few ?s bout rebate wager

firehoyt · 08-06-11, 06:19 AM

Yea they take US players but I can't find any info on the rollover requirements. Also wondering which is the best bonus, the 100% freeplay or the cash back?!? Any one had experience with rebate wager?! Speak up!!

bigbet1234 · 08-06-11, 08:36 AM

the 100% is invited only from what i understand. it comes with a 14x roll. free play can only be used on foots, up to a money line of +190. baseball counts as towards half the roll. rollover is caculated on the lesser of the risk/win

they have a variety of deposit and withdrawal methods. they pay fairly quick, as i got a large payout back in april

RWager · 08-06-11, 11:36 AM

Hi, this is Lucia from RebateWager !
I'll be around to answer any questions you may have.
Right now we are offering the RW SEASON PASS PROMO...You can either choose to receive 50% Cash Back or 100% Free Play. Deposit between now and August 31, 2011 and lock in your bonus for your first ten deposits. Limited to the first 200 new members.
Rollovers:
50% Cash back: 6x on rebate amount.
100% FP: 250-8x / 500-10x / 1,000-12x on deposit amount + FP amount + FP winnings.
FP is limited to NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB.
No restrictions on rebates.
No holds.
For further information on rollovers and banking you can check out these links:
http://www.rebatewager.com/generalbonusrules.html
http://www.rebatewager.com/withdrawals.html

You can also contact me via chat in our website.

Cheers !!!

jeter12171 · 08-06-11, 11:41 AM

tyvm

big joe 1212 · 08-06-11, 12:00 PM

just live chat with them and they will explain all the rules etc

they are very quick with responses

RWager · 08-06-11, 12:50 PM

Hi, this is Lucia from RebateWager!

firehoyt · 08-06-11, 05:21 PM

I signed up for an acct this morning and got an email saying I'd be contacted shortly. 10 hours later, still nothing. Doesn't sound like good CS to me!

pokernut9999 · 08-06-11, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by firehoyt

I signed up for an acct this morning and got an email saying I'd be contacted shortly. 10 hours later, still nothing. Doesn't sound like good CS to me!

Use live chat

big joe 1212 · 08-06-11, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by firehoyt

I signed up for an acct this morning and got an email saying I'd be contacted shortly. 10 hours later, still nothing. Doesn't sound like good CS to me!

If you want an account, just call or use live chat.

dark star · 08-06-11, 08:39 PM

Vanilla lines and late lines

RED · 08-06-11, 10:15 PM

I called them just before last football season to setup a account. The wagering limits seemed reasonable.

My problem was this: They only allow you to wager 50% of your first deposit for 30 days. So I called up and said "say I depo $500 make my first wager for say 330 to win 300 and it hits, then I wager 770 to win 700, then maybe its Sunday night football and I wanna take a shot for a big payout and risk 1400?" That's how I play sometimes, and it's fun to me. I like the rush of playing like that.

I was told with my $500 depo I could only play $250 max wagers.

So I messaged blackie by email, I told him that I wasnt looking to crush the house limits or anything, So I told him how I wanted to play, same as above. And he responded back to me by email telling me that I may be able to do that but I would have to give up the right to have rebates on my account (lol so much for the site name, rebate wager lol) So even though that was one of the pluses for me joining the book, I was like whatever. So I emailed him back and said fine, I will give up my right to have rebates on the account if I was not limited. So I said if you could email me confirmation that you set my account not to get rebates and that I have no limits except the house limits I will deposit.

He never emailed me back. So I never deposited.

It's a tough time in the U.S. for things like this, so I want to be extra careful when I choose a book. To me rebate wager came across as being scared from a new person doing a depo and rolling up a few grand on them fast. I want to feel at ease when I play at a book.

big joe 1212 · 08-06-11, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by RED

I called them just before last football season to setup a account. The wagering limits seemed reasonable.

My problem was this: They only allow you to wager 50% of your first deposit for 30 days. So I called up and said "say I depo $500 make my first wager for say 330 to win 300 and it hits, then I wager 770 to win 700, then maybe its Sunday night football and I wanna take a shot for a big payout and risk 1400?" That's how I play sometimes, and it's fun to me. I like the rush of playing like that.

I was told with my $500 depo I could only play $250 max wagers.

So I messaged blackie by email, I told him that I wasnt looking to crush the house limits or anything, So I told him how I wanted to play, same as above. And he responded back to me by email telling me that I may be able to do that but I would have to give up the right to have rebates on my account (lol so much for the site name, rebate wager lol) So even though that was one of the pluses for me joining the book, I was like whatever. So I emailed him back and said fine, I will give up my right to have rebates on the account if I was not limited. So I said if you could email me confirmation that you set my account not to get rebates and that I have no limits except the house limits I will deposit.

He never emailed me back. So I never deposited.

It's a tough time in the U.S. for things like this, so I want to be extra careful when I choose a book. To me rebate wager came across as being scared from a new person doing a depo and rolling up a few grand on them fast. I want to feel at ease when I play at a book.

they wouldnt give you rebates when playing your balance like that because people could have 2 accounts, bet each side of the game with entire balances, then double up on one account and the other account gets a rebate, making yourself a guaranteed winner.

mrmarket · 08-07-11, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by dark star

Vanilla lines and late lines

This.

bigbet1234 · 08-07-11, 08:04 AM

I Lucia, i was given information that is totally different.

i was told 14 times my roll, freeplay could only be used on NFL. which is it?

BLACKIE · 08-07-11, 08:32 AM

Red,

My recollection of the events isn't quite the same as yours but let's not get into that. When we first launched RW we had a model and we followed. If players wanted to bet bigger amounts they simply needed to make larger deposits. We did this to avoid one hit wonders and shoot takers. Without any limitations or restriction on the rebates it just didn't make sense for us to let players go all in. Like any business we have adopted to better service players like yourself. If you choose or standard rebate you will still be limited to 50% max bet based on deposit amount, however if you choose our free play bonus or our enhanced rebate you can bet up to house limits 3k NFL, 2k NCAA Foots.

BLACKIE · 08-07-11, 08:38 AM

Bigbet1234

We've made some changes to the initial bonus structure based on feedback from visitors to our site. Lucias post is spot on.

Firehoyt,

The weekend has been bit hectic as we our completing our full move to our new offices. Our sales automation system will be fully functional by tomorrow and we should be able to get to the back log of those of you looking to sign up.

Santo · 08-07-11, 08:41 AM

Seeing as you're here, whatever happened to the exchange? It seems Ganchrow moved on?

BLACKIE · 08-07-11, 09:06 AM

We've put the xchange a hold as we just can't see it being profitable with all the processing restrictions. You need processing for liquidity and without processing we wont be able to get that. We really thought the US would ease up on the regulation and an exchange would be perceived differently then sportsbooks. Maybe some day but for now our focus is on our existing member base and reaching our quota of new members fo this year. Good luck to those of you that took part in our betas and I appreciate your help.

RED · 08-07-11, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

they wouldnt give you rebates when playing your balance like that because people could have 2 accounts, bet each side of the game with entire balances, then double up on one account and the other account gets a rebate, making yourself a guaranteed winner.

That would be mighty black of me to do something like that. I was not looking to do anything of the sort, just wanted a spot to play.

RED · 08-07-11, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by BLACKIE

Red,

My recollection of the events isn't quite the same as yours but let's not get into that. When we first launched RW we had a model and we followed. If players wanted to bet bigger amounts they simply needed to make larger deposits. We did this to avoid one hit wonders and shoot takers. Without any limitations or restriction on the rebates it just didn't make sense for us to let players go all in. Like any business we have adopted to better service players like yourself. If you choose or standard rebate you will still be limited to 50% max bet based on deposit amount, however if you choose our free play bonus or our enhanced rebate you can bet up to house limits 3k NFL, 2k NCAA Foots.

I understand 100%. I am for sure a shot taker, but who is not, everybody wants to beat the book for lots. However with that being said I was not looking for a shop to hit and run on. I just really liked one of your payout options so I wanted to use you for the season. I do not play MLB much but I play NFL/NCAAF & NBA/NCAAB. I do not need rebates or free plays All though if I was getting my ass kicked for a few weeks in a row a 50% rebate on a big play or a free play would be a nice gesture. Over all through the four sports I listed above I am a over all loser every season. All I wanted to do is depo and be able to play the house limits. If I depo $300 and roll it up to $600 and want to take a chance and risk all $600 on a game for a dime payout or something, there shouldnt be a problem with that. But I understand your point, your do not want any hit and run guys. I wouldnt be like that, I would give you guys my business.

BLACKIE · 08-07-11, 01:08 PM

Red,

Hit and run coments aren't specific to you. I come from a business where I've had players with me for 20 years and in post up they come and go on a regular basis. Ultimately all the decisions I make are based on protecting our members and our brand and providing the best playing environment for those members. I can't name any other shop out there that gives as much back as we do and stands by their payouts with a guarantee. Give us a shoot this year and I think you'll be happy.

firehoyt · 08-07-11, 04:14 PM

Blackie. I finally hit Harvey up on chat. He got me the info I requested. I will probably post up with ya in the next week or so.

firehoyt · 08-07-11, 04:20 PM

One question I have is the rollover between the freeplay and the freeplay winnings. Say I deposit $200, choose the 100% freeplay, play one $200 freeplay and hit for $150, would the rollover requirement be met at $4400? Even though my freeplay winnings didn't equal the freeplay amount? Maybe I'm asking a dumb question. Just wondering if there was a rollover requirement between the freeplay + winnings?!

firehoyt · 08-07-11, 04:24 PM

That make any sense?

DukeJohn · 08-07-11, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by firehoyt

One question I have is the rollover between the freeplay and the freeplay winnings. Say I deposit $200, choose the 100% freeplay, play one $200 freeplay and hit for $150, would the rollover requirement be met at $4400? Even though my freeplay winnings didn't equal the freeplay amount? Maybe I'm asking a dumb question. Just wondering if there was a rollover requirement between the freeplay + winnings?!

Rollover I believe would be $200 deposit + $200 Freeplay + $150 Winnings = $550 x 8 = $4,400. So, yes, you are correct.

RWager · 08-07-11, 05:27 PM

Hi there Firehoyt,

Thank you for your question. Rollover is based on the greater of the deposit amount plus the free play amount or the deposit amount plus the free play winnings.

Let's say you deposit $200 and we give you a $200 free play. If you lose the free play your rollover will be based on your deposit and free play amount only which equals 3,200. Now if you win $150 with your free play we will take the greater amount of the two (deposit amount and free play winnings). This means your rollover will be 3,200. If you win $250 with your free play it would be $200 deposit + $250 free play winnings, for a total rollover of 3,600.

Cheers,

Lucia

firehoyt · 08-07-11, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by DukeJohn

Rollover I believe would be $200 deposit + $200 Freeplay + $150 Winnings = $550 x 8 = $4,400. So, yes, you are correct.

Thanks. I just didn't know if there was a rollover requirement as far as winnings with the freeplay before you start calculating the rollover requirements w/ initial deposit + 100% freeplay + freeplay winnings.

DukeJohn · 08-08-11, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by RWager

Hi there Firehoyt,

Thank you for your question. Rollover is based on the greater of the deposit amount plus the free play amount or the deposit amount plus the free play winnings.

Let's say you deposit $200 and we give you a $200 free play. If you lose the free play your rollover will be based on your deposit and free play amount only which equals 3,200. Now if you win $150 with your free play we will take the greater amount of the two (deposit amount and free play winnings). This means your rollover will be 3,200. If you win $250 with your free play it would be $200 deposit + $250 free play winnings, for a total rollover of 3,600.

Cheers,

Lucia

Ah, thanks for the clarification. So the rollover is deposit + (freeplay or winnings from freeplay, whichever is greater) then of course times the multiplier. Well that has the potential to be a lot less of a rollover then what, err, was shown on the website, I see the site is updated to give a more accurate clarification reiterating what you posted.

Thanks again,

RWager · 08-08-11, 12:05 PM

You are very welcome Duke John !!

Lucia.

RED · 08-09-11, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by BLACKIE

Red,

Hit and run coments aren't specific to you. I come from a business where I've had players with me for 20 years and in post up they come and go on a regular basis. Ultimately all the decisions I make are based on protecting our members and our brand and providing the best playing environment for those members. I can't name any other shop out there that gives as much back as we do and stands by their payouts with a guarantee. Give us a shoot this year and I think you'll be happy.

Ok I will give you guys a shot, BetJM & Greek are gone now so I need a solid book to play at. I have to get my account info again, I will send you guys out an email today.

RED · 08-09-11, 10:28 AM

Got my account info, customer service is always real nice and helpful. I seen you guys have a casino coming to the site on 9/1 are you guys going to be doing poker as well? Or any of those multi player blackjack tourneys??

RWager · 08-09-11, 11:48 AM

Hi there RED!

We will not have Poker; we will be opening up with about a dozen basic online casino games and going to a live dealer system by the end of the year.
Cheers,

Lucía.

RED · 08-09-11, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by RWager

Hi there RED!

We will not have Poker; we will be opening up with about a dozen basic online casino games and going to a live dealer system by the end of the year.
Cheers,

Lucía.

Live dealer, thats nice. Those are always fun

DustyRhodes · 08-09-11, 02:58 PM

They boot you after your first decent winning streak!