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  • beefcake
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-26-09
    • 14029

    #1
    Court 1 at Roland Garros
    Also known as the bullring.I wonder if its profitable to bet all overs on this court with every match played both ATP and WTA.My reasoning is that there is very little space to chase balls here.Just curious on seeing how this would play out.Four matches tommorrow.Lets see how this goes..
  • fitguy67
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-13-11
    • 5082

    #2
    love the irrepressible effort to turn interesting observations into bet-worthy angles

    i'm on (with hi-interest/small-stakes) whatever experiment you devise

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    • beefcake
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-26-09
      • 14029

      #3
      Kyrios cecchianato over 30
      Isner milkman over 38
      Kuzzy schvedova over 19.5
      Pliskova.Rodgers over 19.5
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      • rake922
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-23-07
        • 11692

        #4
        Originally posted by beefcake
        Kyrios cecchianato over 30
        Isner milkman over 38
        Kuzzy schvedova over 19.5
        Pliskova.Rodgers over 19.5
        Kyrgios match then
        Kuznetsova match then
        Pliskova vs Rogers then
        Isner match
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        • Don West
          SBR High Roller
          • 05-18-16
          • 105

          #5
          Kyrgios will be on and off the court like a cold shower. I don't think it's sunk in with most that he is a top 10 player right now, arguably top 5.
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          • Lightning
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 05-15-16
            • 647

            #6
            Nice call on the first one bud!
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            • beefcake
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-26-09
              • 14029

              #7
              Kuzzy match going to cash too when it resumes.With the weather today the other two matches may be moved to other courts..Will see
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              • beefcake
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-26-09
                • 14029

                #8
                Dammit rain..
                Cancel Isner match as its been moved and rogers match..moved too

                2-0 so far..Kuzzy will be winner

                Adding Chardy/mayer over 40
                Benneateau Pouille over 33
                Tsurenko Garcia over 20
                Svitolina Cirstea over 21
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                • PharaohUB
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-23-07
                  • 4865

                  #9
                  what is the reasoning that the size of the court is related to going over? not trying to be whatever but wondering if there is any thougth behind this, before i put money on it. thanks.
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                  • beefcake
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-26-09
                    • 14029

                    #10
                    Sure man. My theory is that the crowd is right on top of the players with very little room to return balls.I would think it would tend to lead to more rallies which on clay anyway there is more.Coupled with the slow courts at RG anyway kind of cuts down the percentage of players to run away with matches on this court. Over the course of many matches compared to other courts one might gain an advantage on totals. Kind of like the green monster at Fenway or say the wind blowing out stiffly at Wrigley.
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                    • trytrytry
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-13-06
                      • 23649

                      #11
                      this is one of the strangest but very fresh new angles Ive ever heard gambling wise.

                      hats off to the concept.
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                      • Don West
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 05-18-16
                        • 105

                        #12
                        There's nothing to see here. Cecchinato has a killer one handed shot that played well today. I've seen the guy in person and he's capable of going far at RG in the right draw, not his year. Every side court has less room (some have far less) at these tournaments. I'd be willing to bet that there are side courts at RG with less room on the sides and the baseline than the bullring. Whole facility is a big relic.

                        While I don't buy this angle for a second, I do think that some courts have such a unique character where it drastically effects one players performance. Depends on the court and depends on the player. This kind of thing, like the weather thing, are not efficient ways of handicapping these matches.
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                        • beefcake
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-26-09
                          • 14029

                          #13
                          4-1..Counting pouille as a winner..

                          Svitloina and cirstea moverd..so cancel

                          Tommorrow..(hopefully no delays and all bullring matches go!!)

                          1.Pospisil birdshit over 30.5
                          2.Williams kontaevit over 19
                          3.knapp aza brat..over 16.5
                          4.Goffin Barrere over 26
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                          • beefcake
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-26-09
                            • 14029

                            #14
                            Originally posted by trytrytry
                            this is one of the strangest but very fresh new angles Ive ever heard gambling wise.

                            hats off to the concept.
                            Thanks!!!
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                            • beefcake
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-26-09
                              • 14029

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Don West
                              There's nothing to see here. Cecchinato has a killer one handed shot that played well today. I've seen the guy in person and he's capable of going far at RG in the right draw, not his year. Every side court has less room (some have far less) at these tournaments. I'd be willing to bet that there are side courts at RG with less room on the sides and the baseline than the bullring. Whole facility is a big relic.

                              While I don't buy this angle for a second, I do think that some courts have such a unique character where it drastically effects one players performance. Depends on the court and depends on the player. This kind of thing, like the weather thing, are not efficient ways of handicapping these matches.
                              Valid points..Lets see how it goes!!
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                              • adila1401
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-16-11
                                • 2014

                                #16
                                Nice calls beef..Best of luck! Looking forward to some your insight on any dogs!
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                                • beefcake
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 14029

                                  #17
                                  5-2 and a push..Or might as well call it a winner.Aza retired but it was already over..So 6-2..goffin match got moved

                                  Wednesday..simon pella over 37.5
                                  Nishi kuznetsov over 32
                                  Golubic safarova over 20
                                  Cepede royog Stephens over 19.5
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                                  • frugalgambler
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-30-13
                                    • 3418

                                    #18
                                    I'm curious what is the overall o/u at this RG so far. It seems like the conditions are helping the overs, well does not help me , but I am seeing a lot of overs on the board.

                                    But regardless, nice thread.
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                                    • BlakeMile01
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-04-15
                                      • 166

                                      #19
                                      when you speak of "court 1" are you speaking of Center Court or the actual Court One? which I classify as either a stadium court or a grounds court based upon attendance

                                      set specifics & I'll look it up
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                                      • BlakeMile01
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-04-15
                                        • 166

                                        #20
                                        I filter buy Center Courts, Stadium Court and all grounds Courts
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                                        • BlakeMile01
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-04-15
                                          • 166

                                          #21
                                          and do you want it built argued just against Roland Garros or all Clay? maybe all red clay? eliminating USA green clay) should it include Indoor Clay? (the Germany event) do you want this filtered by grain density? ETC
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                                          • BlakeMile01
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-04-15
                                            • 166

                                            #22
                                            since elevations are different from Germany to Paris (Paris is lower) I can also back filter against that if you want
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                                            • beefcake
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-26-09
                                              • 14029

                                              #23
                                              Just court 1.The bullring.Only at RG.
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                                              • beefcake
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-26-09
                                                • 14029

                                                #24
                                                8-4 so far

                                                Thur..
                                                Nara Ivanavic over 19
                                                Razzano over 20
                                                Mathieu over 33.5
                                                Ferrero over 35
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                                                • BlakeMile01
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-04-15
                                                  • 166

                                                  #25
                                                  thats an interesting angle beefcake, I'll build a formula for that in my work, for all events
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                                                  • beefcake
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                    • 14029

                                                    #26
                                                    One push..one loss two wins

                                                    10-5😁
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                                                    • beefcake
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                      • 14029

                                                      #27
                                                      Friday...
                                                      Raonic..Martin over 28.5
                                                      Nishi ...Nando over 34
                                                      Pironkova..Stevens..over 20.5
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                                                      • pabonaparte
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-21-16
                                                        • 3566

                                                        #28
                                                        Interesting! I will be rooting for a tie break in this early match for you!
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                                                        • SteveKerrsJunk
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-25-13
                                                          • 2706

                                                          #29
                                                          Lol, I fukkin love this. Im on board.
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                                                          • beefcake
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-26-09
                                                            • 14029

                                                            #30
                                                            Early winner!!..Lets hit the three teamer!!
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                                                            • beefcake
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-26-09
                                                              • 14029

                                                              #31
                                                              Another angle to this is not just the close court and lack of space for rallies.Of course you could argue that less space for rallies would cause unders as points would be quicker.But the crowd is right on top of the players but smaller than chatrier or lenglen.So the adrenaline is more for the players here with raucous crowds.Players have even said they like the more intimate setting than the other two mentioned above as they are more intimadating.Of course throw in a crowd favorite or a frenchman and it gets even more amped.Also I think betting tiebreak in match would be a possibly solid play over time with the above mentioned intangibles.
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                                                              • SteveKerrsJunk
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-25-13
                                                                • 2706

                                                                #32
                                                                just dropped 50 on it, lets go 3 sets!
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                                                                • beefcake
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                                  • 14029

                                                                  #33
                                                                  12-6..Four games on Sat
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                                                                  • beefcake
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                                    • 14029

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Ferrer Lopez over 34.5
                                                                    Cuevas birdshit over 39.5
                                                                    Bergen's kasatkina over 21
                                                                    Svitolina Ivanovich over 21
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                                                                    • pabonaparte
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-21-16
                                                                      • 3566

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Ana come on you pretty face
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