Player vs VIP Sports, $77,500 winnings dispute

[cyberinvestor]

It says the player had a prevous NSF problem with VIP that was eventaully settled. How? Not a clue. But they let him continue to play. Also if what the player states about running the balance to 55K in two days he should have had time to make sure 1.5K was in the bank. I agree that that the player probably took a shot but you never know these days. Also the part about the player mentioning friends on radio show is pure BS and he is grasping for any leverage possible. Ok I will side with VIP as well and just make sure not to use ********** ***** and not to run my balance up past 20K.

I have a friend who had an NSF problem with Bookmaker. He went into the cashier one day and saw all the deposit options down. He inquired on the issue and they said an instant deposit bounced. He fixed the problem by making a second instant deposit to cover the bounce and provide him with some cash to play with. The second deposit went through and the issue was covered/settled. He could then bet at Bookmaker again. Perhaps this player settled their initial issue(s) with VIP the same way. My friend, just like this person, was able to continue betting with Bookmaker despite NSF problems because they were always fixed. All the books care about is they get paid and they know given the processors and accidents by the player that there can be issues and they will work with you. As a player you need to stay on top of things yourself and make sure instant deposits clear. If they don't clear then STOP BETTING and settle up immediately. Then keep a live chat record or email trail of everything you discussed and how it was settled. Then go back to betting. If you get complacent and don't watch your accounts and money in and out then it is 100% your fault.

You are right that I do not know exactly what happened. The circumstantial evidence I have is like many people on this thread I bet with VIP for years and have never had an issue. I have won large sums and never had a withdrawal problem. Their CS has always been helpful. The other bit of evidence is that for some reason this player did not supply all the information to Justin7. That says something to me. Also, we have heard this story before. Once a week in this very forum someone will come on and say Bookmaker stole $600,000 from me or Sportbook.com owes me $16,000. It sounds horrible and makes all of us players shake that something like that could happen to us but 9 times out of 10, someone at SBR reveals the real story which is the person had a ********** on a CC or an NSF instant deposit and then got lucky and won a lot of money before the payment bounced. All these sportsbooks have every right to void your winnings if you don't pay. Why should they pay you when you failed to pay them?

I can't remember the last time on this forum someone came in and said XYZ Sportsbook took my winnings because they said my deposit was NSF and the player had ZERO issues in the case. There is always something that isn't said or that comes out later unless you are betting with a low quality book which nobody on here should be. If you are betting with a low quality book then just like if you let an NSF happen on your instant deposit, there is only one person to blame and they are very easy to find. They will be at your mirror in the bathroom anytime you want to have a chat with them.

It is the responsibility of every player to have your business in order. It's always good to have a card that you use ONLY for gambling. It is good to have a bank account you use only for gambling. You should know the money in your bank account to the penny and always be sure to have at least $50 more in your account than you plan to deposit. Have an account just for gambling prevents small charges or deductions that you might forget (phone bill or a recurring deduction) don't cause you to go NSF or have charge issues. Everything in those accounts is gambling and you can easily keep track.