Do Vegas spoortsbooks ban or lower limits like these shady offshore books do?

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  • Jerm3462
    SBR MVP
    • 11-09-09
    • 4454

    #1
    Do Vegas spoortsbooks ban or lower limits like these shady offshore books do?
    I've been reading a bunch of stories about offshore books bannings, or lowering peoples wagering limits to $1 and such.

    Do Vegas books do these things? (Just for winning)
  • Reload
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-23-08
    • 12249

    #2
    Got to be instances where they will limit or not take bets from some. That's why "beards" are needed to put bets in on behalf of others. And why guys like Fezzik need to where a disguise when they visit some properties.
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    • andywend
      SBR MVP
      • 05-20-07
      • 4805

      #3
      Vegas sportsbooks manage their own books, shady sportsbooks cant seem to do that so they manage their players by cutting limits.

      The only offshore sportsbooks that don't cut player limits are pinnacle, greek and bookmaker and they are the 3 best books by far in the offshore industry.

      Fezzik is a freak of nature and is one of a select few who can consistently beat the books betting the regular pre-game way. You've got to hand it to him.
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      • rm18
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-20-05
        • 22291

        #4
        I got banned from wagerchief and phoenix for winning at mania, now I cannot cash in my points for freeplays or enter a lot of the contests, and it delays me being an SBR Pro because I have to save up cash for Vegas.
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        • durito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-03-06
          • 13173

          #5
          Originally posted by andywend
          Vegas sportsbooks manage their own books, shady sportsbooks cant seem to do that so they manage their players by cutting limits.

          The only offshore sportsbooks that don't cut player limits are pinnacle, greek and bookmaker and they are the 3 best books by far in the offshore industry.

          Fezzik is a freak of nature and is one of a select few who can consistently beat the books betting the regular pre-game way. You've got to hand it to him.
          0/3.
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          • TomG
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-29-07
            • 500

            #6
            I like to think of a sharp wager as an act of violence directed at the sports book's bottom line. Be warned--most sports books (Vegas included) will react as such.
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            • wtf
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #7
              watch out the site SHILL durito is here to flog his scam book

              ignore this toad at all costs
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              • andywend
                SBR MVP
                • 05-20-07
                • 4805

                #8
                All 3 of my statements are accurate.

                -snip-

                Greetings to you WTF, hope all is well.
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #9
                  I was once limited to $5 on hockey at the Barbary Coast.........that's right, $5.00!
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                  • jackkkk2009
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-13-09
                    • 1183

                    #10
                    Most regular sportsbooks (R) will cut player's limits if they think their players won too much or have some strategies to win money from their books. some small sportsbooks even close big winning accounts. For those big sportsbooks (Like: thegreek, pinnacle, bookmaker, WSEX....Etc). they will likely cut their winning players' limits. But no guaranteer, just less chance. If you want to play at books without any limits cut, You have better join some exchange books (Like: matchook, betfair or ladbroke)...
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                    • andywend
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-20-07
                      • 4805

                      #11
                      I went on an incredible run at the Station Casinos having the Giants to win the NFC and SuperBowl, betting both the Phillies and Rays to win the NL/AL pennants and World Series and had the Rockies to win the NL Pennant the year before.

                      I had 7 major cashes and thought they might cut my limits but never did.

                      I don't see why Vegas books would cut a players limits as everyone has friends they can use to place their wagers for them.
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                      • BrigadierPudding
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 617

                        #12
                        Originally posted by andywend
                        All 3 of my statements are accurate.

                        Durito is well known to be quite the idiot and this forum would be a much better place if he didn't post here.

                        Greetings to you WTF, hope all is well.
                        Fezzik has never beaten the books consistently. That is patently untrue. He's won a few high profile handicapping contests but is a very mediocre pro otherwise. Anyone with any knowledge of Vegas is aware of this.

                        Don't believe everything Chad Millman tells you.
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                        • bswagos
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 07-27-10
                          • 442

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BrigadierPudding
                          Fezzik has never beaten the books consistently. That is patently untrue. He's won a few high profile handicapping contests but is a very mediocre pro otherwise. Anyone with any knowledge of Vegas is aware of this.

                          Don't believe everything Chad Millman tells you.
                          Fezzik even admits he is better at contests than straight bets. But I have to believe no matter what the rumor he can't be doing that badly outside the contests.
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                          • frankbettor
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 02-12-10
                            • 70

                            #14
                            The answer to your question is yes. I have had bets turned down at every major book in Las Vegas because I was a winning bettor. Solution? Hired help. Books don't want winning bettors--they don't factor into the plan of the business. Start winning and they will eventually show you the door. Always have a backup plan for when you start winning money at the Vegas books.
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                            • tkim8404
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-28-10
                              • 622

                              #15
                              Sounds like we have some sharp bettors on this forum. I wish I could be one of them myself.
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                              • andywend
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-20-07
                                • 4805

                                #16
                                Durito,
                                Since you decided to run and cry to Justin @ SBR over my "idiot" comment, I made sure to let him know about the following comment you made to another poster in this forum.

                                Apparently you can dish it out but you sure can't take it.

                                Since the truth should always set you free and my statement about you is definitely a truthful statement, perhaps Justin will lift my infraction or at the very least give you one for your comment.

                                Perhaps I simply forgot to use an expletive but I'll try and remember to do so the next time.

                                Your post #26 in the following thread:

                                08-05-10, 01:47 PM #26 durito
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                                • Santo
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                                  • 09-08-05
                                  • 2957

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jackkkk2009
                                  Most regular sportsbooks (R) will cut player's limits if they think their players won too much or have some strategies to win money from their books. some small sportsbooks even close big winning accounts. For those big sportsbooks (Like: thegreek, pinnacle, bookmaker, WSEX....Etc). they will likely cut their winning players' limits. But no guaranteer, just less chance. If you want to play at books without any limits cut, You have better join some exchange books (Like: matchook, betfair or ladbroke)...
                                  Ladbrokes don't belong in that company at all.
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                                  • tblues2005
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-30-06
                                    • 9235

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by frankbettor
                                    The answer to your question is yes. I have had bets turned down at every major book in Las Vegas because I was a winning bettor. Solution? Hired help. Books don't want winning bettors--they don't factor into the plan of the business. Start winning and they will eventually show you the door. Always have a backup plan for when you start winning money at the Vegas books.
                                    I agree with you totally. If you win too much that is. Just try to stay hidden by doing lower bets and multiple places and that will work I would think.
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                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-12-07
                                      • 12144

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by andywend
                                      I went on an incredible run at the Station Casinos having the Giants to win the NFC and SuperBowl, betting both the Phillies and Rays to win the NL/AL pennants and World Series and had the Rockies to win the NL Pennant the year before.

                                      I had 7 major cashes and thought they might cut my limits but never did.

                                      I don't see why Vegas books would cut a players limits as everyone has friends they can use to place their wagers for them.
                                      You thought Stations were going to "limit" you for winning a few futures bets? LOL.

                                      P.S. - Stations doesn't limit you. They 86 you.

                                      P.P.S - Durito was right.
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                                      • soli
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-10-06
                                        • 2503

                                        #20
                                        I've never heard of a Vegas Sportsbook lowering the limit of a player.
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by soli
                                          I've never heard of a Vegas Sportsbook lowering the limit of a player.
                                          Having worked on both sides of the counter for 18 years in Vegas......I can positively assure you they do.
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                                          • Emily_Haines
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-14-09
                                            • 15917

                                            #22
                                            [quote=andywend;5931799]Durito,
                                            Since you decided to run and cry to Justin @ SBR over my "idiot" comment, I made sure to let him know about the following comment you made to another poster in this forum.

                                            Apparently you can dish it out but you sure can't take it.

                                            Since the truth should always set you free and my statement about you is definitely a truthful statement, perhaps Justin will lift my infraction or at the very least give you one for your comment.

                                            Perhaps I simply forgot to use an expletive but I'll try and remember to do so the next time.
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                                            • Waz
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 12-25-08
                                              • 262

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                                              Having worked on both sides of the counter for 18 years in Vegas......I can positively assure you they do.
                                              How do the casinos track this if you don't show a players card or show ID when you place your bets? Do they require this for bets sometimes, because I have never been asked to show anything despite some larger wagers.
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                                              • durito
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-03-06
                                                • 13173

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by wtf
                                                watch out the site SHILL durito is here to flog his scam book

                                                ignore this toad at all costs
                                                Which book again is that I am a shill for?
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  [QUOTE=andywend;5931799]Durito,
                                                  Since you decided to run and cry to Justin @ SBR over my "idiot" comment, I made sure to let him know about the following comment you made to another poster in this forum.

                                                  Apparently you can dish it out but you sure can't take it.

                                                  Since the truth should always set you free and my statement about you is definitely a truthful statement, perhaps Justin will lift my infraction or at the very least give you one for your comment.

                                                  Perhaps I simply forgot to use an expletive but I'll try and remember to do so the next time.

                                                  Your post #26 in the following thread:
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                                                  • Fishhead
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                    • 40179

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Waz
                                                    How do the casinos track this if you don't show a players card or show ID when you place your bets? Do they require this for bets sometimes, because I have never been asked to show anything despite some larger wagers.


                                                    They don't need to track you............they know "FACES".
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                                                    • andywend
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-20-07
                                                      • 4805

                                                      #27
                                                      You thought Stations were going to "limit" you for winning a few futures bets? LOL.
                                                      P.S. - Stations doesn't limit you. They 86 you.
                                                      Monkey, unlike you, I don't gamble for pennies.

                                                      Your claim that Stations will not allow you in the building if you win too much is so ridiculous, that I won't waste my time setting you straight.

                                                      Emily, a nice little reminder of a game I really enjoyed:
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                                                      • excel
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 03-25-10
                                                        • 4270

                                                        #28
                                                        How can I apply to be someones beard?
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                                                        • Paul Kersey
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 05-04-10
                                                          • 38

                                                          #29
                                                          Any more evidence needed?

                                                          Doesn't this question PROVE why online gambling needs to be regulated and legalized? A Harrah's or MGM would be advertising & taking pics to invite the majority of stiffs to come on over. Public corporations and true marketing firms understand these principles. One Moby Dick story invites 1000 flounders.
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                                                          • Maxmillion
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-18-10
                                                            • 2642

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                            I was once limited to $5 on hockey at the Barbary Coast.........that's right, $5.00!
                                                            I didnt even know they had a book there

                                                            I wish I won enough that I could get banned
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                                                            • thebestthereis
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-01-09
                                                              • 11459

                                                              #31
                                                              it's called bill's gambling hall & saloon, they even have a hot dog cart
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                                                              • rise
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 03-01-09
                                                                • 372

                                                                #32
                                                                do they still have big elvis there?
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                                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                                  • 12144

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by andywend
                                                                  Monkey, unlike you, I don't gamble for pennies.

                                                                  Your claim that Stations will not allow you in the building if you win too much is so ridiculous, that I won't waste my time setting you straight.

                                                                  Emily, a nice little reminder of a game I really enjoyed:
                                                                  Phoenix 25 17 19 8 69
                                                                  New York « 33 28 26 20 107
                                                                  86'ing you from the book and 86'ing you from the casino are two seperate things, genius.
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                                                                  • Fishhead
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                                    • 40179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Some nice internet wars emerging here.......I like it.
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                                                                    • thisisit
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-01-10
                                                                      • 733

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                      I was once limited to $5 on hockey at the Barbary Coast.........that's right, $5.00!
                                                                      and why were you betting there? is there something special about that place that i have never heard of?
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