Scammers and PPH sites- very important topic

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  • Fred Flintstone
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-08-12
    • 41

    #1
    Scammers and PPH sites- very important topic
    I know PPH business is not covered by SBR or other forums but since many PPH sites are run out of Post-up operations-

    Examples:

    betonline = payperhead.com

    ezstreet = mysportoffice

    Jazz = abcperhead

    heritage runs a pay per head site

    and many more do also-


    I think a dedicated forum for complaints agains PPH is warranted. Especially since most PPH will lie for the agents and pretend like they are helping you. Honorable PPH sites should be praised while ones who allow scams to run should be outed.


    It is a large business offshore and SBR should allow complaints to be filed- It will stop a lot of the scams- especially ones being run through post up organizations SBR has ties with-


    This post is important and must stand and something legit needs to be done to rate these PPH sites- All the sites supposedly rating the PPH are owned and operated by the PPH themselves-



    This is a very important issues right now offshore- If PPH were monitored and scammers web domains were outed it will make the industry "cleaner"



    Let's make it happen
  • Frank
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-13-07
    • 918

    #2
    PPH sites are completely different than betting credit at books.

    PPH is just selling use of the software, lines, etc.

    Anybody can use them.
    Last edited by Frank; 07-16-12, 12:52 PM.
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    • Fred Flintstone
      SBR Rookie
      • 05-08-12
      • 41

      #3
      Originally posted by Frank
      PPH sites are completely different than betting credit at books.

      PPH is just selling use of the software, lines, etc.

      Anybody can use them.


      PPH are the CREDIT SITES- and yes- anyone can call and become a bookie-that is my point- there needs to be more policing of these places that lie to players and back scammers- your not going to get rid of every scammer but it will help a lot of these places had some policing of the industry-


      My other point is that SBR polices the post ups that run many of these sites and have contacts to help- and that is what they seem they want to do offshore- clean it up and get people paid and not get scammed- I think it can be done- not perfectly but it can be done with a sub forum and someone players can contact to reach out on there behalf-

      Only people who would not want this are the scammers using these places to steal
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      • FreeFall
        SBR MVP
        • 02-20-08
        • 3365

        #4
        why do I need a PPH? Is this for people too scared to do their own dirty work and want someone else to help them in the scheme?
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        • taxer
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 05-31-11
          • 630

          #5
          Pph will never back up what an agent does , it defeats the purpose of their service.. just service bookmakers offering whatever they want to offer PPH sites are not the bank simply a service
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          • wrongturn
            SBR MVP
            • 06-06-06
            • 2228

            #6
            Rating is useless, as players do not choose what PPH to use. Whether a PPH good or bad is totally separated from whether your agent can pay or not.
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            • Fred Flintstone
              SBR Rookie
              • 05-08-12
              • 41

              #7
              Originally posted by taxer
              Pph will never back up what an agent does , it defeats the purpose of their service.. just service bookmakers offering whatever they want to offer PPH sites are not the bank simply a service

              Not true- I know of at least 3 places that will toss agents for non payments of players- It is just the way an old school shop will handle things- not all are created equal and not all are just taking money from scammers- that is my point
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              • Fred Flintstone
                SBR Rookie
                • 05-08-12
                • 41

                #8
                Originally posted by wrongturn
                Rating is useless, as players do not choose what PPH to use. Whether a PPH good or bad is totally separated from whether your agent can pay or not.

                I am saying a PPH site CAN help and shut down scammers if they want- most will take the fees and turn there head- but there are a few that will not stand for it- and these are the ones that should get praised-

                There is something that should be said about being honorable-
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 51874

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fred Flintstone
                  I am saying a PPH site CAN help and shut down scammers if they want- most will take the fees and turn there head- but there are a few that will not stand for it- and these are the ones that should get praised-

                  There is something that should be said about being honorable-
                  wrong business for that

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                  • Fred Flintstone
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 05-08-12
                    • 41

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                    wrong business for that


                    Not ones that who have there own business to book and want to keep there reps in tact-


                    Believe me there are some that won't take the money from scammers- I just think rating them in this manner will help guys before they take accounts from a dead beat wanna be bookie-
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                    • brendon
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-10-09
                      • 443

                      #11
                      this is stupid and a waste of time. a bookie can pick up his clients and set up with another pph in less than a day. most pph wouldn't give a crap.
                      do your homework on your locals like you would do on online sportsbooks.
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                      • Fred Flintstone
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 05-08-12
                        • 41

                        #12
                        Yes- u should know who is booking your bets and that should be all on you-


                        but way 2 many scammers and scamming PPH out there that nothing should be done- whether SBR wants to admit it or not- credit is what makes this offshore industry run-
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