Tobias Kamke +750

[DoubleRedDragon]

Riding this and hedging it with Ferrer 2-1 +340 to win my money back.

So $100 to win $750 Tobias Kamke
and $30 to win $102 Ferrer 2-1

GL

[Sam_Hawkins]

so it's -$130 for you when ferrer wins 2-0 (imo the most possible outcome)?

[JNic]

?? Ferrer is going to kill him

[beefcake]

Kamke is no DOO DOO...

[JNic]

Kamke is no DOO DOO...

Exactly, he is going to give Ferrer a million chances to measure his forehand unlike Brown who tried to take all outcomes on his racket (which was the perfect tactic for him). If he lost this I would be shocked

[JNic]

In fact look at Ferrer's schedule last year, he never once was upset against a guy like Kamke, the only time was when he lost to Wawrinka who is a top 20 talent that can bring a lot more to the table than Kamke. Ferrer feasts on guys like Kamke, the only way you get paid is if Ferrer got hurt and you are at a 1 set book

[JNic]

Ferrer has losses to Benneteau, Istomin and Bellucci (on clay) and if anyone has seen those guys when they are on fire, they play in a whole different level than Kamke can ever reach...

[DoubleRedDragon]

my reasoning is that i think this line is inflated.

Kamke NEEDS some points bad. If he beats Ferrer here he could establish himself on the tour. I see him putting it all on the line and winning a set at least.

[DoubleRedDragon]

Ferrer is just too much of a favorite from what I see but we'll see. I'm still riding my money from my big win on Kubot yesterday.

[Optional]

Kamke breaks in opening game.

[beefcake]

And like the stiff he is, he proceeds to lose it..

[JNic]

Ferrer is just too much of a favorite from what I see but we'll see. I'm still riding my money from my big win on Kubot yesterday.

No, ferrer deserves his line every single time. He consistently takes out the trash

[JNic]

my reasoning is that i think this line is inflated.

Kamke NEEDS some points bad. If he beats Ferrer here he could establish himself on the tour. I see him putting it all on the line and winning a set at least.

Lol who cares what this guy needs. Kamke is almost completely influenced by the guy across the net, he is making serious strides though and Ill look to him in the future for upsets but against any top guys he is finished

[DoubleRedDragon]

live and learn... gonna have to start getting more disciplined.

[JNic]

live and learn... gonna have to start getting more disciplined.

I wasn't trying to be a prick, but Ferrer is unfadeable in general imo. Unless there is like something visibly wrong with him, the year he just had and the amount of work the guy puts in, I just can't ever see a huge letdown from him at the moment

[Optional]

Whilst you are talking unfadable, what do you think about Berdych's prospects this year?

He used to be a reasonable fade in '10 and '11 but he turned that around in '12 I think.

[MUHerd37]

Never fade Ferrer unless he is playing against a top player.