so Bovada is double dealing me lines now and charging me an extra 5 cents....

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  • thebigtuna
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-02-12
    • 281

    #1
    so Bovada is double dealing me lines now and charging me an extra 5 cents....
    so Bovada is double dealing me lines now and charging me an extra 5 cents on my underdogs...

    anyone know if i bet some favorites now if it will go back eventually?

    (ive confirmed the double dealing with multiple poker/sports friends who also play on the site)
  • thebigtuna
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-02-12
    • 281

    #2
    they are also paying me 5-10 cents less on all underdog moneylines....seems mostly for football, i dont think its screwing with my baseball yet....even though thats what ive played mostly on the site.
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    • PharaohUB
      SBR MVP
      • 01-23-07
      • 4865

      #3
      play somewhere else?
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      • John Dough
        SBR MVP
        • 09-21-05
        • 1785

        #4
        No, they will never go back. They've had dual lines for over a decade; it's common knowledge, not a secret.

        Time to move on...
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        • Easy-Rider 66
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-14-12
          • 36084

          #5
          Yeah, Move on. Plenty of other superior shops out there.
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          • thebigtuna
            SBR Sharp
            • 01-02-12
            • 281

            #6
            im thinking about 5dimes, but BetIslands seems pretty attractive with their promos, anyone know how to get poker rakeback at 5dimes?
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            • hubie69
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-16-10
              • 7329

              #7
              Go find a local bookie.
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              • Frogger
                SBR Sharp
                • 04-17-10
                • 382

                #8
                Funny how once a year someone posts this as if they've experienced the greatest injustice known to man.
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                • wrongturn
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-06-06
                  • 2228

                  #9
                  Congratulations! You just got the first trophy of this grand online betting game.
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                  • thebigtuna
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 281

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Frogger
                    Funny how once a year someone posts this as if they've experienced the greatest injustice known to man.
                    i didnt mean it that way at all, i was just wondering if it would ever go back thats all.
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                    • BranchDavidian
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-10
                      • 1014

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frogger
                      Funny how once a year someone posts this as if they've experienced the greatest injustice known to man.
                      This may not be the greatest injustice of all time, but it certainly is an injustice. If a bookie did this to me, I would get upset also. But before I left, I would look to see if I could take advantage of any of their favorite lines that should be 5 to 10 cents over market.
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                      • thebigtuna
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 281

                        #12
                        im thinking about 5dimes, but betislands seems pretty attractive with their promos, anyone know how to get poker rakeback at 5dimes?
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                        • thebigtuna
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 281

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BranchDavidian
                          This may not be the greatest injustice of all time, but it certainly is an injustice. If a bookie did this to me, I would get upset also. But before I left, I would look to see if I could take advantage of any of their favorite lines that should be 5 to 10 cents over market.
                          absolutely ill keep it and check always before i place a bet at another book.
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                          • PharaohUB
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-23-07
                            • 4865

                            #14
                            Dual lines doesn't piss me off as much as books that will adjust the line after you go to submit the bet ONLY when it's in their favor! Heritage used to do this to me, but not anymore. Small shops it's almost a given that's how you will be treated. They build that shit right into the software.
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                            • thebigtuna
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 281

                              #15
                              i mean and bovada gets an A rating from SBR doing this bullshit?
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                              • thebigtuna
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 281

                                #16
                                just because everyone knows they do it and its "well known".....
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                                • FreeseOut
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 05-22-12
                                  • 21

                                  #17
                                  I emailed them the other day about the exact same thing that is happening to me. Their response was pretty entertaining-

                                  Thanks for contacting Bovada Customer Service.


                                  We adjust the juice associated with a Spread based on the amount of action we receive. A line can start as -7 (-110), but change to -7 (-115) if there’s a lot of action on one side.

                                  Adjusting the attached Moneyline on a Spread will balance the action. Depending on your wager, off-standard lines can work in your advantage. An alternative to adjusting the juice is changing the Spread of the game. Changing the Spread is a last resort, but it’ll happen every now and then if there’s too much action on one side.

                                  We’re a recreational gaming site so you’ll see more off standard lines here when comparing us to sharp books. Unfortunately, they can’t offer off standard lines because it’ll be too costly for their business. Our Book Managers are among the best in the industry so they’ll do their best to balance the action appropriately.

                                  Our lines will constantly change depending on which side the action goes. We’ll also move lines depending on if we get any updated information on the event. Since our lines are always moving, and we have a number of servers all over the country, it could be that they are not seeing the most current information.



                                  Our Customer Service Team is available at service@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.

                                  Thanks,

                                  Bovada Customer Service
                                  service@bovada.lv


                                  Don't forget to add www.bovada.lv to your bookmarks and refer your friends for extra cash today!

                                  Like others have said just use it to get a favorite .5 cheaper.


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                                  • chopperocker
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-16-09
                                    • 1784

                                    #18
                                    most shops do it. balance action without moving number. online shops can profile you as an individual and modify lines/moneyline against wagering behavior patterns you show.
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                                    • evo34
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-09-08
                                      • 1032

                                      #19
                                      Who besides Bovada, Heritage and Betislands deals dual lines?


                                      Originally posted by chopperocker
                                      most shops do it. balance action without moving number. online shops can profile you as an individual and modify lines/moneyline against wagering behavior patterns you show.
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