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  • boondoggle
    SBR MVP
    • 09-29-10
    • 3014

    #1
    sportsbook cash advice
    I am getting ready to buy some sportsbook cash with my points and am deciding between betphoenix, BetJamaica or 5dimes. Betphoenix is by far the cheapest and they have 8x rollover and something about winnings which I am not clear on. I like their mobile app but know nothing about them. Betjamaica does not offer reduced juice like betphoenix or 5dimes nor any NHL props. I would go with 5dimes but their sportsbook cash is a bit more expensive. I would appreciate any thoughts?
  • southpaw74
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-21-09
    • 7104

    #2
    I'm looking to do the same. going to buy freeplays or cash. I've used 5dimes and they are good and have the most variety of wagers around but the best bang for the points/buck is betphoenix. Any advice anyone has would help me as well. thanks
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    • boondoggle
      SBR MVP
      • 09-29-10
      • 3014

      #3
      I saw betphoenix as well but the $250 cash store states that 8x rollover is based off of your winnings from the $250?!? The other betphoenix cash items (not freeplays) do not. I will ask live chat and maybe get some clarification.
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      • Legions36
        SBR MVP
        • 12-17-10
        • 3032

        #4
        Id rather put my doe in 5dimes or betjamaica as betphoenix takes so long to pay out. Do cash bonus if u can.
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        • boondoggle
          SBR MVP
          • 09-29-10
          • 3014

          #5
          Thanks Legion36, I am doing cash bonus only and no freeplays.
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          • Legions36
            SBR MVP
            • 12-17-10
            • 3032

            #6
            Originally posted by boondoggle
            Thanks Legion36, I am doing cash bonus only and no freeplays.
            Thats what i would do, 5dimes is even better as the reduced juice so gl to u.
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            • southpaw74
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-21-09
              • 7104

              #7
              I do like that the 5dimes is only 5X rollover. They both say 1,000 max payout but who cares since you can just withdraw it and re-deposit cash if you want. It's 300 more points to go 5dimes rather than betphoenix for the $100 cash but with 3X less rollover it might be a better overall value.
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              • boondoggle
                SBR MVP
                • 09-29-10
                • 3014

                #8
                If you get the $250 betphoenix it is 700+ pts cheaper than 5dimes.
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                • southpaw74
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-21-09
                  • 7104

                  #9
                  Originally posted by boondoggle
                  If you get the $250 betphoenix it is 700+ pts cheaper than 5dimes.
                  I know...tough call though. Better book with less rollover in 5dimes or cheaper betphoenix? I may just go with the $100 since it's 1000 max cashout? Then see how it goes?
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                  • southpaw74
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-21-09
                    • 7104

                    #10
                    Hey boon, how did you get that many points anyway? Sportbook or casino?
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                    • Hareeba!
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                      • 07-01-06
                      • 37283

                      #11
                      Originally posted by boondoggle
                      Thanks Legion36, I am doing cash bonus only and no freeplays.

                      why would you choose the cash option over freeplay?
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                      • THEGREAT30
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-04-08
                        • 8970

                        #12
                        BetPhoenix pays, if you are okay with ** or ** you will get it in 3 days max, that is long for a ** or ** but they pay. BetJamaica is undoubtedly the best option as you can get any payment method in 3 days. I am just skeptical about using BetJamaica for freeplays because they have been my long time book. Finally, I ordered a Betphoenix play on Wednesday night and it is still not there. They used to get you these plays in a day or 2. Everything has slowed with books and SBR, so be aware of that.
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                        • boondoggle
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-29-10
                          • 3014

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                          why would you choose the cash option over freeplay?

                          I thought cash play was better than the freeplay? Is it not?
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                          • Hareeba!
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 07-01-06
                            • 37283

                            #14
                            Originally posted by boondoggle
                            I thought cash play was better than the freeplay? Is it not?
                            that depends on the value of the freeplay v the cash you can opt for

                            what are your options?

                            generally speaking I would expect to turn a $100 freeplay into $85 cash and not have to concern myself with a rollover obligation at high vig.
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                            • boondoggle
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-29-10
                              • 3014

                              #15
                              I can get a $250 freeplay for 1117 pts @betphoenix. It requires a 8x rollover on any winnings. I can get a $250 cash bonus for 2214 points and that also requires 8x rollover @betphoenix.
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 37283

                                #16
                                Originally posted by boondoggle
                                I can get a $250 freeplay for 1117 pts @betphoenix. It requires a 8x rollover on any winnings. I can get a $250 cash bonus for 2214 points and that also requires 8x rollover @betphoenix.
                                So the cash is nearly double the cost of the freeplay in points

                                I would generally not hesitate to take the freeplay on those terms

                                But I don't know BP.

                                Can you back dogs with the freeplay?

                                Can you bet three team parlays?
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                                • wquine
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-30-09
                                  • 2046

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by boondoggle
                                  I saw betphoenix as well but the $250 cash store states that 8x rollover is based off of your winnings from the $250?!? The other betphoenix cash items (not freeplays) do not. I will ask live chat and maybe get some clarification.

                                  hey boon did u ever clarify this? where did u read that?
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                                  • boondoggle
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-29-10
                                    • 3014

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                    So the cash is nearly double the cost of the freeplay in points I would generally not hesitate to take the freeplay on those terms But I don't know BP. Can you back dogs with the freeplay? Can you bet three team parlays?
                                    Here are the terms:

                                    Rollover (how many times an amount must be wagered): 8X (8 times) of the amount WON from the free-play.
                                    What this means: If you place your $250 Free Bet on an NFL parlay which pays out $500, you will need to put 8X the winnings ($4000) in action before being able to request a withdrawal. Rollover is counted by the lesser of the risk/win amount.
                                    Wagers that do not count toward the rollover: Moneylines wagers -200/+200 and parlays with more legs than 3 teams and teasers with more than two teams


                                    The only advantage to cash is that you get it back after making a winning bet.
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                                    • boondoggle
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-29-10
                                      • 3014

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by wquine
                                      hey boon did u ever clarify this? where did u read that?
                                      Here are terms for $250 cash play from betphoenix:

                                      Rollover (how many times an amount must be wagered): 8X (8 times) of the amount WON from the $250 bonus. What this means: 8 x $250 cash = $2000 in total risked bets
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                                      • Hareeba!
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 07-01-06
                                        • 37283

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by boondoggle
                                        Here are the terms:

                                        Rollover (how many times an amount must be wagered): 8X (8 times) of the amount WON from the free-play.
                                        What this means: If you place your $250 Free Bet on an NFL parlay which pays out $500, you will need to put 8X the winnings ($4000) in action before being able to request a withdrawal. Rollover is counted by the lesser of the risk/win amount.
                                        Wagers that do not count toward the rollover: Moneylines wagers -200/+200 and parlays with more legs than 3 teams and teasers with more than two teams


                                        The only advantage to cash is that you get it back after making a winning bet.
                                        Then it's a no-brainer.
                                        You can use either the losing dog or 3 team parlay strategy to turn your freeplay into cash
                                        The advantage of the losing dog strategy is that you have close to 100% cash value for your freeplay and no rollover at high vig to comply with. The risk is you get nothing should the dog win.
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                                        • onlooker
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 36572

                                          #21
                                          The $1000 max is not what you can cash out with the free cash, but is how much free cash you can purchase with points in one order. It is the books choice to allow more or less on future purchases from the SBRstore.
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                                          • boondoggle
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-29-10
                                            • 3014

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by southpaw74
                                            Hey boon, how did you get that many points anyway? Sportbook or casino?
                                            Poker. Hit a royal flush last night
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                                            • southpaw74
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-21-09
                                              • 7104

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by boondoggle
                                              Poker. Hit a royal flush last night
                                              Nice!! Congrats! Since you have enough points why not try the freeplays or cash at both betphoenix and 5dimes and see which one works best.
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                                              • southpaw74
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-21-09
                                                • 7104

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by onlooker
                                                The $1000 max is not what you can cash out with the free cash, but is how much free cash you can purchase with points in one order. It is the books choice to allow more or less on future purchases from the SBRstore.
                                                Thanks I didn't realize that!!
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                                                • MadTiger
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-19-09
                                                  • 2724

                                                  #25
                                                  5 Dimes

                                                  Five 10-cent pieces
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                                                  • blanda
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-18-09
                                                    • 728

                                                    #26
                                                    Best of luck, my friend!
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                                                    • TobiasFunke
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-12-09
                                                      • 1999

                                                      #27
                                                      I would go w/ 5 dimes...
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