enough about pinnacle

[Hareeba!]

You need some serious talent to win at Pinnacle, BetFair, and/or Matchbook.

that doesn't make sense

if you can't win betting at the best odds available you can't win anywhere and shouldn't be doing it

[Hareeba!]

its $300 max per tennis match right?

how much is the minimum?

R U serious ?

[the_situation]

that doesn't make sense

if you can't win betting at the best odds available you can't win anywhere and shouldn't be doing it

[Stumpage]

Beyond Pinnacle, I would go with BetFair, Greek, and BetJamaica. I don't play at 5Dimes anymore, but I imagine they are still a very good out as well.....

[jcurro]

You need some serious talent to win at Pinnacle, BetFair, and/or Matchbook.

Why???

Just the same talent you need to win at any other sportsbook!

[Papabill]

we all know how excellent pinnacle is...

...no closing of accounts
...no account limitation
...fast payout
...best sportsbook according to most punters

now my question is, who is the next best sportsbook? or should i say, which are the top 3 books?

The best I have enjoyed over the years has been Matchbook,Sports Interaction & Pinnacle

Papabill

[Pareto]

@ Bettorjon

You write that you are from the Philippines. Are there any online gambling restrictions there?

I was in Thailand this winter and I couldnt access Betfair ( They had blocked the main site. I could still use Betfair Lite, but using that site is a pain in the ass ). I could still use Pinnacle, Matchbook and others.

Do they block any online gambling sites in the Philippines?

[vitalyo]

All you need pinny,sbobet ,betfair .

GL

[goblue12]

Low juice and high limits usually indicates a very efficient line set.

[Hareeba!]

Low juice and high limits usually indicates a very efficient line set.

so on that basis you reckon you're better off taking lower odds at another joint

[goblue12]

Or just bet whenever they don't have the best number on the board.

[Stefan]

Pinnacle updates the lines very fast, therefore it's difficult to find really good odds.

[Hareeba!]

Or just bet whenever they don't have the best number on the board.

As I said before you're not making any sense.
They very frequently have the best number for both sides (outside of the exchanges)

So this is what you'd do ? :
Find that Pinnacle is offering +125 about your fancy but don't bet there, go to some other joint and bet it at +115.

Yep, that should make you a long term winner but stupid me taking the Pinnacle odds will end up a loser

how can I have been so silly for so long?

[goblue12]

Bet the +120 at SIA / Bodog / BetEd / Stations / Caesars / Wynn / etc. when Pinnacle has +111/-120.

[bettorjon]

if you believe that you shouldn't be betting at all

dont get me wrong man.

what im trying to say is, i have my own system which i follow everytime i wager. i can win (also lose of course) in any game without very much knowledge at all.

maybe the talent here is the system i develop and follow but luck is also at my side coz ive been winning eventhough im betting blindly in some games

[bettorjon]

@ Bettorjon

You write that you are from the Philippines. Are there any online gambling restrictions there?

I was in Thailand this winter and I couldnt access Betfair ( They had blocked the main site. I could still use Betfair Lite, but using that site is a pain in the ass ). I could still use Pinnacle, Matchbook and others.

Do they block any online gambling sites in the Philippines?

i dont think that there are any online gaming restrictions here because first of, as ive said, we have our own online sportsbook.

i can access those betting exchanges anytime of the day.

sbobet, 188bet, and other asian bookies are blocked here. i think the main reason is that, the only online sportsbook that is located here in the philippines is run by asianlogic which i suppose also run those other asian bookies. if that is not the reason then i dont know why i cant access those asian sb.

[aliante]

i guess you have to be a resident of italy to wager right?

here in the philippines, we only have one online bookie. an excellent sportsbook but of course you have to be resident here to place bet.

Exactly. Need to be a resident as in Philippines.
Should be an investment for arbers to take residence in Italy, since there are tons of out of line odds.

[Hareeba!]

Bet the +120 at SIA / Bodog / BetEd / Stations / Caesars / Wynn / etc. when Pinnacle has +111/-120.

spoken like an arber

so how often does that happen ?

blue moons don't come around often enough for my liking

[Pareto]

i dont think that there are any online gaming restrictions here because first of, as ive said, we have our own online sportsbook.

i can access those betting exchanges anytime of the day.

sbobet, 188bet, and other asian bookies are blocked here. i think the main reason is that, the only online sportsbook that is located here in the philippines is run by asianlogic which i suppose also run those other asian bookies. if that is not the reason then i dont know why i cant access those asian sb.

Thanks for your reply. Maybe the philippines is the place I should go, when the winter in northern europe gets too cold.

[durito]

spoken like an arber

so how often does that happen ?

blue moons don't come around often enough for my liking

Nearly 5k bets so far this year for me

[Hareeba!]

Nearly 5k bets so far this year for me

are you saying that's 5,000 times this year you've found significantly better odds than Pinnacle (concurrently) at books (not exchanges) ?

on markets where Pinnacle is offering 10c or less lines ?

[Nittany Lion]

I wish Pinnacle accepted U.S. players, would love to play there.

[bettorjon]

Thanks for your reply. Maybe the philippines is the place I should go, when the winter in northern europe gets too cold.

definitely man. youll love it here.

send me a message when youre here. lets grab some drinks then destroy the bookies. LOL

[goblue12]

Arbers would be giving back their profits (long term) betting at Pinnacle, Matchbook, and BetFair.

Which is why I don't arb.

[gliblet]

Definitely 188Bet over Pinnacle. Pinnacle often has long periods (up to minutes) where there are no odds available, even on big games, unless I'm using the site wrong. I've tries dynamic lines so it can't be that.