I never knew Bodog was this big back in '05

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  • shari91
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    • 02-23-10
    • 32661

    #1
    I never knew Bodog was this big back in '05
    Again I was looking for something else and stumbled across this. I'm admittedly not an offshore guru but I've tried to keep up through the years, even when I didn't have to utilise their services if I didn't want to. The whole article is broken down into sections and is quite interesting but here's the Bodog part. From September 2005.

    When he moved from Canada to San Jose, Costa Rica, in 1995, Calvin Ayre had modest goals for Bodog.com. He settled into a one-room apartment and launched a sports book that was federally licensed by the local government.

    "We were small back then. I can remember sitting down here and watching the first bet come in for $15," said Ayre, 44.

    "I thought, 'This is a good idea. I'll get to live in the tropics and when the dust all settles, I'll have a couple million dollars.' That's not even a good month for me any more. Bodog has killed my expectations, turning into more than I ever even contemplated."

    The projected sports book handle for Bodog this year is $1.2 billion. That figure does not include the casino and poker rooms, which will help push the projected handle to $6 billion.

    Ayre said the company's marketing budget is $50 million, and he said Bodog has grown from having about 1,000 accounts the first two years to more than 30,000 accounts.

    Bodog is not even one of the sports books that caters to major players. It is known as a book that courts squares, or novice bettors, and expects at least a 5 percent hold. The company fact sheet states its average sports book wager is $68.

    "Our target market is recreational bettors, but that doesn't mean we expel the wise guys," Ayre said. "A big bet for us is maybe $10,000."

    Books such as CRIS, Hollywood, Millennium, Olympic and Pinnacle, which offer higher limits and are estimated to double or triple Bodog's sports handle, are bigger-volume businesses that expect a smaller win percentage of 1 to 2 percent.

    "We're doubling in size every year," Ayre said. "On the growth curve we are at right now, we will by ourselves be bigger than the state of Nevada in sports betting."

    Nevada sports books are more strictly regulated than the offshore industry, where anything goes and every type of wager is offered. Bodog can post proposition bets on United States presidential races, reality TV shows and celebrity trials, for example.

    "I actually think regulation is bad. An unregulated market creates competition at its highest levels, which means innovation, which is a good thing for the players," Ayre said.

    "I don't think the Las Vegas books are really significant to us anymore. I know we don't look at them, but I suspect they pay a lot of attention to us."

    There was more of a risk betting offshore in the mid-to-late 1990s, as several books disappeared and left people empty handed. Ayre said the "rip-off joints" have been snuffed out by the most powerful companies.

    "People know they're going to get paid," he said, "and they don't give that a second thought anymore."

    If you want to read the other sections, you can find them here: http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/...ntentID=153385
  • StraitShooter
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-22-09
    • 10464

    #2
    between your facebook chuckle thread and now this bodog beckasoid thread your contributions to the forum overwhelm me..Very nice piece cheri!..what time is it in the outback right now?.Its 816 am in miami and I have not gone to bed yet..getting ready for la Liga Primier Der Englaterra West ham and BlackBurn Rovers followed by a healthy slate of sports today

    If I was Calvin..I would steal you from sbr and make you my next bodog beckasauras
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    • shari91
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-23-10
      • 32661

      #3
      Ah, you're a sweetheart Strait.

      It's almost 10:30pm here on Saturday night. All is finally quiet - and clean! - in my house, have some cupcakes baking for tomorrow and am just catching up on some me time, whilst keeping an eye on the tennis. Hope all is well! xo
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      • ApricotSinner32
        Restricted User
        • 11-28-10
        • 10648

        #4
        Originally posted by StraitShooter
        between your facebook chuckle thread and now this bodog beckasoid thread your contributions to the forum overwhelm me..Very nice piece cheri!..what time is it in the outback right now?.Its 816 am in miami and I have not gone to bed yet..getting ready for la Liga Primier Der Englaterra West ham and BlackBurn Rovers followed by a healthy slate of sports today

        If I was Calvin..I would steal you from sbr and make you my next bodog beckasauras
        We call this kissing ass. You are now subject to an infraction/milk weed whipping.
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        • doublej95
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-26-10
          • 14094

          #5
          since they are doing so well they should invest in a mobile website.
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          • cankid
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-22-08
            • 7223

            #6
            good read thx
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            • StraitShooter
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-22-09
              • 10464

              #7
              Originally posted by ApricotSinner32


              We call this kissing ass. You are now subject to an infraction/milk weed whipping.
              Hurry go steal your sisters drivers license while shes sleeping young patrick...shes the only one in your family tree you havent buried at credit wagering yet
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              • ApricotSinner32
                Restricted User
                • 11-28-10
                • 10648

                #8
                Originally posted by StraitShooter

                Hurry go steal your sisters drivers license while shes sleeping young patrick...shes the only one in your family tree you havent buried at credit wagering yet
                I like this post a lot better.
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                • StraitShooter
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-22-09
                  • 10464

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                  I like this post a lot better.
                  My best friend's drivers license picture is on that site..funny thing is he has never made a bet in his life
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                  • mycon
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 04-13-11
                    • 29

                    #10
                    Originally posted by doublej95
                    since they are doing so well they should invest in a mobile website.
                    In general mobile websites aren't the future, they are the past. It's way more efficient to just design the website in a way that makes it comfortably viewable via mobile devices, too.
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                    • doublej95
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-26-10
                      • 14094

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mycon

                      In general mobile websites aren't the future, they are the past. It's way more efficient to just design the website in a way that makes it comfortably viewable via mobile devices, too.

                      ok sure. I know i would much rather use mobile sites on my Droid than use Bodogs normal site on it.
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                      • nosniboR11
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-02-08
                        • 10042

                        #12
                        copy and paste always a good tactic


                        bodog sucks
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                        • Otters27
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                          • 07-14-07
                          • 30759

                          #13
                          05 was a great year for online sportsbook users. great bonuses and easy payouts
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                          • ChuckyTheGoat
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 04-04-11
                            • 37428

                            #14
                            Props to Bodog. Knowing that you'll get paid = HUGE.
                            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                            • relaaxx
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-15-06
                              • 3281

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Otters27
                              05 was a great year for online sportsbook users. great bonuses and easy payouts

                              easy money----my memories of BODOG giving away money. bodog had 10% bonus,1 time roll, on all deposits. had accounts in my name and wife's name, they had no problem with this. you could deposit - withdraw on the same day. depsoit again and get another 10% bonus with 1 time roll. day in day out.
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                              • Kindred
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-09-08
                                • 2901

                                #16
                                you make me feel old, I was on covers back in the day when bodog first hit the scene.
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                                • beyondthebets
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 04-21-11
                                  • 15

                                  #17
                                  Anybody know the financials of other high-profile books?
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65084

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by shari91

                                    "I don't think the Las Vegas books are really significant to us anymore. I know we don't look at them, but I suspect they pay a lot of attention to us."
                                    Yea Calvin, Las Vegas books definitely pay attention to Bodog since its where the line originates. You have got to be fukkin kidding me.
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                                    • RogueScholar
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-05-07
                                      • 5082

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                      Hurry go steal your sisters drivers license while shes sleeping young patrick...shes the only one in your family tree you havent buried at credit wagering yet
                                      Patty's sister is getting married soon, so if he's smart he'll steal it to scan once before the marriage while she's still a Venditto, then again when she takes her husband's last name and gets a new ID. I bet CW wouldn't even notice that the ID number and DOB are the same if the picture is even a little different.
                                      Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                      90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                      • Jonno116
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 09-26-10
                                        • 63

                                        #20
                                        Bodog are a Joke! I have just got my stakes reduced dramatically and ive only been using them for a week!

                                        Have they a history of doing this?
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                                        • BrianLaverty
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-02-07
                                          • 2183

                                          #21
                                          Articles like this featuring Calvin are we people thought was the beginning of the downfall of the industry for Americans. Many felt that the US Government took it as Calvin spitting in there face... and then a year later, UIGEA was formed...

                                          If Calvin wouldn't have been so selfish and flossy, we wouildn't be in the shitty position that we are right now...
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                                          • gafl
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-07-06
                                            • 656

                                            #22
                                            Agree. Offshores have to stay under the radar. Bodog used to publicize their party in LV every year. Same with the poker sites. Too much media attention with their play for free sites. Maybe they'll finally learn.
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                                            • BrianLaverty
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-02-07
                                              • 2183

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by gafl
                                              Agree. Offshores have to stay under the radar. Bodog used to publicize their party in LV every year. Same with the poker sites. Too much media attention with their play for free sites. Maybe they'll finally learn.

                                              Yep...

                                              This is why books like Bet Jamaica, The Greek and Heritage who are way under the radar dont seem to be getting ANY heat on them..... while the loud sportsbooks that market all over the US like BetUS and Sportsbook are recieveing major heat.
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                                              • Extra Innings
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-26-10
                                                • 15058

                                                #24
                                                Great Thread Shari...thanks for sharing it with the forum.
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                                                • chrisharvard01
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 10-24-08
                                                  • 2943

                                                  #25
                                                  good read
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                                                  • ryanspeer2001
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-30-08
                                                    • 3149

                                                    #26
                                                    Good read. Makes me wish as well as everyone else that we had the nuggets to do the same back in the day.
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                                                    • gregm
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-14-11
                                                      • 3535

                                                      #27
                                                      Alot of people don't like bodog and Calvin Ayre but I read his Calvin Ayre site regularly and I love it. Bodog had way too much presence with his commercials a few years ago, but I like the direction he has taken personally with the new site, bodog becky has done a fantastic job, those great parties, and trying to focus on real news on his site with the egr,igaming updates, etc.

                                                      He has had some incredibly vulgar marketing in the past but I am very impressed over the last few years with his calvin ayre site

                                                      I know some people hate bodog's lines and he does have a rather slippery past, but he as least interesting. He has owned some pretty cool bachelor pads as well.

                                                      His pad in vancouver, http://www.luxist.com/2009/03/12/bod...te-of-the-day/

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                                                      • gregm
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-14-11
                                                        • 3535

                                                        #28
                                                        More of the Vancouver bachelor pad, I dont think he still lives there but I love Vancouver and what a space age bachelor pad

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                                                        • gregm
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-14-11
                                                          • 3535

                                                          #29
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                                                          • gregm
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-14-11
                                                            • 3535

                                                            #30
                                                            I sometimes wonder about his taste but I love the view. Where the magic happens I guess, that Scandinavian chair looks un-sittable , I know un-sittable is not a word, and that bed looks a little small to me. No menage a trois's, where do you and her eat pizza, etc.

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                                                            • gregm
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-14-11
                                                              • 3535

                                                              #31
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                                                              • gregm
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-14-11
                                                                • 3535

                                                                #32
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                                                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                                  • 28672

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I want to know how much BoDog paid to be in the PC GAME "Scarface"???? LOL In the entire game... there's BoDog Sh#$ everywhere! LOL
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                                                                  • onetrickpony
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                                    • 9434

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                                                    Ah, you're a sweetheart Strait. It's almost 10:30pm here on Saturday night. All is finally quiet - and clean! - in my house, have some cupcakes baking for tomorrow and am just catching up on some me time, whilst keeping an eye on the tennis. Hope all is well! xo
                                                                    there needs to be a kiss-ass emoticon
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                                                                    • shari91
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                                      • 32661

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by onetrickpony
                                                                      there needs to be a kiss-ass emoticon
                                                                      lol

                                                                      I cop so much grief on here that any time someone sends a kind word my way it's truly appreciated.

                                                                      greg: That place is beautiful. I can only imagine what he's living in now.
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