ATP Paris Discussion

**matt1216** · 10-29-14, 01:06 AM

Take Pouille. He has the confidence with him right now. He beat Johnson and Nieminen in straight sets which is no easy feat. Fognini, nobody knows. He can win this match if he cares, but I think he's in Holliday mode. Being in France, you will atleast get a effort no matter what from Pouille.

**matt1216** · 10-29-14, 01:08 AM

Also Melzer looked Motivated vs Garcia Lopez. Remember Melzer is ranked 120 ish right now. He needs points for the Aussie open. Top 100 + wildcards get a crack at it. +1.5 sets @2.55 should be there for the taking

**Goat Milk** · 10-29-14, 01:17 AM

Wawrinka -3 -115 $115 to win $100

I see this as a no brainer. Wawrinka has been embarrassed the last 2 or 3 matches, and I think he will roll Thiem who has played a lot of tennis lately. Too many errors for Thiem on the way and Wawrinka will go into this match very motivated in my opinion.

Wawrinka 6-1 6-4

**EaglesPhan36** · 10-29-14, 01:23 AM

Meltzer is injured though, watch out Oppo of the above, Wawrinka has lacked any edge since the USO and has nothing to play for. Younger guys usually hungrier in this spot IMO

**Goat Milk** · 10-29-14, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Meltzer is injured though, watch out Oppo of the above, Wawrinka has lacked any edge since the USO and has nothing to play for. Younger guys usually hungrier in this spot IMO

Pride. WHy would you want to lose to thiem twice if your Wawrinka. Think of it like an athlete. That's hunger/motivation right there. We'll see.

**jtoler** · 10-29-14, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Wawrinka -3 -115 $115 to win $100

I see this as a no brainer. Wawrinka has been embarrassed the last 2 or 3 matches, and I think he will roll Thiem who has played a lot of tennis lately. Too many errors for Thiem on the way and Wawrinka will go into this match very motivated in my opinion.

Wawrinka 6-1 6-4

6-1, 6-4 doubt that, although Thiem can put in head scratchers, no motivation for Wawa.

**jtoler** · 10-29-14, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Wawrinka -3 -115 $115 to win $100

I see this as a no brainer. Wawrinka has been embarrassed the last 2 or 3 matches, and I think he will roll Thiem who has played a lot of tennis lately. Too many errors for Thiem on the way and Wawrinka will go into this match very motivated in my opinion.

Wawrinka 6-1 6-4

6-1, 6-4 doubt that, although Thiem can put in head scratchers, no motivation for Wawa.

**matt1216** · 10-29-14, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Meltzer is injured though, watch out Oppo of the above, Wawrinka has lacked any edge since the USO and has nothing to play for. Younger guys usually hungrier in this spot IMO

Melzer is not injured. Unless he twisted his ankle off the court . He looked pretty awsome vs Garcia-Lopez

**EaglesPhan36** · 10-29-14, 07:56 AM

Just relaying what I've read that he was carrying some sort of injury. Obviously not serious enough to keep him from playing, but makes him as iffy as anyone else I suppose. Not a great betting match since Tsonga is a coin flip to show or no show. Lots of its at work.

**Seto** · 10-29-14, 08:14 AM

Tsonga has been "resting" for a month because he's afraid of getting injured ahead of the Davis Cup final as Gasquet and Monfils have been. Meanwhile Federer who is much older than all of them has been playing nearly every week lol.

Fognini's odds sound weird but it's Fognini so you never know with him.

**Snowball** · 10-29-14, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by matt1216

Take Pouille. He has the confidence with him right now. He beat Johnson and Nieminen in straight sets which is no easy feat. Fognini, nobody knows. He can win this match if he cares, but I think he's in Holliday mode. Being in France, you will atleast get a effort no matter what from Pouille.

On the other side.
1) Pouille is a qualifier who mainly plays at the Challenger level in scrub tournaments. He's young, not 21 yet,
has talent but is not established as an ATP level player, ranking 176.
2) Fognini ranks 20 and has 7 years more experience.
3) Pouille recent victories can be easily dismissed, aside from showing good form. Johnson ? whatever. Nieminen ?
he's been playing a lot and is old. Karlovic ? bone tired from Basel, his serve was not there yesterday.
4) Fognini has had rest coming off dissapointment in Spain.. lost to Murray (no shame in that). lost to Kukushkin
and Gulbis (both who were very hot at the time). Stiffer level of competition. Fognini is used to playing vs the elite,
Pouille is used to playing marginal players.
5) Early round, indoor, don't expect a huge crowd for this match. It's not one of the premier matches.
6) Time off for Fognini gives him an opportunity to rebound. His girlfriend Pennetta is in Bulgaria so we know
he won't have weak legs.
7) discounted odds
8) Fognini is a solid combination of both speed and power. Pouille has speed, but Fognini will
blast balls past him, confuse him, and beat him easily. Pouille has nothing in his arsenal
that can hurt Fabio. Only if Fabio makes many errors or dfs would this match be in question.

**Bet10Heinekens** · 10-29-14, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Snowball

On the other side.
1) Pouille is a qualifier who mainly plays at the Challenger level in scrub tournaments. He's young, not 21 yet,
has talent but is not established as an ATP level player, ranking 176.
2) Fognini ranks 20 and has 7 years more experience.
3) Pouille recent victories can be easily dismissed, aside from showing good form. Johnson ? whatever. Nieminen ?
he's been playing a lot and is old. Karlovic ? bone tired from Basel, his serve was not there yesterday.
4) Fognini has had rest coming off dissapointment in Spain.. lost to Murray (no shame in that). lost to Kukushkin
and Gulbis (both who were very hot at the time). Stiffer level of competition. Fognini is used to playing vs the elite,
Pouille is used to playing marginal players.
5) Early round, indoor, don't expect a huge crowd for this match. It's not one of the premier matches.
6) Time off for Fognini gives him an opportunity to rebound. His girlfriend Pennetta is in Bulgaria so we know
he won't have weak legs.
7) discounted odds

All this but, Fagnini is a weak bitch, no heart fagg, he's probably in vacation mode and just here to pick up a paycheck

**riffraff24** · 10-29-14, 08:46 AM

Homophobe much

**Snowball** · 10-29-14, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Bet10Heinekens

All this but, Fagnini is a weak bitch, no heart fagg, he's probably in vacation mode and just here to pick up a paycheck

you don't rank 20 in world men's tennis by having those anti-qualities perpetually.

**baseballstud** · 10-29-14, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Bet10Heinekens

All this but, Fagnini is a weak bitch, no heart fagg, he's probably in vacation mode and just here to pick up a paycheck

Fagnini.....I see what you did there

**pattymayo** · 10-29-14, 09:25 AM

I didn't know fognini dated pennetta

**Snowball** · 10-29-14, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by pattymayo

I didn't know fognini dated pennetta

she tweeted something about a ring a few months ago

**MiddleMan** · 10-29-14, 10:21 AM

Chardy going very well against Federer.

**Hardcoar** · 10-29-14, 10:32 AM

Fognini vs Pouille isn't so much a bet on who will win, as it is a bet on whether Buttpirate gives a flying f*ck.

**Seto** · 10-29-14, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Fognini vs Pouille isn't so much a bet on who will win, as it is a bet on whether Buttpirate gives a flying f*ck.

**Bet10Heinekens** · 10-29-14, 11:31 AM

Steam on Lucas

books setting up the tennis newbs with the higher rank player getting +money

**1337 player** · 10-29-14, 11:59 AM

the Kid is good.
Just need to piss Foggy off to be sure

**1337 player** · 10-29-14, 12:01 PM

Lucas breaks!

**Bet10Heinekens** · 10-29-14, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by 1337 player

Lucas breaks!

Expect many more, Fagnini serve is shit while this French kid returns looks decent

he needs to hang during the rallies, hopefully he'll hit more winners

**Bet10Heinekens** · 10-29-14, 12:29 PM

Can Pouille break for the set

Fagnini getting frustrated

**Doughboy22** · 10-29-14, 12:43 PM

Wow fog has no sac. Unreal

**Hardcoar** · 10-29-14, 12:44 PM

On another note, this crowd should really get under Butt-Pirate's skin.

**Bet10Heinekens** · 10-29-14, 12:44 PM

Fagnini is such a fixer

**Bet10Heinekens** · 10-29-14, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

On another note, this crowd should really get under Butt-Pirate's skin.

Will he mentally check out now, looked like he did after he got broken serving for the set

**ManeOnFire** · 10-29-14, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Bet10Heinekens

Fagnini is such a fixer

Why doesn't he just win? Guy is mental!

**Doughboy22** · 10-29-14, 01:26 PM

Wow this dude is a choker

**1337 player** · 10-29-14, 01:33 PM

lol fognini is really angry

**1337 player** · 10-29-14, 01:33 PM

double faults and loses the match lol

**yisman** · 10-29-14, 01:33 PM

Fognini throws his racket and then starts screaming.

What was that all about?

Pouille wins 7-6 7-6