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  • gottimhimmel
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-08-13
    • 261

    #1
    Let's talk about the match we're all thinking about.
    French Open Quarterfinals: Tomas Berdych (1.67) v Ernests Gulbis (2.20)

    No surprise that Berdych comes in as a moderate favorite in this match. He has beaten Gulbis 4 out of 6 matches, and their only match on clay Berdych won 4,2.

    That being said, Ernests Gulbis comes in playing some of the best tennis of his life.

    I think his beating Federer in 5 sets can be looked at on of two ways:

    1: He comes into this quarterfinal tired from a hard fought, almost 4 hour match.

    2:He comes into this match with momentum and high morale, after having beaten one of tennis' titans

    My lean: Gulbis (2.20) in 4 or 5.

    I will not put in a bet on this match until I get some feedback from the community I respect. My book: carbonsports.ag only offers tennis ML's, no spreads or totals.

  • tennis005
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-27-14
    • 386

    #2
    Just a quick insight.. Berdych Struggles against Clay Court Specialists (Losing to Garcia Lopez, Nadal, Berlocq, Dmitrov (sort of) this year) but against Hard Hitting Clay Courters (Gulbis, Isner, Anderson) he owns. Its a battle of Serve and Forehand and Berdych will most likely win in 4 with 2 tiebreakers. Maybe 5th set if he gets cold on a tiebreak.
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    • tennis005
      SBR Sharp
      • 04-27-14
      • 386

      #3
      I wanna know more about this Djokovic vs Raonic match. Raonic is hot right now and djokovic just gave tsonga beating of his life. Does over 36.5 hit. I can't see why not, but on other hand I couldn't have predicted the ass whooping Tsonga received.
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      • Honeybadger44
        SBR MVP
        • 01-03-14
        • 1675

        #4
        Originally posted by tennis005
        Just a quick insight.. Berdych Struggles against Clay Court Specialists (Losing to Garcia Lopez, Nadal, Berlocq, Dmitrov (sort of) this year) but against Hard Hitting Clay Courters (Gulbis, Isner, Anderson) he owns. Its a battle of Serve and Forehand and Berdych will most likely win in 4 with 2 tiebreakers. Maybe 5th set if he gets cold on a tiebreak.
        What you said about Berdych, it makes sense, but still... You cannot put Gulbis in the same category of hard hitting players, with Isner and Anderson. He is so much better athlete, with amazing court coverage and pretty much equally good hitting from both wings. Yes, he serves and hits hard, but he can defend as well + win the long rallies. I am not saying that he is the play here, because I am not sure about these odds. Only saying that he is much more acomplished player, comparing to other hard hitting players.
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        • Chaz22
          SBR MVP
          • 09-30-10
          • 1152

          #5
          Originally posted by tennis005
          Just a quick insight.. Berdych Struggles against Clay Court Specialists (Losing to Garcia Lopez, Nadal, Berlocq, Dmitrov (sort of) this year) but against Hard Hitting Clay Courters (Gulbis, Isner, Anderson) he owns. Its a battle of Serve and Forehand and Berdych will most likely win in 4 with 2 tiebreakers. Maybe 5th set if he gets cold on a tiebreak.
          I don't agree. You can't compare Isner or Anderson (who do not defend) to Gulbis. The last one moves a lot better, even better than Berdych and on clay this will play vital role. The only thing that can save Berdych is high % on 1st serves and/or injury to Ernests which is highly possible as his physical condition is questionable.
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          • brodie
            SBR MVP
            • 11-25-13
            • 2212

            #6
            birdy rolls
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            • TheManager
              SBR Rookie
              • 04-23-14
              • 20

              #7
              Gulbis roll
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              • oldscho0led
                SBR MVP
                • 01-18-11
                • 1407

                #8
                Fed win was not a fluke. Gulbis got game.

                Gulbis +2.5 games
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                • Bet10Heinekens
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-10-13
                  • 10567

                  #9
                  Over 42
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                  • Hardcoar
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-17-13
                    • 15606

                    #10
                    I think Berdych wins, and that he is more likely to than the odds imply.
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                    • EaglesPhan36
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 71662

                      #11
                      Oooh I am on the same side as the professor! Sweet.

                      My whole question is why are people treating Gulbis' win over Fed as some marquee moment? It's nice, but treating it as a signature win shows the flaws in Gulbis' career more than anything to me. Beating Federer in a Slam at this stage is not marquee. It's beating a top ten player for sure, but not like beating Djokovic or Nadal who are still in their primes.
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                      • sluggy1616
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-21-13
                        • 1317

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                        Oooh I am on the same side as the professor! Sweet.

                        My whole question is why are people treating Gulbis' win over Fed as some marquee moment? It's nice, but treating it as a signature win shows the flaws in Gulbis' career more than anything to me. Beating Federer in a Slam at this stage is not marquee. It's beating a top ten player for sure, but not like beating Djokovic or Nadal who are still in their primes.
                        Eagles right on it. Feddy's got babies at home. For Feddy, tennis is nice, tennis is fun, but tennis is no longer his love.
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                        • Hardcoar
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-17-13
                          • 15606

                          #13
                          With my recent luck it isn't very sweet.
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                          • EaglesPhan36
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-06-06
                            • 71662

                            #14
                            Two polished turds = one shining shit?
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                            • Vinnie Paz
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-27-12
                              • 12177

                              #15
                              Fukkin berdych looks like trash
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                              • Marillion
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-06-14
                                • 1453

                                #16
                                There is a dozen of challenger tourneys now and some lines were off IMO, much better than trying to beat the books at late rounds of a GS when tons of money are getting bet and bookies are putting a lot of effort in sharpening the lines.
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                                • tennis005
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 04-27-14
                                  • 386

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chaz22
                                  I don't agree. You can't compare Isner or Anderson (who do not defend) to Gulbis. The last one moves a lot better, even better than Berdych and on clay this will play vital role. The only thing that can save Berdych is high % on 1st serves and/or injury to Ernests which is highly possible as his physical condition is questionable.

                                  He beat Isner in straights, Im thinking it will go 4 or 5, because of the fact that gulbis is much more athletic than the big guys. I am just comparing style of game, Gulbis is not a grinder, he don't have the mindset for that
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                                  • yisman
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-01-08
                                    • 75682

                                    #18
                                    5 Dimes not offering in play betting on this; only for the Djokovic match. Strange.
                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                    [/quote]

                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-06-06
                                      • 71662

                                      #19
                                      It's 5dimes, who knows what they ever think
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                                      • sluggy1616
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-21-13
                                        • 1317

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by yisman
                                        5 Dimes not offering in play betting on this; only for the Djokovic match. Strange.

                                        I am getting a live line on this match. Maybe 5dimes has some kinda of filter that includes/exclude who get live odds.
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                                        • yisman
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-01-08
                                          • 75682

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sluggy1616
                                          I am getting a live line on this match. Maybe 5dimes has some kinda of filter that includes/exclude who get live odds.
                                          oh, I was doing in play betting. They also have live.


                                          I meant from the main page


                                          French Open - Paris, France - Internet Only - in progress betting
                                          set must be completed for action
                                          Tue 6/3 251 M.Raonic Wins 2nd Set +333
                                          9:30AM 252 N.Djokovic Wins 2nd Set -415
                                          tie break must be completed for action
                                          Tue 6/3 251 M.Raonic wins first set tie break +169
                                          9:30AM 252 N.Djokovic wins first set tie break -198



                                          trouble with 'live' betting is it's cloned from the same platform youwager, Heritage, and others use.
                                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                          [/quote]

                                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                          • Vinnie Paz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-27-12
                                            • 12177

                                            #22
                                            Berd man is smiling now
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                                            • bababooey13
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-13-13
                                              • 1897

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                              Oooh I am on the same side as the professor! Sweet.

                                              My whole question is why are people treating Gulbis' win over Fed as some marquee moment? It's nice, but treating it as a signature win shows the flaws in Gulbis' career more than anything to me. Beating Federer in a Slam at this stage is not marquee. It's beating a top ten player for sure, but not like beating Djokovic or Nadal who are still in their primes.
                                              it was a huge win for gulbis' confidence going forward imo. people may have been overreacting, for sure, but it doesn't mean you aren't downplaying it.
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                                              • sluggy1616
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-21-13
                                                • 1317

                                                #24
                                                Maybe I'm just a jerk, but if I was Birdy I'd try to find some way to upset Gulbis mentally at this point. We all kno what happens when Gulbis gets mentally frustrated.
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                                                • yisman
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                  • 75682

                                                  #25
                                                  Berdych double faults to give away another break

                                                  He's unraveled and looks about done
                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                  [/quote]

                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                  • beantown34
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-31-13
                                                    • 1110

                                                    #26
                                                    Birdy is toast
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                                                    • Vinnie Paz
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-27-12
                                                      • 12177

                                                      #27
                                                      Hope he just retires lol although he looks fine....
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                                                      • matt1216
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-27-11
                                                        • 14683

                                                        #28
                                                        ​Berdych is a clown and I still havnt learned from this idiot.... Gulbis has won, it's over
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                                                        • Cappinpicks
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-11-10
                                                          • 14986

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                                          Fukkin berdych looks like trash
                                                          No kidding he always does just like all Philly teams
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 71662

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bababooey13
                                                            it was a huge win for gulbis' confidence going forward imo. people may have been overreacting, for sure, but it doesn't mean you aren't downplaying it.
                                                            This win is 10x mightier to follow up the last one. Old fashioned beatdown
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