Do Asians have inside information?

[citlec]

Do the Asians bookmakers have inside information on fix games?

The reason why i ask this is because ive just been keeping a eye on a Russia Division 1 game between Anzhi Makhachkala V Rostov. I noticed it at half time and i thought the odds was way out of line compared to the form guide.

The score at half time was Anzhi Makhachkala 1-2 Rostov, but the Asians books had the handicap at half time as -1.5 with the odds of 1.22. So the Asians books was offering 1.22 on Anzhi winning the game even though they was 2-1 down at half time. The over and under handicap was 5 with over being 1.55.

True to the odds Anzhi scored 2 goals in 3 minutes, one being a penalty then with 20 minutes left to play they didnt offer a match handicap but put up over and under 5.5 for the goals even though 5 minutes earlier they was over 5 before the 2 goals was scored.

So my question is do they know about these fixed games?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Fk Rostov games often have "interesting betting patterns" :-)

The Asian books maybe react faster because they have larger limits and lower vig, so that's where anyone with knowledge of a fix would probably go.

[citlec]

I once saw a message on Mansion88 announcements page about a game where all in running bets was cancelled "because of strange betting patterns". Surely this game would come under this then.

Max bet was only £200 not the thousands sometimes in running.

[thespeculator]

which books are asian books, are they listed on sbr

[citlec]

Im talking about the big 4 asians book

12Bet
188Bet
Mansion88
SBOBet

[APK]

The Asian books maybe react faster because they have larger limits and lower vig, so that's where anyone with knowledge of a fix would probably go.

My thoughts exactly.

Shinnik Yaroslavl – Spartak Nalchik (Sat 25 Oct 16:30) is also a nice one.
Does anybody know an Asian bookie that still offers odds on this match?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

My thoughts exactly.

Shinnik Yaroslavl – Spartak Nalchik (Sat 25 Oct 16:30) is also a nice one.
Does anybody know an Asian bookie that still offers odds on this match?

Yeah, I noticed that one last night. Was around evens, then every bookie in the world got HAMMERED, down to -200, -300, -400, then pulled it completely.

[jjgold]

The question is how much money is bet on a game like this on average?

[pico]

i thought i was the only person pay attention to russian soccer here. never done ht betting on russian.

[APK]

The question is how much money is bet on a game like this on average?

Dunno, but now there's 143.000 euro matched @ betfair on that match (which is highly unusual) and the odds are going up.

Glad I didn't get involved.

[jjgold]

What is 143.000 Euro in usa dollars?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Bout $180k.

I'm guessing most of this is late money, the odds at betfair are way lower than at the books last night.

[RogueJuror]

oh vladivostok, how i love you and how i miss you

[jjgold]

180k is a solid amount on a russian soccer league game so funny business is highly probable

watch he board

[APK]

180k is a solid amount on a russian soccer league game so funny business is highly probable

watch he board

Add another 40.000 euro to it (xe.com does the math ) and counting.
After last weeks Rubin Kazan fix this might be caused by people manipulating the market.
Someone told me a week ago this match would be a fix because of that, but that might as well have been part of a plan to make loads of money out of this match by spreading that rumour.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Need more than a rumour I think - last night literally about 40 books yanked the market completely. That takes a huge amount of money.

[APK]

Need more than a rumour I think - last night literally about 40 books yanked the market completely. That takes a huge amount of money.

Last weeks Rubin Kazan 'fix' went only down, down, down.
I would like to see a fix-alert topic on this subforum.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Didn't Kazan win 2-0? Or am I thinking of another match?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Betfair seems to have bid this up back close to rational prices, although there are still almost no books offering odds :-)

[citlec]

No asian book have this up but im sure they will offer it in running.

[pico]

who cares. when i bet russian soccer, i never look at players or stats, i just follow the money. cuz 80% of time, money goes where the fix is.

i only do this for china soccer and eastern european games. especailly china soccer, past numbers means nothing cuz 90% of the games are fixed...that is why not many books offer odds.

[pico]

lower the limit, the higher probability of a fix. this is part of gambling though. sometimes you get lucky and end up the correct side of a fix...but most of the time, you won't even though it is a fixed game even after the game is over.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

NUmer of books offering other Russian Premier games: 41
Number of books offering Yaroslav match: 2 (and one is sportsbook.com!)

[citlec]

It seems to have settled down now with odds about 1.83. Strange how it went all the way down to 1.18 then back up to 2.56 then back down to 1.83.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Yeah :-) I'm really curious to see what happens now, match starts in a few minutes.....

[citlec]

away side matched at 55

[citlec]

12bet have it in running like i said they would. Currently home team are -0.5/-1 at 2.052

[citlec]

Half Time 0-1

[HeeeHAWWWW]

1-1 ....... and 12bet no longer offering odds at all.


Massive halftime bet perhaps?

[CaneDawg]

not on NFL,MLB,NCAA, etc

[citlec]

2-1 now

Strange how they took it off. They still had it up at the 58th minute.

[citlec]

Just noticed the away side score right on half time.

[citlec]

back up at 12bet

[APK]

1-1 ....... and 12bet no longer offering odds at all.


Massive halftime bet perhaps?

2-1 now, maybe a HT/FT fix?

[noyb]

Need more than a rumour I think - last night literally about 40 books yanked the market completely. That takes a huge amount of money.

not so much. books watch the market very closely (themselves or through a company like betradar), if something strange is happening on betfair or in asia, they will take the game off the board, possibly without ever taking one bet on the game themselves. if a few cut it, the rest will always follow suit, especially on these kinds of obscure matches they will only take a few bets on anyway.