Same script as every year. Lotsa success for Novak in warm-up clay events, lotsa physical and mental energy spent in Madrid and Rome. Unless he gets an easy draw at RG, somebody like Murray or Nadal will defeat him in yet another five-setter. Seriously, how long will it take him to understand this pattern ?
Djokovic has just lost RG this year
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frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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horja1SBR Hall of Famer- 01-13-11
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#2Yeah, because he lost RG to Murray/Nadal last time ...Originally posted by frugalgamblerSame script as every year. Lotsa success for Novak in warm-up clay events, lotsa physical and mental energy spent in Madrid and Rome. Unless he gets an easy draw at RG, somebody like Murray or Nadal will defeat him in yet another five-setter. Seriously, how long will it take him to understand this pattern ?
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kenzSBR MVP
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#3Damn I had Nishi ML @7.10
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frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#4Murray stretched him to a five-setter in the semis, he lost the final to Wawrinka. This year, somebody like Nishi or Nadal or even one of the young guns stretches him in the QF/SF, and then he loses the final to Murray. And then there is still Wawrinka.Originally posted by horja1Yeah, because he lost RG to Murray/Nadal last time ...
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frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#5Me too, and a little parlay on Keys+Nishi ML, but I hedged out after the 1st set. I am just superpissed at Djoker and his team. I mean, are they complete f.cktards ?Originally posted by kenzDamn I had Nishi ML @7.10
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frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#6Yes, really Murray. Where have you been old-timer, living on some desert island ? Have you missed the rise of Murray on clay ?Originally posted by horja1Yeah, because he lost RG to Murray/Nadal last time ...
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kenzSBR MVP
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#7Maybe he wants to be the first tennis player to win $100M in prize money ASAP. If he beats Murray tomorrow,he will be.
If you ask me it is very dumb to go deep here when RG is this close.Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
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#8Ithink I will go 2 units on Nole -3 tomorrow. Harder for Murray to compete than Madrid where the conditions were faster.
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frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#9I'll probably lay off. Djoker looked weird the whole week: it was like he did not really to try too hard but then he just could not resist the temptation to win. I understand his desire not to lose to Nadal, but that tight match still gave Rafa a lot of confidence. Then today vs Nishi was just a dumb, dumb match. he should've faked an injury before QF vs Nadal.Originally posted by kenzIthink I will go 2 units on Nole -3 tomorrow. Harder for Murray to compete than Madrid where the conditions were faster.
What is your opninon?
As for tomorrow, I think Murray might actually win, or at take least one set, even if Djoker tries hard tomorrow, as he probably will. Who cares about that bogus 100 mil record anyways ? Has he even heard of inflation ?Comment -
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#10Also, I think Murray of this and last year has a better chance against Novak in slower conditions. So Rome (and RG) is actually better suited for him than Madrid.Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
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#11In Madrid he won a lot of free points by serve. He probably wont win them hereOriginally posted by frugalgamblerAlso, I think Murray of this and last year has a better chance against Novak in slower conditions. So Rome (and RG) is actually better suited for him than Madrid.Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
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#12And Nole could not cover any game this week while Andy covered every game this week.
I feel it will be reverse tomorrow. But I am not sure which side is "square"Comment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#13Perhaps you are right. I actually hope you are right and Novak gets an easy 6-3 6-2 win tomorrow. But I think he won't.Originally posted by kenzIn Madrid he won a lot of free points by serve. He probably wont win them hereComment -
Jeff_BlackSBR MVP
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#14Not a big fan of it either but had he not had such an early exit in Monte Carlo he would not have played in Madrid plus winning it twice and adding to the tally is also probably cool for him.
I don't think he has looked bad coming out of the block in RG in previous years so it'll be interesting to see how different this year is.
If anything it's RGs pathetic scheduling in general and towards him forcing late SF matches and putting him on second like last year playing his SF in 2 days as well as the 2011 farce which was playing his round 3 or 4 match against del Potro over 2 days and then not playing a QF (not anyone's fault) before a second on court showdown with Federer battling the sunset to force another set and another day.
And don't get me started on 2012.
Anywhoo he has won Wimbledon without a lead up tournament and he has won in Australia with a few matches under his belt so I am surprised at the amount of matches played on clay but when you look at it it isn't as many compare to others *shrug*Comment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#15He actually looked pretty awesome early on @RG over the last 2-3 years. My point is that hours spent on clay and more importantly mental effort saving SPs vs the likes of Nadal and Nishi adds up. So by the time he gets to real important matches in quarters/semis/finals, his tank is half-empty and he just cannot find the magic needed to pull off a tough best-of-five match on clay. And you cannot really blame the scheduling b/c that what makes RG what it is. Deal with it or live without it.Originally posted by Jeff_BlackNot a big fan of it either but had he not had such an early exit in Monte Carlo he would not have played in Madrid plus winning it twice and adding to the tally is also probably cool for him.
I don't think he has looked bad coming out of the block in RG in previous years so it'll be interesting to see how different this year is.Comment -
HangoverblackSBR MVP
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#16Isn't Keys the easier play to pound tomorrow?
+340 against El Sereno?
Books hoping you tie Serena into every Sunday parlayComment -
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#17meh. keys is garbage. sorry just don't see itOriginally posted by HangoverblackIsn't Keys the easier play to pound tomorrow?
+340 against El Sereno?
Books hoping you tie Serena into every Sunday parlayComment -
Jeff_BlackSBR MVP
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#18RG can absolutely do more about it but that's a discussion for another day. It's why they are behind the other three slams and why it looks like an ATP 250 event out there...Originally posted by frugalgamblerAnd you cannot really blame the scheduling b/c that what makes RG what it is. Deal with it or live without it.Comment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#19I strongly dislike England so Wimby is automatically no good for me, the Aus Open is a weird event in a weird country, the US Open is an event for wimps with its decider tie-break. The RG is really the best slam. Plus, I like France, spent the best years of my life there. So no contest for me.Originally posted by Jeff_BlackRG can absolutely do more about it but that's a discussion for another day. It's why they are behind the other three slams and why it looks like an ATP 250 event out there...Comment -
SteamrollerSBR MVP
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#20It's not like RG starts tomorrow, he's got one week and he will be ready.Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
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#21Def with Frugal here
With a 1 week Off, he will have to play 17 games in 35 days to win RG, last seven on 5-set format so he will have to play at least 3 sets each. And this is slow clay, you must play very physical
Thats a killer no matter how you look at itComment -
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#22It's not like that week off helped him before.Originally posted by SteamrollerIt's not like RG starts tomorrow, he's got one week and he will be ready.Comment -
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#23He was runner up last two years. Imo he did pretty well.Originally posted by frugalgamblerIt's not like that week off helped him before.Comment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#24Is this thread titled "Djoker has just lost his runner-up spot at RG this year" ?Comment -
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#25Originally posted by horja1Yeah, because he lost RG to Murray/Nadal last time ...
Really, Murray?
Djokovic vs Murray went 5 sets in the SF over 2 days last year at RG, that's why he was so tired for the final.Comment -
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#26nadal
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#27If Djokovic will lose @RG it will not be against Nadal/Murray/FedererComment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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#28Certainly with about not losing to Federer.
Is he even going to pretend to try this year anyways ? As for the other two, each can beat Novak with a favorable draw.
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#29i actually think losing to murray was a good thing today. when stakes are at their highest(majors) Novak usually comes through
lets put it this way, if Novak plays Murray in the final, obviously taking into account other factors but i would most likely be all over Novak! ...and I just won huge on Murray today.
in a best of 5 major, its very hard to put away Joker!Comment -
SteamrollerSBR MVP
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#30Djoker lost to Murray but that was 10th game in twelve days. Late night match against sushi boy and then Murray, it's not easy.Comment
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