rounds, after that the draw luck with the two big men. If Gasquet would won the tie break, who knows.. Wawrinka is a other opponet as Gasquet. Stan is the man, stanimal, ironstan. He will destory Murray 3-1 and will penetrate Djoker again in the final. Stan is the biggest grand slam player. Can play shit in ATPs but in grand slam he is always like rabies.

            Djoker will have mental problems again in the final and the court will pushing Stan again to victory, game like 2015 we will see. Stan the man will win the FO 2016 again.

            GO IRONSTAN!!

            Do it again Stan!
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            • delpiero7
              SBR Sharp
              • 11-24-10
              • 362

              #7
              Wawrinka at his best > Murray at his best on clay.

              Struggling to understand this line. Wawrinka had a terrible warm up to the French Open, but he seems to raise his game for the slams.

              It's not as though Murray has been setting the world alight in this tournament either. Barely made it past two players outside the top 100 in week 1.

              Gotta take the defending champion as a dog here.

              Also chucking Stan into a parlay with Thiem to win a set vs Djokovic, total odds +372
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              • Chaz22
                SBR MVP
                • 09-30-10
                • 1152

                #8
                I agree. Wawa should take care of business here as he is simply stronger and can move on court well enough to hold off Murray's defensive scrambles.
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                • FoxMulder
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-02-13
                  • 1139

                  #9
                  If Wawrinka brings his A-game on court as he did in the first 2 sets vs Ramos, Murray will lose.

                  The thing is you cannot trust Wawrinka to play his A-game. He's unpredictable. Line seems also very fishy, "defending champion as underdog?"

                  better to watch a few service games before laying money on either side.
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                  • Scottish
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 12-21-10
                    • 588

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FoxMulder
                    If Wawrinka brings his A-game on court as he did in the first 2 sets vs Ramos, Murray will lose.

                    The thing is you cannot trust Wawrinka to play his A-game. He's unpredictable. Line seems also very fishy, "defending champion as underdog?"

                    better to watch a few service games before laying money on either side.
                    Well it's just cause Murray is a better overall player but he just isn't the better player on these courts.
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                    • FoxMulder
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-02-13
                      • 1139

                      #11
                      While I totally disagree that Murray is a better overall player (it'd be more accurate to say he's more consistent than Wawrinka) , the reason seems to be a lot of people betting on H2H and ranking position rather than looking at anything else. Bless those fools, that's what has made us cappers money throughout the whole tournament.
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                      • gaebiskon
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-10-12
                        • 869

                        #12
                        mugray vs wowraink is fun as hell
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